Hello
Just bought one and it arrived today looks awesome almost wish the weather would turn so I can wear it!
Any other owners out there and general thoughts?
Anyone use theirs for snow sports?
Congratulations.
stevomcd of White Room/ Ski&Snowboard thread fame has one and likes it.
I would also like one! It's a little too far down my list of Expensive Things I Quite Fancy to be bought any time soon. I would absolutely wear it on snow.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mcnair-mountain-shirts
Up there with HebTroCo!
I think McNair was up there first, and part of the inspiration for HTC being up [s]w[/s][b]t[/b]here.
HOW MUCH!!!! 😯 😯 😯
Up there with HebTroCo!
...the make HebTroCo prices look like Matalan!
As a result of the feedback from that thread I stumped up and bought one.
They're beautifully made, very warm and keep you dry in a light drizzle.
Mine is the lighter weight merino and is good for brisk walking down to freezing when combined with a merino vest. They're not windproof though and above 5C are probably a bit warm. I'm a sweaty bugger, so too much merino isn't a good idea, but despite being the go to top for cold dry days it's never been cleaned and doesn't niff!
I may get another...
Natalie who makes them is lovely.
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Holy **** they are pricey.
Lovely looking bits of kit, but pricey.
For that reason I'm oot!
They'd probably get enough mugs to hand over another hundred quid on top of those prices if they launched a mcnair pubic hair mountain shirt. Hand crafted from the finest sheared pubic hair in the world.
Yep, I've got a Mountain Shirt. Warm, waterproof and looks fantastic. Yes, expensive but you only need to look at the quality.
Their customer service is brilliant, and the packaging that it drives in is a work of art!
Mrs YP has one too!
Yep, I've got a Mountain Shirt. Warm, waterproof and looks fantastic
So proper waterproof, as in like a jacket?
I'd be embarrassed to spend that much on that product. Each to there own all that...
That is a price that is beyond ridiculous.
No, not proper waterproof. Thick wool, wouldn't want to be out all day in the rain in it!!!
So not waterproof, not windproof, and I would cry if it got damaged? Hmmmm.
OTOH, I can buy all sorts of merino or recycled fleece tops, that have similar performance for a lot, lot less? Hmmmm.
Yeah and I can go down to the market and buy a bike with a frame, two wheels, a chain and with pedals!
But I don't. I go to a quality LBS and buy what to me is quality kit with quality advice!
It's not a bike.
It's a shirt.
Quality advice?
What 'quality advice' do you need buying a shirt?
Their customer service is brilliant, and the packaging that it drives in is a work of art!
Decathlons customer service is pretty good too.
And where are you displaying this 'work of art' packaging, or did you throw it in the bin?
£375, for a shirt you're supposed to get wet and muddy?
Riiiiiight.
Hmmmm
But.....but...artisan....curated....lots of other words......
I don't have a beard. I'm not target audience.
That is a price that is beyond ridiculous.
Not really when you factor in cost of materials, premises, business rates, equipment, promotion/advertising/website, labour and VAT.
If you want a premium product hand made with care in the U.K. In small volumes It is going to cost you.
Other shirts at cheaper prices are available if you feel it's not for you.
Even taking all that in to account £375 for a shirt is still ridiculous. It's a shirt
It's a shirt
They should've called it a Jacket - might get some more customers 😉
Jacirt
😀Jacirt
Just need someone in the area to start making moleskin undies and were sorted.
Jacirt - it's a jacket for torsos!
Shacket
moleskin undies
I think you will find that this target market would 'benefit' from tweed budgie smugglers, to complement the beard, tats and artisan hair gel.
f*ck-the-cat..... those are a bit spendy, and difficult to justify over icebreaker.
Lovely though
I always find the politics of "value for money" interesting. Most of us on this site ride around on lifestyle man-toys that are many thousands of pounds, the "which multi thousand pound watch" threads are pretty common, and yet...
It's expensive, so what? No one is forcing anyone else to spend whatever they want on anything...it's weird.
Cripes, I was expecting expensive, but ... 😯
agreed, nickc. I've bought suits that are pricier than that, and that's for work. This shirt would doubtless last longer, and I'd be having more fun while I was wearing it. I think what jars is just the word "shirt" - you've got an idea of what a shirt costs, and it isn't well over £300.
