And so were thousands of other bands. What's your point?
funny thread - if you cant see the humour in his songs (some of them at least) then the smiths are wasted on you
i expect he says these things about politics for the exact reason you are all moaning about - to be controversial and to cause people to question him and his views, he likes to be outspoken and he likes the controversy of saying what he feels, his songs/lyrics thrive off this
he has cult status because at the time the smiths were one off band, they were not a run of the mill carbon copy of somebody thats done it before, they certainly helped along with joy division create a proper indie scene in and around manchester, they were a one off band at the time they created a sound that hadnt been done before, or at least hadnt become popular, he was an eccentric character whom people often and still do question his sexuality, yet in typical morrisey style hes never let on, nor does he care what people think of him....
and who said the smiths arent jangly?!?!!?! are you deaf? jonny marr created a new type of sound with the smiths, his riffs were highly noticeable and very original....
they were infact a very original band, i cannot imagine just how many bands (decent or otherwise) have been influenced by them....sad yet funny songs, clever, great music accompanied by passionate meaningful lyrics...
he may come across as a bellend to some, but i like the fact he speaks his mind, hes done what a lot of folk would like to do and left the uk as he simply got depressed with the way its run and people running it....
to me his a hero, obviously that comes across in my defence of him here, but his music is up there with best bands of all time to me....
of course its horses for courses, and depends what music you are into, but hes very talented and one of the best peotic musicians that has ever graced england...
long live the moz
Ah, so they are an elitist in joke then? 🙂
Cant understand all the absurd Morrissey fanbois adoration-they used to make death threats to Mike Joyce in the court case FFS
He's our Elvis.
very talented and one of the best peotic musicians that has ever graced england...
Is he a talented musician tho? A bit pedantic maybe but he is definitley on a downward spiral All of his albums since the Smiths had one or two stand out songs (eg 1st of the gang to die/our frank) But the last one (tuxedo on the cover - can't even remember the title) had absolutley no redeeming features.
So what did he actually say?
Billy Bragg has some pretty interesting things to say but I won't be doing hill-sessions to his albums any time soon.
Subjective innit though - I personally can't stand the whiny streak of pi55 but each to their own. I got the Flight of the Concords album t'other day and its awesome. Doubt many others on here like them though.
He's a bell and I don't like his music (Smiths or otherwise)....
so they are an elitist in joke then?
More of a marginal in-joke, surely?
our frank
Was that the duet with Frank Sidebottom?
Morrissey is far from being a whiny streak...
I have the flight of the conchords album and it's great. It isn't a musical game changer though is it?
If you don't 'get' Morrissey it doesn't matter. Your loss I guess.
I think it must have been when I was fourteen
I had turned on my radio when
A peculiar voice sang with Mancunian twang
About how he was miserable then
I sat through the song as he droned on and on
Like some pale intellectual outlaw
And when he was done I thought 'That wasn't much fun
That feller wants to get out more'
And even now my friends are all amazed
When I tell them that I never went through a Smiths phase
I was just the right age at just the right stage
Just one city along to the west
Though I could tell Johnny Marr sure could play that guitar
I was never that deeply impressed
My more sensitive friends thought I was round the bend
And started looking at me down their noses
As they sat in the dark I thought 'Sod that for a lark'
Went home and cranked up Guns N' Roses
And people are still startled nowadays
When I tell them that I never went through a Smiths phase
They're the same ones who gaze at me in fear and dread
When I say I can't be arsed with Radiohead
"Never Went Through A Smiths Phase" by Mitch Benn And The Distractions
There's always someone somewhere with a big nose who knows and trips you up and laughs when you fall.
IMO.
I'm not sure it's my loss that I don't find him funny but I appreciate what people are saying about his attempts at humour.
For what it's worth I don't pay any attention to any song lyrics. If they sound good musically then that's all that's important to me. Pop stars, on the whole are bell ends and the things they have to say are usually equally ridiculous.
msany of my friends were fans and it always made me laugh about how the reacted to manufactured pop and what it stood for. They then bought into the image of Mr Sensitive with the oscar wilde books, using public transport and not eating meat [ is he even still a veggie?]. They sold this image to the "alternatives" just like Stock aitken and waterman sold kylie to the masses.
They thought they were very counter culture yet it was the same trick with a different package that they were buying
Bit like everyone buying the song F you we wont do what you tell us to stop X factor getting to number 1 - how very not doing what you are told.
The odd good song but so have U2 and lionel Ritchie
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Much as I used to loved the Smiths, mozza's mindset of recent years seems to be
1. buy a copy of the Daily Mail
2. find the main foaming-at-the-mouth diatribe contained within
3. say the opposite, accompanied by some inflammatory, pompous and self-regarding grand gesture.
4. sit back and giggle at resulting foaming-at-the-mouth outrage
5. note increased album sales from gullible people and Argentinians*
6. count money
7. buy some more property to add to already enormous portfolio
It all looks increasingly cynical when you consider that Jonny Marr quietly keeps proving he was the real talent in the Smiths, while being down-to-earth, self-effacing, faintly enigmatic and generally pretty damn cool!
He opened a music shop in Manchester on Saturday. My mate came back from there with a story of chatting to a thoroughly nice bloke, who then played his 5 year old daughter her favourite song, then gave her a pink Cribs plectrum. Not very Morrisey-esque at all
* may not be mutually exclusive
Wow Junkyard, I'm not and have never been a Smiths obsessive, I've got a few albums and singles by them though.
But I have to say, while what you wrote may not be complete and utter drivel, I entirely disagree with it.
There is a massive difference between a band like the Smiths making their own, original sound and manufactured pop made to make money for music producers or Simon Cowell types. Yeah sometimes the latter make a decent song (I love Girl's Aloud, me), but its a completely different artform.
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Yeah. Aren't there any graphic designers in Argentina, ffs? Those shirts look awful.
Yeah. Aren't there any graphic designers in Argentina, ffs? Those shirts look awful.
They had them designed for free by a random guy off some mtb forum, perhaps?
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what you wrote may not be complete and utter drivel
High praise indeed 😀
Even I can accept that they were {far]better than manufactured pop and had a message*. it was just a message hyped to the weirdos and frankly I thought [ and still do] that mosser was full of shit...does the sensitive and emotionally angsty one not live in LA now? rolls eyes thousands of times
* it was the way they were hyped and marketed I was referring to as similar
Dear God! He looks like an off-duty, tired and emotional, predatory gay social worker, who's taken the 'special' group out to a wedding reception, after they've had their outreach afternoon. This week it was t-shirt making
Dear God! He looks like an...
One of the first times I've seen the edit function used to add more spice to a post, as opposed to taking some away... good work!
I may not have finished yet! 😀
Worst. Can can. Ever.
not a single song he as ever done has ever appealed to me ever tbh he's an utter goon
this is much better
http://soundcloud.com/lazyitis-1/super-morrissey-bros
he has cult status
Nearly right but for one letter, on his current actions!
Wow, that guy on the left looks a weal webel in his I hate woyalty t-shirt. What a bunch of [s]pricks[/s] session musicians.
I guess the irony of whining about Morrissey whining has passed a few people by...
Strange, a film about the Los Angeles Latino Morrisey Cult
This thread prompted me to give his last album another go. After careful, considered listening I can now say I was right in the 1st place it's sh1te. Can't find anything good to say about it even his lyrics are drivel now. Children on backing vocals and one song could have been Snow Patrol if it were not him on vocals.
At one point I was sat in traffic on Regent Road listening to it and looked across at the Salford lads Club - made me think just how far he has come (down).
+1 Binners on the mindset thing too
