[Closed] "Muslim" terrorists attack French magazine in Paris

your insistence that all violent action is terrorism

So, help us out - define "terrorism". You can illustrate your answer by reference to Nelson Mandela, the Nicaraguan Contras, LEHI and the Stern Gang, the French Resistance, IRA, US War of Independence, etc etc etc

hels - Member
Has the chewkw character been written out of this thread already ?

Someone got to work for a living you know ... 🙄
Written out of this thread? Nahhh ... just don't have the time to response.
So what's up? What's your argument or as they say what's your beef? 😆

squirrelking - Member
If you ignore him he goes away like most lunatics.

Like most zombie maggots he (squirrelking) is exactly like my communist grandfather who could only see one dimension. However, this zombie moggot(squirrelking) has the tendency to blame the politician and constantly try to score points even when event happened in other places. He hates anything and everything resembling centre right to right because to him they are all enemies. If he is in the army he would gladly shoot his own in the back. What he does not realise is he and the extreme right are merely the different side of the same coin. They cannot live without each other. They could be husband and husband. 🙄

Back to the thread, anyone mentioned the Southern Philippines? Go there get your head off perhaps? Whatever you think that the South is doing right then you are wrong. They have tried to annex us since the late 60s and local politicians are leeching the whole place dry in preparation for eventual annexation. If you sympathies with the rebels then you are condemning the entire natives of N. Borneo to demise. I on the other hand is already in GeordieLand but I fear for the natives there.

Also the so called Ghandi's "an eye for an eye thing ..." FFS! Sometimes you just have to eradicate the whole problem no matter how long it takes once and for all. Yes, both sides will have losses but isn't zombie maggots in this world suppose to do so? Otherwise, the world will be too populated? Even if the world population depletes by half it will regenerate in no time.

As for the AK47 I hope they are permanently confined "Papillon" style system in total isolation.

🙄

wrecker

What do we reckon, will they be zipped up and carried out or dragged out?
Considering they zapped two coppers, I'm going with the zip and carry option.

They'll just disappear them. Apparently disappearing Islamic fundamentalists is the key to eradicating them.

even two cops down, the gendarmes will realise that the world is watching closely, from both sides.

so i will go for dragged kicking/screaming

would anyone be surprised if they died in custody tho'

They'll just disappear them. Apparently disappearing Islamic fundamentalists is the key to eradicating them.

it really doesn't matter what started the fire, the really important thing is to put it out!

hmm do you think the french will try the israeli tactic of cramming all the muslims into a giant concentration camp, put big walls around them, restrict their food, power, sanitation etc?

[i]I haven't seen any divine intervention from the mods[/i]

they work in mysterious ways that aren't always immediately obvious.

jimjam - Member
They'll just disappear them. Apparently disappearing Islamic fundamentalists is the key to eradicating them.

Don't care what they do to them but torturing would be good ...

😀

Couldn't think of a way to respond to that, given that it's chewkw. Advocating torture. I very nearly....

Um, no. Not yet. Not quite. Let's see how much rope gets used.

Couldn't think of a way to respond to that, given that it's chewkw

The same way you would to any other pantomime dame?

Good thread so far, lots of differing views,

this freedom of speech thing has a lot going for it.

Bravo to that.

I don't have the time or the intellect to get into an online debate with you lot , but many interesting & thought provoking comments on here .It's even sparked debate in our work tearoom - mistake - they are all now definitely voting ukip. 🙂

back to the op. I hope the fascist cowards responsible for the attack don't get the martyrdom that they think's coming to them....

Mr Woppit - Member

Couldn't think of a way to respond to that, given that it's chewkw. Advocating torture. I very nearly....

Um, no. Not yet. Not quite. Let's see how much rope gets used.

Well, it's an alternative to all your suggestion and I am just pointing out to one option amongst many.

What's yours then? What would you do to the AK47 shooters?

lemonysam - Member
The same way you would to any other pantomime dame?

Drama queen ^^^ ... 😆

I hope the fascist cowards responsible for the attack don't get the martyrdom that they think's coming to them.

Problem is, this outcome is unlikely when two fruit loops armed with AK-47s are slowly backed into a corner.

Like you know a fraction of things these types get up to....

You are right. We only get to see the trivial stuff like guantanamo bay and reports on water boarding and the like.

You can have as many "special forces" or Drones or whatever, the problem has not only not gone away, its got worse.

