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Really? They’ve already had £11.75m and eleven years with no credible leads. Surely there are more deserving cases?
Whilst a £150k is 7/10th of sod all in terms of funding something like this, I agree, it's more money down the drain. Even the cops must be fed up of sunning themselves by now.
The McCanns are smart though and have powerful friends it seems. I can never forget the fact they decided to leave their children unattended to go drinking with friends. If they'd been a working class family they would have been hauled over the coals. The McCanns on the other hand crowdfunded a fortune and drag anyone who dares say anything bad about them in the media through the courts.
As above.
I think at t very least there should be some broad explanation of how this money could be used productively , and what after all this time is the prospect of any resolution.
At the moment the government has to do anything it can to gain some support. IMO this and the sudden u turn on FOB machines are just trying to manipulate the electorate to support them and their brexit proposals, I expect to see many more "gifts" over the coming days.
Appealing the Express readership is basically Tory spending advice 101 isn't it?
They did it. £150K please 🙂
The Police seem to find budget for everything except tackling real solvable crimes.
the benefit of being white and middle class
As long as as all the other 100's of missing persons cases got £150K as well...
I can never forget the fact they decided to leave their children unattended to go drinking with friends.
Easy to be judgemental.
I'll confess that I've left my kids asleep in a hotel room while we had dinner. And I've left them up in their rooms in the house while we've sat out in the garden. I'm quite sure others have too.
It's not ideal, but parenting rarely is. That shouldn't be a death sentence or mean that they are less deserving of justice.
That said, unless there are still open fresh lines of investigation in this case then it does seem like that money might have been put to better use elsewhere.
P-Jay nails it - end of thread.
I'm intrigued as to whether other missing people enquiries have same funding.
Easy to be judgemental.
I’ll confess that I’ve left my kids asleep in a hotel room while we had dinner. And I’ve left them up in their rooms in the house while we’ve sat out in the garden. I’m quite sure others have too.
I think there is a massive difference between your kids sleeping upstairs in their own home with the front door locked while parents sit in the garden, and leaving in a hotel room room alone while you go out eating and drinking with friends.
One is generally a lot less risky than the other.
And I’ve left them up in their rooms in the house while we’ve sat out in the garden. I’m quite sure others have too.
Your own home with front door locked probably isn't that risky, unless you live in a war zone.
I think the highlight of the whole thing was when the massive missing persons tv screen in Glasgow was just showing Madeleine Mccann nonstop for days. Usually it'd have a rolling screen of dozens of missing persons, from runaway kids to lost alzheimers grandmas, all local, but forget about all that! A child has been misplaced in another country, several weeks ago!
And it's still happening now, without a shadow of a doubt another missing person case could use that money more effectively, but we've never heard of that missing person so they don't matter. And we never will.
My sister works missing persons in West Mids. (West Bromwich, not sure how big an area she covers).
Mainly teenage runaways, that sort of thing. Obviously not the most salubrious area either so a lot of troubled people who don’t want to be found.
Used to be her & a PCSO but now it’s just her. She’s got piles of cases & no real help dealing with them.
woody2000 - nails it, if they didn't do it, they know who did. I believe the cadavar dogs more than the McCann's.
The money spent on this farce would've paid for a half decent babysitter.
Not sure why the Met feel it necessay to waste time on this. Do they investigate every crime involving brits abroad? No, so why is this one so important?
A chance to top up their tans and visit the duty free.
She's dead, the parents know far more than they're letting on in my opinion. Draw a line under it now.
If we knew the rate at which the average missing persons case is solved, and then apply that to the amount of police time the McCanns case has been bought, we could figure out just how many runaway kids and terminally confused grannies the McCanns have made disappear by virtue of hogging the rozzers.
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The money spent on this farce would’ve paid for a half decent babysitter.
Have you seen the price of childcare lately!?
oof, that's a bad one birky
They did it.
I used to think this, but now I'm not so sure. Probably because I'm a parent myself.
Worked in newsrooms at the time and journos were conditioned by experience to always think it was the husband/dad.
Looks like we'll never know now anyway.
I’ll confess that I’ve left my kids asleep in a hotel room while we had dinner. And I’ve left them up in their rooms in the house while we’ve sat out in the garden. I’m quite sure others have too.
What they did was the same as me leaving my kids in bed sleeping while I go down the pub and have a few. The pub is less than 100m away, I can see the front of my house. If a child falls out of bed, has a nightmare or a coughing fit, or just wakes up needing comforting I'm not there, but who cares really...parenting is all about not losing your children mysteriously in the night, isn't it?
without a shadow of a doubt another missing person case could use that money more effectively,
I'm not sure on that. There's not many children of her age go missing, presumed abducted to meet an as yet unknown fate. But if there's no new lines of inquiry I'm not sure how any amount of money would help. 🙁
So what's the scale of human empathy here exactly?
