[Closed] Megan Stammers runs off with teacher

Well hes covered the written side now theres just the..

And what is it about people from that certain rung of the social ladder - they love undignified public outpourings of emotion, don't they!

Best to keep a stiff ..er lip ?

It'll all be fine once we live under sharia law...

I'm with binners, he's just going the 'extra' few miles to help her practical french.....

rudebwoy - Member
Best to keep a stiff ..er lip ?

The mother blubs, the father stammers and the Chief Inspector is Tingley... Would be rude not to!

And what is it about people from that certain rung of the social ladder - they love undignified public outpourings of emotion, don't they!

and they're not even scousers.

I remember we had a girl in our school who took up with an older fella (outside of the school, not a teacher, a reasonably well off professional of some sort in his late 30s I think), she was intelligent and relatively mature in the way she behaved I suppose, carried on into the 6th form to do her A-levels (Although she was the only 6th former who dressed like their Mum and drove a BMW paid for by her "Boy friend" at the time)...

Looking back it was a bit like she was "playing grown-ups" only on a rather more serious scale. She never finished her A-levels as she wound up pregnant and dropping out at 17...

My Missus is 5 years older and if I ever want to annoy her I point out that had we gotten together when I was 15 she'd have been arrested, although from reading the legalese above that might not have been the case?

anyway I think its all about timing, Nowt wrong with a 15 year age gap between two adults, but at 15 no matter how mature, confident or self assured someone might be they lack the experiences and understanding that comes once you spend a bit of time properly fending for yourself away from your parents IMO...

As for her teacher? He's an idiot pure and simple, his action go far beyond himself and his pupil and imapct on both his and her familys... Teachers know how these things work better than ever now, irrespective of the details he's burned for life now, and the effects on those around him will be devastating...
However it all pans out, Megan will probably wake up at some point in the future and realise just how tradgic and small this man really was/is and that it's hard to have a "Mature" relationship" with a person who starts relationships with children...

Hora, all these things you say are examples of a distorted society,

Hora, all these things you say are examples of fertile young imaginations.

Exactly, word for word, I could say the same story. And I've heard the same story from other people. So if it's true then either we all went to the same school, it's a massive coincidence, or there's an epidemic of voyeur nonces and lesbians in the High School Physical Education sector.

It'll all be fine once we live under sharia law...

Indeed. At 15 she'd have been married off years ago 😆

And what is it about people from that certain rung of the social ladder - they love undignified public outpourings of emotion, don't they!

Binners, you know your not allowed to critise that subject in any shape or form.

In reply to an earlier post; if she had been over 16 WHEN it started he would be sacked and stuck off the GTC register,her parents would/frequently sue the local Authority for allowing it to happen. This is based on outcomes from similar recent examples. Obviously that is the least of his problems now.

Junkyard - Member
I know what you mean. Imagine being so insecure you have to live your life behind a mask of faux outrageousness with emotional and way OTT statements just to get attention.
It would be tragic eh.

Way OTT? Insecure?? Nonsense. Just find it rather distasteful watching poor people blubbing on TV. It put me off my port! Whatever happened to Dunkirk spirit?

Well its not a criticism. Outraged Daily Mail readers should applaud it, as if we had sharia it'd be a non-problem. As she'd have been highly unlikely to ever encounter a teacher in the first place 😉

Anyone else rather disturbed by the comments last night / this am...

...Police having trouble tracking them in France / Europe because of the lack of CCTV / ANPR network.

Whatever the rights / wrongs of this specific case, I find that almost casual observation to be very worrying

or there's an epidemic of voyeur nonces and lesbians in the High School Physical Education sector.

We had a voyeur nonce PE teacher but the female PE teacher was too busy being shagged by the other male PE teacher to be molesting the girls. There was never any suggestion the voyeur one had touched any boys mind you, just that he was keen to make sure we actually had showers. The other teacher (the shagger) didn't care as long as we took our towels and went into the shower block but I don't know whether that means the first one was just trying to do his job properly or a pervert.

not sure what you mean rkk, are you worried about the lack of CCTV in france?

or did the french police have a nonchalant attitude?

Whatever the rights / wrongs of this specific case, I find that almost casual observation to be very worrying

What do you find worrying about it ?

rkk01 - How would you suggest tracking people in a country twice the size of the UK if they don't use the autoroute and stay out of bigger towns?

At our school, the PE teacher was more likely to rattle your legs from underneath you with a sliding tackle from behind, than be interested in what you looked like naked. Brian-Glover-in-Kes stylee

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I thought that rkk01 was getting at the fact that we, in the UK, have accepted CCTV as somehow being normal!

Normal, yet almost completely useless

Police having trouble tracking them in France / Europe because of the lack of CCTV / ANPR network.

Whatever the rights / wrongs of this specific case, I find that almost casual observation to be very worrying

Whereas everywhere else in the world finds our use of it in this country quite worrying.
Well not every country, I imagine North Korea's quite envious 🙂

I thought that rkk01 was getting at the fact that we, in the UK, have accepted CCTV as somehow being normal!

Ah, fair point.

...Police having trouble tracking them in France / Europe because of the lack of CCTV / ANPR network.

