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Why do women in comedy evoke such hatred in men?

Seems like too many are still stuck with the mindset that "women just aren't (meant to be) funny!"

[i]People[/i] in comedy are meant to be funny. Miranda Hart isn't.

People in comedy are meant to be funny. Miranda Hart isn't.

She is funny.

That's not opinion, that's fact.

At the end of the day, like most art or come to think of it most anything it is all subjective, and what one person likes another may not, doesn't actually mean that anyone is right or wrong just that we all have a different view of things

That said it is a shame that my licence fee is wasted on this bilge

Dunno, I think you can recalibrate your sense of humour sometimes, there's quite a few things mrs watches that I started off ignoring but now watch with her, for eg.
Miranda, didnt like, now do
Mrs browns boys, didnt like can just about sit through now
Inbetweeners cringe worthy at first now like - mostly.

Other stuff im just incompatible with, the office (and most Gervais stuff TBH) will never be able to watch. Different strokes and all that, would be a crap world if we all liked the same stuff.

Spot on, Ron and Donk.

Tastes change as we get older. We also allow ourselves to enjoy the uncool.
I can clearly see how my young self would cringe at me enjoying something as mainstream as Miranda.

I quite like Miranda Hart, or what I have seen on QI and the like, being a right intellectual snob eh darcy ?

But that Miranda show is godawfully unfunny, contrived, not clever, not witty, not original etc. I cringe. Almost as bad as Mrs Brown's Boys.

being a right intellectual snob eh darcy ?

Quite the opposite hels. Try re-reading.

She isn't funny
She isn't entertaining
Her voice goes right through me
She is a gonk

FACT!

Different strokes and all that,

What you talking about?

I think she's brilliant.

A genuinely funny indiviual.
The show is very well written, she's a great natural clown and a bit of feelgood comedy never goes amiss.

Said it before but the episode with her, Patricia Hodge & the psychiatrist is excellent.

No doubt someone will be along shortly to tell us that they don't like her because they're taste is much more sophisticated.
God, I nearly prolapsed when someone came out with that one a few weeks ago. 😀

Like all art forms, there is no intrinsically good or bad comedy, just the stuff you like and the stuff you don't.

Attempting to define yourself by your dismissive attitude toward what others find funny makes you look like just as much of a prick as those who do the same regarding others tastes in music or choices of bike.

Personally, I'm really don't like Jummy Carr, Frankie Boyle, My Family, Harry Hill, Jason Manford or Michael McIntyre.
Doesn't mean I'm any better or worse than anyone who does.

The sneery, snobbish cabal of rampant ****tery on here is really beginning to get right on my wick.

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No offence.

Load of toss.

But them the Gas Man episode of Bottom is the pinnacle of comedy for me.

Rusty,

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the Gas Man episode of Bottom.....

Brilliant.

And the Milkman episode of Filthy Rich and Catflap.

I'm not sophisticated at all 🙂

She is funny.
That's not opinion, that's fact.

And for those assuming misogyny amongst the more discerning comedy lovers on here, I refer you to Exhibit A: Miranda is utter utter pish, woman or not; and Exhibit B: Smack The Pony. *THAT* is good comedy, and appears to be written and acted by women.

But yes, it's a lowbrow for stw I'd say.

Comedy, like many things is subjective, personally I love Miranda & Mrs Brown's boys, can't stand the Inbetweeners or the Office, there you go s*** happens, get over it.

Oh & Rusty +1 😆

But yes, it's a lowbrow for stw I'd say.

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I was pre-empting all the stuff which Rusty so eloquently put into words. Just in case anyone else is in a hurry to misunderstand.

I got ya first time, DD.

And Rusty:
Perfectly put.

Love it.
Not usually my thing but really enjoy the lightness of touch and joyful scripting.

Maybe too many women being funny for some men to allow themselves to enjoy it?

FeeFoo - Member
Why do women in comedy evoke such hatred in men?

Seems like too many are still stuck with the mindset that "women just aren't (meant to be) funny!"

She is funny.

[s]That's not[/s]This is my opinion, [s]that's[/s]not a fact.

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And these two:

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Now [i]that's[/i] an indisputable fact, not my opinion.

Bollocks

This ^^

That's notThis is my opinion, that'snot a fact.

Thanks for all the effort, Count.

Now this lady is funny:

Bollocks (with added iron)

Miranda, funny simple slapstick comedy.
Big fans of it in our house.

The one I never liked as a comedy was "The Thick of It".
Always struck me as low brow humour with a high brow wrapping.

On the flipside, absolutely love the old Yes Minister.

However Victoria Coren... Now there is a funny woman.

Doesn't mean I'm any better or worse than anyone who does.

The sneery, snobbish cabal of rampant ****tery on here is really beginning to get right on my wick.

Well said. There's some right stuck up people on this thread.

Victoria Coren is very good. Proof that you needn't resort to ****ting about the place shrieking in order to get a laugh. That said, Bottom is great 🙂

Alway felt that the Thick of It was brilliant for its script alone. Abusive and sweary but very creatively done and unlike anything which has been done before. Which is where Miranda falls down IMHO. utterly predictable.

The sneery, snobbish cabal of rampant ****tery on here is really beginning to get right on my wick.

Never got Miranda, just seems too much like an updated version of Some Mother's Do 'ave 'em.

Strange, I think the Miranda sit-com is quite average, brings a smile occasionally. Why she should divide opinions so much is baffling. Maybe it is actually great.