- If your child is abducted/murdered while you are downstairs then you get full sympathy and a full investigation.
- If you are less than 100m away in the garden but the front door was locked and you live somewhere nice then you get what, 80% sympathy and and 80% of the investigation?
- And if you are in the pub but less than 100m away and still in sight of the house then you deserve no sympathy or investigation as really its your own fault when you think about it?
That about right?
My Mum used to leave me outside the house in the pram. Of course that was safe back then we were 50 miles from Manchester and Saddleworth Moor.
Why does this page repeatedly reload?
Is there some JHJ voodoo going on?
Whilst a £150k is 7/10th of sod all in terms of funding something like this, I agree, it’s more money down the drain. Even the cops must be fed up of sunning themselves by now.
The McCanns are smart though and have powerful friends it seems. I can never forget the fact they decided to leave their children unattended to go drinking with friends. If they’d been a working class family they would have been hauled over the coals. The McCanns on the other hand crowdfunded a fortune and drag anyone who dares say anything bad about them in the media through the courts.
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So what’s the scale of human empathy here exactly?
– If your child is abducted/murdered while you are downstairs then you get full sympathy and a full investigation.
– If you are less than 100m away in the garden but the front door was locked and you live somewhere nice then you get what, 80% sympathy and and 80% of the investigation?
– And if you are in the pub but less than 100m away and still in sight of the house then you deserve no sympathy or investigation as really its your own fault when you think about it?
That about right?
That's about the size of it Graham yes. Very sad.
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My Mum used to leave me outside the house in the pram.
Not so very long ago it was standard practise to leave your baby in the pram outside the shop while you went in to do your shopping.
Still happens in some countries:
There are loads of ‘interesting’ videos on youtube regarding this case. A majority are saying the parents are guilty as sin.
11.75 million is a huge amount of money though, its actually excessive bordering obscene.
at the expense of a whole bunch of other equally worthy cases.
Which are ? Thankfully these kind of cases are very rare.
Plenty of examples of unsolved murders of UK nationals abroad if you google it. Sadly not as rare as you’d hope. Just that this one case has a huge, never ending amount of publicity & seemingly never ending public funding, and the others don’t. I guess technically she is still just missing & they are hoping to find her alive, not sure many people really believe that’s still the case though unfortunately.
Plenty of examples of unsolved murders of UK nationals abroad if you google it.
Yes, but how many unsolved stranger abductions of small children. Some types of cases are always going to be more high profile than others.
There are loads of ‘interesting’ videos on youtube regarding this case. A majority are saying the parents are guilty as sin.
Those youtube videos are always made by impartial observers with a full command of the facts, law and evidence. And they are in colour so must be 100% correct.
I feel sorry for the family having no closure, but also agree that the money is best spent elsewhere. After the amount of time that has lapsed there can’t be much chance of finding her.
I’m not sure on that. There’s not many children of her age go missing, presumed abducted to meet an as yet unknown fate
Missing person case not just kids. Hiring someone to help mattbee sister would almost certainly give better returns. If only answers rather than anything more.
– And if you are in the pub but less than 100m away and still in sight of the house then you deserve no sympathy or investigation as really its your own fault when you think about it?
Has anyone said that? Although tbh, a large portion of the blame falls with them. Assuming they didn't do it then clearly she would still be alive if they had been better parents
But either way it deserves to be investigated..and it has been..lots. but another 150 k, on top of an existing 11million quid? Unless they have new leads to follow then they need to draw a line under this and move on I'm afraid.
So what’s the scale of human empathy here exactly?
– If your child is abducted/murdered while you are downstairs then you get full sympathy and a full investigation.
– If you are less than 100m away in the garden but the front door was locked and you live somewhere nice then you get what, 80% sympathy and and 80% of the investigation?
– And if you are in the pub but less than 100m away and still in sight of the house then you deserve no sympathy or investigation as really its your own fault when you think about it?
Who is to blame then? The neighbours, the people you're dining with, society?
They chose to repeatedly leave their children alone while they went out. Maddie asked them not to, but they put their enjoyment above the childrens wellbeing.
Somhow that's someone else's fault??
Who is to blame then?
Whoever abducted the child is to blame.
McScamed
So in summary, crap parents have contributed to disappearance or death of child and we should keep paying year on year for their error?
It's a crock of 💩
Yeah they were asking for it really, weren’t they?
FFS. 😡
Not at all but c'mon the public should not have to fund this latest "search".
Yeah they were asking for it really, weren’t they?
It is a waste of money though. Are there really some new leads worth spending this cash on?
Couldnt it be better spent on other missing persons searches?
Leaving aside everything else about the parents should the fact they were good at working with the press really mean money should keep being spent on it? Sure if they had some good new lead or some DNA worth investigating but as I understand it they have absolute bugger all.