To be fair, the future is bleaker for meat eaters.
yep they'd have to eat stringy miserable vegetarians 😆
I don't see any moralising from veggies Kevevs. Just meat-eaters getting a bit of siliconosus vaginitis, like yourself.
Milk production is just as big a cause of cruelty to cattle as meat production,
Bollocks.
Meat is delicious. That's a good enough reason to eat it and indeed base every meal around it.
The best thing about this thread is the OP is not a vegetarian but is still getting grief for being a righteous moralising yoghurt knitter for advocating that omnivores don't have to make meat the focal point of every meal. Good for your health, good for your wallet and better for the planet*. Seems like win, win, win to me. But as an ex veggie that selectively eats a bit of meat in his diet I would say that.
* large quantities of generalisation may have been used in this statement.
I like your idea tazzy.
I'm off to fit a spear to my bike. 😀
Always amazes me why anyone would even care what other people choose to eat,unless you're the one picking up the bill for it.............
I agree with emac65 chap, just chill and accept that some people like different things 😀
the pure and righteous moralising that goes with it.
and we are off
Milk production is just as big a cause of cruelty to cattle as meat production,
Bollocks.
and the well reasoned argument of the meat eaters start of
every thread always the same irrate meat eater getting upset at veggies [ who really dont care what you eat] whilst insisting we moralise
OK, that was a bit much. you didn't explain why the future is bleaker for meat eaters though DD
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Bollocks.
No, not really. Spanner McRusty makes a valid enough point which is why the likes of JY can justifiably occupy the higher moral tor than say, a dairy & egg eating veggie. It's just the degree of cruelty involved that's in debate and how cruel one believes it to be is going to vary from individual to individual depending on his or her own moral compass wrt how we view the role of animals on the planet. *
* I'm possibly moralising now, so apologies to Kevevs. 😀
to be fair junky, there are some on silly track who don't need any particular subject matter, they can moralise and get offended and report posts and sulk about pretty much anything... I'm sure they could even turn a "what tyre" thread into an exercise in righteous indignation. 😀
you are all a bit weird really.
how we view the role of animals on the planet.
as a cuddly, fluffy moving buffet lunch neatly wrapped in useful things like fur and skin.
*dons rabbit fur posing pouch whilst munching on a raw seal puppy sandwich*
If vegetarians are that bothered about animal welfare/cruelty why don't they perform the ultimate sacrifice for their cause and kill themselves? (then buried in a recycled cardboard coffinn for fertiliser not burned)
Their very existence no matter how Puritan has an affect on the welfare and environment of animals that their blinkered hypocritical views fails to acknowledge.
Another case of siliconosus vaginitis. It must be spread in the food chain amongst meat eaters.
(then buried in a recycled cardboard coffin for fertiliser not burned)
sorry, that's a waste of resources, bodies would go much better in an Anaerobic digester used to produce bio-gas for energy generation, although to be fair the calorific value of fatty meat eaters would be more useful. 😀
All this reminds me of a joke...
What the difference between a jew and a muslim?
Who gives a shit..
More bacon for me. 😀
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Awaits the ban hammer.
Another case of siliconosus vaginitis
to be fair DD most of the manginas on show, are that uptight no sand would enter. Now you on the other hand are baggier than a wizards sleeve and could fit half a beach in there 😆
Awaits the ban ham[s]mer.[/s]
To be fair tazzy, the amount of hot air you're blowing on this thread alone would heat my house for a week. 😉
Their very existence no matter how Puritan has an affect on the welfare and environment of animals that their blinkered hypocritical views fails to acknowledge.
Blimey, someone got out of bed on the wrong side!
Blimey, someone got out of bed on the wrong side!
Probably sleeps in a hamhock.
*coughs*
Blimey, someone got out of bed on the wrong side!
Every day it seems.
If vegetarians are that bothered about animal welfare/cruelty why don't they perform the ultimate sacrifice for their cause and kill themselves? (then buried in a recycled cardboard coffinn for fertiliser not burned)
Their very existence no matter how Puritan has an affect on the welfare and environment of animals that their blinkered hypocritical views fails to acknowledge.
Yes, because taking things to ludicrous extremes is always a good way to make an argument. The suggestion that unless you lead a totally ethically perfect lifestyle you may as well not care about anything is equally clever and insightful.
To be fair tazzy, the amount of hot air you're blowing on this thread alone would heat my house for a week.
hot air? moi? nah I don't care one way or t'other darling. I'm very much of the "life is too short to get hung up about what others do" persuasion.
EDIt: unless it's an orange 5 rider with gears, in which case they should be used as sausage meat. 😆
ok, I'll dig a hole. It's true that mest eaters always have the option to choose not to eat meat. I have thought hard about it. Loads of those animals hanging about on farms etc waiting to die are there cos we choose to eat them. They would not exist or have a life otherwise. They are not there for recreational purposes. I doubt sheep or cows wouldn't even exist if it was not for humans wanting to munch on them.