They'll just disappear them. Apparently disappearing Islamic fundamentalists is the key to eradicating them.

I don't know, however many you kill thinking this is the way to eradicate them, they have god on their side, and a belief they will get to heaven, either when they are killed, or take part in a suicide bombing. Its a powerful thing belief, so good luck in trying to kill them, because there will be more to replace them.

 

What's yours then? What would you do to the AK47 shooters?

I refer you to my answer already given on page 2.

Or we could just engage in a list of hysterical gibberish about AK47's and sticking things under toenails...

[img] [/img]

You are right. We only get to see the trivial stuff like guantanamo bay and reports on water boarding and the like.

Mr Woppit - Member

What's yours then? What would you do to the AK47 shooters?

I refer you to my answer already given on page 2.

Or we could just engage in a list of hysterical gibberish about AK47's and sticking things under toenails...

Ahhh ... I see (page 2) ... but you have no god on your side. They have.

For these condemn people I think some of their organs should be harvested before they are damaged. Scientifically this makes sense.

However, so long as I don't have to feed them (via tax etc) I am fine. I rather have my tax paid to help shelter animals or good people in need of financial help. Definition: Good people = Not Zombie Maggots.

Oh well. I did try.

Anybody? 🙄

Oh ya ... these two AK47 shooters will now, if they plan it right, draw as many law enforcement agents as close to them as possible before they detonate a huge suicide belt on them. Your human court has no field day I am afraid.

Thus, meeting their "maker" while taking many with them ...

When they reach their destination where they expect virgins ... these shooters will be the virgins themselves to be savage by whoever are waiting for them on the other side. 😆 They ARE the virgins.

Nothing to do with US or UK SF. Mossad are a different kettle of fish admittedly. My point is that none of us here can say if these guys are effective or not as we have no clue what they get up to. All I know is that they are very, very busy.

They aren't. Israel targets and kills the leadership of hezbollah, Some commanders of IS have been targeted by the US...and on and on. They just get replaced.

Bin laden is killed, makes no difference. In fact the only thing that seems to be killing Al Qaeda is IS. Their message is being drowned out by a plethora of other terrorist organisations.

The west killed a huge amount of Taliban, but there they still are. It doesn't matter whether you target the leaders or the followers.

You need to Kill the message, not the people.

Anybody?

All yours Woppit.

El-bent - Member

Bin laden is killed, makes no difference. In fact the only thing that seems to be killing Al Qaeda is IS. Their message is being drowned out by a plethora of other terrorist organisations.

Pui ! Pui ! Pui ! What new is there?

Look at the event in communist China during the Cultural Revolution ...

Dear Leader Mao could only survive because he adopted the more extreme version of communism. He could have been toppled had he not adopt the extreme version. As a result, people follow the extreme version and 26 million of them perished.

In this case Al-Queda was replaced by a more extreme version of their own belief system. i.e. "I am purer than you" sort of ideology ...

Obviously, now you are saying perhaps Al-Queda can be negotiated with.

🙄

Saw this linked to on Vice News today. Created by a Somali in Minnesota in response to Jihadist recruiting there. Interesting.

[url= http://www.averagemohamed.com/ ]Average Mohamed[/url]

They aren't.

You need to Kill the message, not the people.

wrecker - Member
And how do you propose they do that?

Ya, how? 😀

They certainly are, so long as they are fed accurate intelligence.

Right. Here's a little snippet from my previous post you don't seem to understand.

They just get replaced.

Obviously, now you are saying perhaps Al-Queda can be negotiated with.

I think you have been drinking too much Newcastle Brown ale...

Would incidents like this be a factor?

[img] [/img]

You need to Kill the message, not the people.

Burn some Quran's maybe?

I don't think it's the responsibility of any "Black Ops" military to get involved in killing the message. That's much too sensible. They're too busy trying to chop the heads off the Hydra.

The message will be killed by it's opponents engaging in the debate - something made possible by the old "Free Speech" thingy.

Like Average Mohamed and his videos, for instance.

Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, Raif Badawi will tomorrow receive the first public flogging of his sentence of 1000 lashes for 'insulting Mohammed'. 50 lashes a day followed by 10 years in prison. Good old 'religion of peace' 😥
[url= http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-activist-raif-badawis-1000-lashes-public-flogging-commence-after-friday-prayers-1482540 ]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-activist-raif-badawis-1000-lashes-public-flogging-commence-after-friday-prayers-1482540[/url]

They just get replaced.

