[Closed] MP claims homeopathy can cure Autism.

On the bright side, with a bit of luck the anti-vaccination brigade might get wind of it.

Perhaps he could try it for a severe kick in the face....

The homeopathy mob are good at trawling obscure forums looking for threads to spout on.

I wonder if we could get a few on here - just repeat 'homeopathy is fraud' three times and they may appear!

The main story goes to show that crystal-botherers can come from all strands of society. Credulous half-wits are everywhere.

Wonder if homeopathy is any good for treating ignorance?

Some [s]muppets[/s] crystal-botherers earlier

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Repeat homeopathy is fraud three times, then tap it on some wood.

DrP

Surely the less funding and attention homeopathy gets, the more effective it should be?

[i]Surely the less funding and attention homeopathy gets, the more effective it should be? [/i]

I've always thought the same about homeopathy practitioners.

Just one of them ought to be able to treat the entire population very effectively?

Repeat homeopathy is fraud three times, then tap it on some wood.

Preferably oak, with mistletoe previously blessed by a druid.

Preferably oak, with mistletoe previously blessed by a druid.

Only on Tuesdays, bless it on a Thursday and you old man will shrivel up and fall off.

Too late 😳

jam bo - excellent.

The speaker's response:
“...but I make the general point that it is always important for us to base our decisions and expenditure on evidence”.

That was the minister's response. The speaker is far too much of an idiot to find such an elegant paraphrase for 'what a load of bollocks!'

Ah. I stand corrected.

This forum thread is way bigger than necessary. A single post on the matter in another much larger thread would have sufficed.

Its difficult not to be wound up by these superstitious idiots

I mean what are we living in, the ****ing dark ages?

When they trolled the Below the Line comments of some obscure local rag were they using homeopathic electrons in their laptops?

Do they drive crystal powered cars?

Do they use astral projection to go on holiday?

NO because none of that mumbo jumbo has any practical use in the real world yet despite this obvious non sequitor they are willing to believe a lot of superstitious nonsense when it comes to medicine

****ing idiots the lot of them

midlifecrashes - Member

This forum thread is way bigger than necessary. A single post on the matter in another much larger thread would have sufficed.

Boooooom!

Homeopathy is fraud.
Homeopathy is fraud.
Homeopathy is fraud.

[url= http://www.homeopathicmoney.com/article1-How-to-Make-Homeopathic-Money-at-home ]Pay for it with this...[/url]

My mum believes in homeopathy. I can deal with folk having their own beliefs etc.. Its hard to bite my tongue when she goes on about it. I think its a load of old bollocks.

I've placed a single pixel of each letter of what was going to be a very long post across 1,500,000 separate web pages.

It's the only way to get my point across and I hope it makes interesting reading.

^very good 🙂

Homeopathy is fraud.
Homeopathy is fraud.
Homeopathy is fraud.

I wonder how little oxygen these fraudsters can survive on.

I believe you have to keep diluting the phrase until there are no letters left for it to work

Homeopathy is Fraud
H m e p t y s r u
H e t s u
H t u
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There, that should do it.

Anyone remember the Horizon homeopathic pharmacology experiment?

I went to school in Hinckley but escaped.
I believe the mp in question represents my sister in our wonderful democracy.
She is going to dilute her vote one million times then on voting day single handedly vote in the green candidate.

www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/

It's just as effective as any other placebo but I don't think there's much argument for a placebo in autism treatment. I figure people can do whatever daft thing to themselves they want but the boy's an MP, talking about a subject where quite reasonably there are parents waiting for any straw they can grab, we should throw him in a volcano as I'm pretty sure that'll appease the elder gods that cause autism.

there are parents waiting for any straw they can grab

It's not just the parents either, those with the condition but classed as "higher functioning" are also often looking for a solution and will often struggle to rationalise this kind of mis-information.

I'm increasingly tired of people proposing "cures" for autism. It's not an illness, it's a state of being. What do people expect, a bit of super diluted elf piss is going to turn someone with profound autism, who has made little social developmental progress since being a toddler, into a person with fully developed social and learning skills...
There is more that needs curing in the people that propose this sort of nonsense than anyone who has autism.