The suggestion that unless you lead a totally ethically perfect lifestyle you may as well not care about anything is equally clever and insightful.
Thanks Hun xxx 😳
Well bugger off and talk about tattoos and goths and shit then tazzy. This thread is for uptight moralising only. Blasé fleckers like you ain't welcome. 😛
*blows kiss at DD*
I doubt sheep or cows wouldn't even exist if it was not for humans wanting to munch on them.
if clouded leopards tasted good in a burger, we'd have loads more of them as well. Instead of sponsoring endangered species and getting a fluffy toy we should farm them. be loads of the tasty little blighters in no time at all.
EDIt: unless it's an orange 5 rider with gears, in which case they should be used as sausage meat.
You know, if you're not busy next weekend, we could use one another for sausage meat. 💡
UPTIGHT MORALISING ONLY!! mmmn, clouded leapard meat.
You know, if you're not busy next weekend, we could use one another for sausage meat.
edit: just deleted my comment as i'll get reported and told off by the mods (again) for making remarks that while totally respectable and no more saucy than that of fankie howard seem to upset fine upstanding folks
oh hang on, I said upstanding...s****....
post it Tazzy, go on go on go on...
whatnobeer - Member[i] Milk production is just as big a cause of cruelty to cattle as meat production,[/i]
Bollocks.
Meat is delicious. That's a good enough reason to eat it and indeed base every meal around it.
No, it's true.
Do a bit of research before spouting off.
I'm a meat eater btw.
Personal choice.
Currently having a bit of a rethink about it, but at the moment, I eat meat and use animal products.
The only serious reason why I do so is my own selfishness.
I'd love to be able to come up with something that could justify it, but I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that morally I'm on a very sticky wicket indeed.
Brother and sister in law both work for the Vegitarian Society, but I can't really discuss the issue with them because they just get a bit arsey and judgemental about the whole thing.
These threads should be good because, hopefully we can get a full range of opinions without being offensive to each other.
Not really working this time, is it?
oh hang on, I said upstanding...s****...
...and by upstanding, he means penis.
well, I'm totally open minded about it RS. It's interesting stuff to think about. But, Like you, I like meat.
lol, thanks Jamie
Meat is too delicious to give up. I'm going on a keto diet in a week and I can't wait to have animal in every meal 😀
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Loads of those animals hanging about on farms etc waiting to die are there cos we choose to eat them. They would not exist or have a life otherwise. They are not there for recreational purposes. I doubt sheep or cows wouldn't even exist if it was not for humans wanting to munch on them.
To put that in human terms Infanticide is better than an contraception because at least they had a life.
To not be borne is never worse than to be killed.
These threads should be good because, hopefully we can get a full range of opinions without being offensive to each other.
Indeed its amoral choice and you can make whichever one you want and we could have a reasonable debate ...it could happen on STW one day
Vegetables are what food eats.
I eat what I like, sometimes vege, sometimes meat. What ever tastes good.
calm down Junkyard. Is it not true that cows n sheep n pigs exist only for human consuption? They would be pretty useless at living out in the wild without us humans, they are too daft. They are species evolved to feed us? I'm not getting your Infanticide comparison.
Iirc I read somewhere (probably teh internetz) that chickens would be long extinct if we didn't eat them.
Could be wrong though.
I will attempt sensible debate and see how short it lasts
Is it not true that cows n sheep n pigs exist only for human consuption?
yes they did not exit till we made them to eat - nt even getting what your point is here tbh
They would be pretty useless at living out in the wild without us humans, they are too daft.
yes it is true farming does indeed require farming
They are species evolved to feed us?
they did not evolve to do this we selectively bred them to do this
I'm not getting your Infanticide comparison.
well if it is better to have a life , even a short one, then killing our young is better than contraception - its your argument just used on humans. It seems to break down quite easily as no one would argue that.
Iirc I read somewhere (probably teh internetz) that chickens would be long extinct if we didn't eat them.
It would not be extinct it would just never have existed as it comes from red junglefowl - bred for cock fighting not food originally
I simply don't see the issue in other people's food, it's just not on my radar.
I eat meat, I eat it with almost every meal. Why? I like it, it tasts nicer to me than non meat meals. Also, the simple reason for meat being an every day thing is cost. I can afford it. If I couldn't, I'd bulk out my with meals with more veggies. I don't think that's any different from most.
Vegetarians on a high horse? Well you don't often hear meat eaters getting radio 4 airtime betraying people for not eating meat...
what I'm saying is, and thanks for being so dismissive, is that if left to their own devices, sheep and cows would be killed out of existence by other species. Their tasty meat exists cos we want it to. You make a couple of good points there however DD. The underlying one me being quite thick 😀