El-bent - Member
I think you have been drinking too much Newcastle Brown ale...

What's your solution then?

(A little bird told just whispered to me that the following suggestions will appear - re-education, have a public discussion, respect them, sit down and negotiate with their "leaders" or worst case scenario let them be ... 😯 )

Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, Raif Badawi will tomorrow receive the first public flogging of his sentence of 1000 lashes for 'insulting Mohammed'. 50 lashes a day followed by 10 years in prison.

Is that the same Saudi Arabia who is the UK's no.1 customer for the arms trade?

The Arms Trade that Prince Andrew encourages?

Perhaps it's the same Saudi Arabia that has the 2nd largest stake in Newscorp after the Murdoch Family?

Something a bit smelly in all of this...

Suspects robbed a petrol station (and apparently heading back towards Paris), I assume they will cut off each others hands for that.

Jenuine lol at that 😉

Also great contribution from Jivehoneyjive - lolled at that too!

Thing is - we can have alively debate on here - but you can't debate with a fanatic I'm afraid, fanatics don't have a sense of humour!!!

Anyway - I'm going to bake a cake - !!! 😀

I've noticed that despite many threats of massive attacks against "The West" over the past few years by this shouty idiot, nothing actually seems to have happened... Something effective must be going on.

[img] [/img]

Mr Woppit - Member

I've noticed that despite many threats of massive attacks against "The West" over the past few years by this shouty idiot, nothing actually seems to have happened... Something effective must be going on.

It will happen when you least expect them to. It will happen. Just a matter of time.

🙄

edit: that picture ... he got a nice gun and I think that is an AK47 with grande launcher or a torchlight.

And how do you propose they do that?

How long have you got? Its going to take a lot longer than a quick fix solution of shooting/bombing them.

Here's your starter for ten:

Is that the same Saudi Arabia who is the UK's no.1 customer for the arms trade?

It starts with our attitudes and interests.

The message will be killed by it's opponents engaging in the debate - something made possible by the old "Free Speech" thingy.

The message won't be killed off by magazines posting inflammatory material in the quest for free speech. We have to be a hell of a lot more subtle than that.

El-bent - Member
How long have you got? Its going to take a lot longer than a quick fix solution of shooting/bombing them.

In the meantime, they continue to expand while you decide on the next course of action or plan.

Here's your starter for ten:

Is that the same Saudi Arabia who is the UK's no.1 customer for the arms trade?

It starts with our attitudes and interests.

Arms trade don't kill, people do.

Assuming you don't sell to S.Arabia does that mean their expanding ideology will cease? Bear in mind, they are a branch, albeit the newest, of Abrahamic faith and like the belief of your forefather is based on expansionism. Do you think they will stop?

What you say?

🙄

It's all a bit chicken and egg:

arms trade can't survive without conflict

conflict can't survive without arms trade

Hmm, wonder what would happen if sanctions on arms trade were in place...

(apart from a lot of grumpy faces in Carlyle Group, Halliburton and all the contractors orbiting the industry which by some coincidence generally benefit those who started the wars in the 1st place)

As I was saying...

[url= http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/this-is-what-jon-stewart-has-to-say-about-the-charlie-hebdo-massacre--g1U9zLZYqe ]Keep calm and carry on[/url]

It starts with our attitudes and interests.

So many PhDs on STW yet none can come up with viable answers. 🙄

You lot sucks! You have not applied your positivist mindset consistently.

Highly illogical in the so called "logical" mind ... 😆

Mr Woppit - Member

As I was saying...

Keep calm and carry on

Now you are referring to media as your answer?

C'mon you can do better than that. 😯

Pretty much the only intelligent thing I've read about this:

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/blowback-paris-1534074535

Interesting point here too:

Why should freedom of speech not apply to their freedom to merely practice and express their religious faith? It is here, in the powerlessness to challenge the encroachment on religious freedoms under the French brand of secularism, fuelled by the grievances about ongoing wars in the Muslim world, that vulnerability to radicalisation begins. If we uphold the freedom of speech of Charlie Hebdo to mock religion, and we must, should we not question the withdrawal of this elementary right to France’s Muslims?

Guns don't kill people....

al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb ([b]AQIM[/b])