As others have said, expectations about how much a "jacket" costs are much more open ended. Head over to the ski and snowboard thread and ask about Patagonia, Norrona, Arcteryx...
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I always find the politics of "value for money" interesting. Most of us on this site ride around on lifestyle man-toys that are many thousands of pounds, the "which multi thousand pound watch" threads are pretty common, and yet...
It's expensive, so what? No one is forcing anyone else to spend whatever they want on anything...it's weird.
Not really.
It's a wool shirt.
It does nothing other wool shirts don't do, yet is considerably more expensive.
If there is no added function, then surely you are buying the thing because of it's price, rather than despite it?
Which then turns it into something else......
Applies to e.g. Rolex vs Casio too...
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Not really.
It's a [s]wool shirt.[/s]WATCH
It does nothing other [s]wool shirts[/s] WATCHES don't do, yet is considerably more expensive.
If there is no added function, then surely you are buying the thing because of it's price, rather than despite it?
Which then turns it into something else......
Oh, I agree, but most of those who lust after such objects are quite open about their vanity.
Yeah, but. Gopping tho, innit? I'm vain, and I'd happily pay another 250 not to look like that.
Although I've just spent £190 on 2 discounted icebreaker merino shirts in M&S (medium and small, not the shop). Might keep one or none.
I think one is always going to have a problem trying to charge top whack for something that's perceived value is well established to be lower. In this case:
a) a "Shirt". Shirts do not cost 350 quid. The suggestion that if they marketed it as a jacket, jumper or whatever, the price would be more easily justified, proves this. Jackets cost that much, shirts don't.
b) Rugged, things made of wool, tartan and buttons, worn my beardy types to chop wood etc, don't cost 350 quid. I know it's just fashion, and people will always pay a premium for that. But there is inherently a problem trying to get people to literally pay Armani money for a wool shirt. "Best Made" are trying really hard to do this (350 usd for an axe [url= https://www.bestmadeco.com/shop/blades-axes/axes ]link[/url]) and I wish them well.
To use your watch analogy: Find me a digital watch with a rubber strap that's successfully selling for the price of a rolex.
Not saying it's right, but just that their own marketing seems to be working against them.
Although I've just spent £190 on 2 discounted icebreaker merino shirts in M&S (medium and small, not the shop). Might keep one or none.
They will be doing a pretty passable impression of a string vest before you get to Christmas. I have a couple of Icebreaker tops and can't understand why they fall apart so quickly, while Finisterre stuff, frinstance, doesn't.
If there is no added function, then surely you are buying the thing because of it's price, rather than despite it?
There is a pretty valid argument that suggests this is how much clothes [i]should[/i] cost (OK, granted that this is a specific product) We've been used for so long for offsetting the cost of clothes onto others (High Street clothes are priced solely on this model) that we're unaccustomed to how much they should be if made locally with decent materials. I'd rather have one winter walking jacket than 5-6 jackets that have been made in Bangladesh and flown over, and then disposed of (partly on the basis that the cost is so low, there's little incentive to repair)
I'd imagine (a lot like HebTroCo) these shirts should last a lifetime, given that, the price seems less stern.
s.u.r. - agreed on normal icebreaker tops. I've got one that's lasted better than others, though.
These are a bit different, we'll see what they're are like when they get here:
http://uk.icebreaker.com/en/merinoloft-helix-reversible-shirt/102666002M_WS.html
Not saying it's right, but just that their own marketing seems to be working against them.
Is it? Do you know how well they're doing?
Not saying it's right, but just that their own marketing [s]seems to be working against them.[/s] doesn't work for me
perhaps?
Is it? Do you know how well they're doing?
Of course not. Just trying to explain why people might be finding the price difficult to accept.... which is what we were discussing (I think)
As others have said, the STW demographic isn't afraid to spend a bit of money on expensive man-trinkets - including me, yet there seems to be a strong reaction to the price.
Edit:
Not saying it's right, but just that their own marketing seems to be working against them. doesn't work for me
perhaps?
Pffff..... ok, imagine that I wrote "in my opinion" before the beginning of my post.
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