Whatever the rights / wrongs of this specific case, I find that almost casual observation to be very worrying

Disturbing because we are as a nation heavily observed and tracked by various agents of the state? Or because the rest of Europe are (relative to the UK) rather "Behind" in their ability to spy on and track people?

Your statement leaves it a bit open ended....

[quote=binners ]At our school, the PE teacher was more likely to rattle your legs from underneath you with a sliding tackle from behind, than be interested in what you looked like naked. Brian-Glover-in-Kes stylee

Our "funny" PE teacher was like that. Rugby and football he'd play (shirts and skins obviously) and not only did he play to win, he was also prone to dishing out red-hands on the team playing skins (you know, massive open hand slap to the chest or back).

We had a pervy woodwork teacher. He was well-known for asking the bustiest girls to cut a piece of hickory with a blunt saw whilst he stood opposite furiously peeling an orange. Sinister.

I'm sure it's already been done, but anyway...

To clarify - I do not like that we are one of the most surveiled societies in the world.

The Police's casual observation that they dont have the same sort of CCTV / ANPR networks in Europe was a stark reminder of what sort of society we live in.

I'd also imagine (rightly or wrongly) that the infamous [i]gallic shrug[/i] might be invoked regarding this whole sorry story - not just in France, but likely in Italy, Spain, and a number of other European countries as well...?

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All the cameras in the world don't matter one bit now that everyone's realised that nobody is actually watching them. And if they were, you just shove you're hood up and the whole thing falls down. That's if the footage would ever have been good enough for an ID in the first pace. Which would be a miracle in itself, and probably a first

sounds like a dodgy school to me, not the 1st incidence
also it was a c of e school, does that mean its classed as a faith school?

even michael gove had been warned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19725791

re the cctv thing, would madeline macann been found if there had been ul syle cctv coverage?

Perhaps its getting competitive and they're trying to make up some ground on the Catholics?

Whilst France does have a large Muslim population, unlike Britain France hasn't attacked any Muslim country since "Algeria". Whereas we have been in soooo many foreign countries over the past 20yrs fighting terrorism that we need CCTV....

Then there was the IRA.

So sadly yes. We do need CCTV/monitoring. Theres a price to intervention.

So sadly yes. We do need CCTV/monitoring. Theres a price to intervention.

Imperialism ... you mean..

In part. rudebwoy- BTW are you Fred?

France hasn't attacked any Muslim country since "Algeria". Whereas we have been in soooo many foreign countries over the past 20yrs fighting terrorism that we need CCTV....

Afghanistan
libya
Bosnia
Kosova
gulf war - both of them
That is just form memory probably more- not how we were in all of those too and as IIRC we have not been in one where they have not

Ivory coast was them and we were not there

Great point well made,

And France banned them from wearing their Kiss Me Quick hats in public too. They really like those hats

Thankfully cowboys boots and hats have been unaffected

In those conflicts it has been the UK/US first/prominent.

Balkans were peace keeping. The France came under NATO/UN as did many many countries. Same with Libya- it was logistics mainly but one French warship shot down(?) a Libyan fighter (I think).

France is in Afghanistan - The Foreign Legion mainly.

In part. rudebwoy- BTW are you Fred?

not the last time i looked, my details are in profile i think, i've got nowt to hide

ah NATO- the club that has many handles , bit like those biker gangs where they all have to give you a kick

Re. gallic shrugs - the story has actually made the news in France, even noticed it in the notoriously parochial Dauphiné Liberé the other day...

Mr Lloyd, Lib Dem MP for Eastbourne and Willingdon, defended the school.

He said: "I know Bishop Bell well and I'm confident that their procedures have been exemplary."

Ms Duckworth's concerns followed a separate incident in 2009, in which a teacher at Bishop Bell was jailed for starting a sexual relationship with two teenage pupils.

PE teacher Robert Healy was jailed for seven years after grooming them on social networking site Bebo.

In a separate incident a retired Church of England priest suspended from the church following a Criminal Records Bureau check was allowed to remain as a governor, despite the school being aware of child sex allegations against him.

Canon Gordon [b]Rideout[/b], 73, has been charged with committing 38 offences over an 11-year period between 1962 and 1973. He is due to stand trial at Lewes Crown Court on 19 October.

A point that the earlier posters seem to have missed is that the rules pertaining to teacher/student relationships are there for the mutual benefit of all parties. For example, the doctor and patient relationship is sacred in a similar way, it doesn't matter if one or both parties is over the age of sixteen or not.

No-one is going to come out of this well, not the girl, the teacher or their respective next of kin who'll invariably have an incredibly difficult time dealing with this.

PJM1974 makes a very valid point there.

Tbh, the repercussions from the teacher's actions will be felt most from those around him. Jesus, imagine being in his wife's position, or the parents of the girl? No doubt, all the stepdad wants to do is kick the bejeesus out of Jeremy whathisname...and who could blame him for feeling that way. Instead they just have to sit powerless and hope for the best.

A little bit of sensitivity for all concerned is well in order.

Internet backslapping of a thirty-something who's possibly committed statutory rape isn't.