Generally if you are the sort of good natured person who enjoys a laugh you'll find most comedies funny.

I like Miranda, its not the greatest comedy ever made but its still pretty funny. Ditto Mrs Browns Boys and Michael Mcintyre. I know they aren't as good as say The IT Crowd, The Thick of It or Stewart Lee.

As I'm not a boring middle aged curmudgeon I can find all of these things funny without sneering at them through some misplaced intellectual superiority.

fizzicist - Member

Victoria Coren is very good. Proof that you needn't resort to ****ting about the place shrieking in order to get a laugh. That said, Bottom is great

Alway felt that the Thick of It was brilliant for its script alone. Abusive and sweary but very creatively done and unlike anything which has been done before. Which is where Miranda falls down IMHO. utterly predictable.

I love The Thick Of It, but it cannot, in any way, shape, or form be described as original. It's Yes Minister meets Derek & Clive.
🙂

As with music, I'd argue that in comedy it's the genre that is unimportant - it's the quality that matters.

Those who define themself by genre are both missing out and missing the point.
Bit sad really.

Generally if you are the sort of good natured person who enjoys a laugh you'll find most comedies funny.

It made me laugh a lot.
Have not really considered the implications for my perceived character.

Never seen her show before last night. Must admit I found it rather funny.

Attempting to define yourself by your dismissive attitude toward what others find funny makes you look like just as much of a prick

have a read back of the thread and see if anyone actually does this. I can't see it anywhere really.

The first series of Miranda was funny, the rest are just the same old joke repeated, then a bit more extreme. But that seems to be the formula of TV these days, and not just comedy. Flog a horse til it's ready for the knackers yard, then flog it some more.

I really enjoyed the first two series of Miranda. Old fashioned studio audience sitcom, but very well written and performed in my opinion. Particularly the psychiatrist episode, which I think will be regarded as an absolute classic at some point. The latest series has had some lame episodes where they seem to have filled out a lack of plot with running joke re-hashes.

Comedy, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

Generally if you are the sort of good natured person who enjoys a laugh you'll find most comedies funny.

Did somebody say there is no such thing as bad art ?

Reminds me of a Yoko Ono exhibition I attended (that means "went to" darcy).

She had set up a Wishing Tree, where you could write wishes on pieces of paper and hang them on the tree. Somebody wrote "I wish you were a better artist". Now that's funny.

Reminds me of a Yoko Ono exhibition I attended (that means "went to" darcy).

Jesus wept. You appear upset that I pointed out (without a childish ad hominem) that your assumption last night was incorrect. Patronising me like the above isn't very pleasant is it?

By the way, "attended" doesn't mean "went to". The difference is a subtle one, but I expect you felt I might not appreciate that level of subtlety. I understand you were only trying to help.

EDIT: do feel free to take your original comment back anytime.

hels - Member

Did somebody say there is no such thing as bad art ?

Hello!

There IS no way to define good art or bad art.
But you're more than welcome to have a go if you'd like. 🙂

BigButSlimmerBloke yep you're right the fast show was indeed brilliant

I really find Miranda funny, also Last of the summer wine and Dinner ladies, so flame me now I don't care.
These comedies imo are all well written and will stand the test of time.

"Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder but art is in the mind of the creator."

I don't find it funny at all - my 10 and 8 year old daughters love it and I watch it with them and its nice to spend half an hour with them enjoying the fact their happy and enjoying their programme.

Watching it last night my eldest said "I love Miranda-she's a legend" trying and failing to be funny I said "what like the medusa you mean?" Of course I was forgetting school is rubbish and classical mythology doesn't feature highly on facebox so she had no idea what I meant.
Her reply "well Ive never heard of Medusa so she's no legend" was funnier than Miranda TBH.

I find the sheer [i]anger[/i] Miranda obviously provokes in some people absolutely hilarious. 😆

Been subjected to a few episodes of this in the past when round friends houses. To say she's not funny is a gross understatement! Painfully unfunny is more like it, I would honestly rather pull my teeth out with pliers than watch her!

You, my friend, need to either find new 'friends' who share your tastes in comedy, or get laid a bit more or something. Because you're just a wee bit too worked up over such a trivial matter. It's just a tv programme. Nobody is forcing you to watch it, are they? And if they are, then you need to address the issue of others having such control over certain aspects of your life.

A poster girl for the legions of well-connected, mediocre toffs leeching a living out of our state-funded broadcaster. She's as funny as a fire in a paediatric unit and an abhorrently physically repellent stank-monster into the bargain. The BBC's apparent mission to transform her into some kind of National Treasure makes me want to redirect my licence fee to a hitman who specialises in bumping off ungainly comediennes who have somehow got it into their heads that they can "do" slapstick.

See above. Or do you fancy yourself as a sort of Tesco Value* version of Charlie Brooker?

*A poor, somewhat disappointing substitute which leaves you realising you should just have spent the little bit extra in the first place.

That said it is a shame that my licence fee is wasted on this bilge

Personally, I think it's a shame such energy is wasted on getting angry about a tv programme, when there's far worse going on in our world.

If you are a lacking in self confidence, dyspraxic, absent minded and a bit of a needy person you might find her funny.

If you're arrogant, conceited, lacking in self-awareness and starved of attention, you might find slagging people who have tastes which differ to yours, makes you feel a bit better about yourself.

Some people just don't have a sense of humour, I'm over it. I for one have two tickets to the live show at the O2... such fun!

She was great on the eric morecambe doc too.

hi5 to thx1138 😀