Interesting that Ben Goldacre was on Newsnight last night talking about evidence-based politics.

My mum's very interested in thi story. She lives in the village where the PhD in autism lady lives and is a retired special school teacher, having taught at the special school in Hinckley. When she worked there apparently Mr trendywig as she calls him used to visit. Not got a good thing to say for him.
She sent me a link to a story in the same local rag about the autistic boy referred to in the piece in the OP
He is doing very well despite no homeopathic cures having being administered...
[url= http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/deep-sea-creatures-hold-key-6032322#ICID=sharebar_email ]more hinckley times gold[/url]

He is also keen on astronomy too:
[url= http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28464009 ]or is it astrology, i get confused[/url]

From the comments on the last bbc article:

From the Big Bang Theory: (tv show)
Penny: I'm a Sagittarius, which probably tells you way more than you need to know.
Sheldon: Yes - it tells us that you participate in the mass cultural delusion that the sun's apparent position relative to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality.
Still, it could be worse, he could believe homeopathy is real.

I'm increasingly tired of people proposing "cures" for autism.

There's two separate issues in this story, isn't there.

1) is the suggestion that autism can or indeed should be cured, certainly for those lower on the spectrum. The world would be a very different place if Aspies were the majority; being neurotypical would probably be treated as a learning disorder.

2) is the suggestion that Homeopathy can cure anything (beyond placebo). The Autism thing is an eye-catching headline, but it's in danger of diluting (sorry) the real story which is that an MP is pushing to waste tons of time and money promoting this pish under the NHS.

Sorry Cougar, got so wound up by the Autism stuff I totally forgot to add how thoroughly ridiculous it is that homeopathy not only exists in our society, but that it is debated in parliament and public money spent on it. 👿

Oh, no apology needed, fume away! (-:

unfortunately, there are a lot of people demanding treatment for more or less imaginary ailments.

homeopathy is a cheap and safe way of sending these [s]cretins[/s] mis-guided folk away happy, and occasionally even 'cured'.

yes, we could stop spending money on homeopathy, but i wouldn't be surprised if it ended up costing us more* in the long run.

(*increased spending on actual medicines and treatments, both for the original [i]illness[/i], and the side-effects of un-controlled *alternative* treatment)

i'd be very happy to find out this wouldn't happen, and that we can stop spending millions funding NHS quackery.

Crystal botherers! 😀
I fix punctures using homeopathy. I grind up a thorn, mix it into a swimming pool of water and add a drop through the valve hole. Works every time.

Trendywig's wiki page is a good read.
In summary:
Eton, Oxford, Mba abroad, military, series of short lived well paid jobs in industry (imagine working with him, no wonder he didn't make it) then natural home as Tory politician. Cash for questions, etc etc all present and correct.
And yes I was right he was mp when I was still at school in Hinckley . Been representing the lucky people of Hinckley and bosworth since 1987....

Awhiles, I have some sympathy with your position, we do over medicalise what aren't medical problems at all.
Social issues-debt, poor housing, domestic violence, family breakdown, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, childhood abuse, executive stress, status anxiety, etc all conspire to present people with problems that aren't diseases in the medical sense. Society's solution is to send them to see me, the GP.
My preferred solution would be to look at the cause of their problems rather than support an industry whose main method of operation is to hoodwink people into believing that the can be cured by quackery.
And yesterday I gave the parents of a troubled kid a leaflet for a (non nhs) provider of alternative therapies, relaxation, reiki etc, because there is nothing else I can do about the fact that dad left 4 years ago and doesn't send a card at birthdays etc.
so yes it's a problem.

docrobster - Member

Awhiles, I have some sympathy with your position,

i was just offering an alternative* viewpoint which i understand to have some merit. My position is that anyone asking for NHS-funded homeopathy should be instructed to jump down the nearest well. But then compassion is not one of my strong points.

(*see what i did there?)