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[Closed] Lotus Carlton - how does it perform against modern hot saloons

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Don't worry Mr Smith, I drive around the local ring road at the speed limit and then only when safe to do so. All of these cars are ridiculous on the public roads and I drive a Dacia. Once upon a time I used to compete. Anyhow you're absolutely right, I should be embarrassed by posting in this thread which is devoted to cars that I'd fit with a GPS controlled speed-limiter on the public road if I were dictator. They'd do 30mph max in a 30 limit dropping to 25 if the windscreen wiper rain sensor had detected rain.

I thought we were talking hot hatches (ie FWD) rather than 4X4 homologation specials.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 9:35 am
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Edukator

I thought we were talking hot hatches (ie FWD) rather than 4X4 homologation specials.

They're 4wd hot hatches. And they're production cars not homologation specials. And anyway, regardless of how many pointless arguments you want to make based on incorrect information and false assumptions it's all a bit moot.

Something like a Lotus Carlton would cost £120,000 in today's money so you're into modified RS6 territory. Would an incredibly rare, expensive and powerful car from yesteryear be quicker than a super saloon from 2016? definitely not. Would it be quicker than the hottest hot hatches? Maybe under the right circumstances, but cars like the Golf R and Focus RS will be much easier to live with day to day and much more of their performance will be usable more of the time.

So for £30k you can now buy a relatively usable, practical day to day car that can hold it's own with rare exotica from yesteryear.


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 9:46 am
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[url= http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-s-p100ds-updated-0-60-mph-time-is-so-fu-1789069181 ]Tesla's Model S P100D Updated 2.4 Seconds To 60 MPH Time Is So Forking Quick[/url]

heheh

Is the P100D a hot saloon?


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 10:03 am
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Edukator that's some beautiful prose up there. I can almost close my eyes and picture Brands Hatch (almost)

How is a FWD hatch arse heavy? The engine is in the front? Anyway out of the top end hot-hatches only the Seat Cupra and the Civic Type R are FWD the rest Golf R, A45 AMG, RS3, Focus RS are AWD.

Incidentally despite the supposed disadvantage of FWD both the Type R and the Cupra can boast sub 8 minute lap times of the Nordschleife (not sure all their AWD rivals have managed that yet)

I think in anything but a fast open circuit the Lotus Carlton would struggle to match their pace


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 10:35 am
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Carlton v Monaro VBH as mentioned above


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 10:55 am
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I remember only a few years ago they were going for £20k.

Okay, maybe not a few, probably ten. But still 🙁


 
Posted : 17/11/2016 11:40 pm
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Not sure how it compares performance-wise, but I saw a Focus ST with 13600 on the clock go for £15700 today, I think it was a 64 plate. Tidy looking car, a sort of candy orange colour.
Good thing I don't have that sort of money available, I might have been tempted!


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 1:05 am
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Christ, pwnd by an Aussie taxicab. That sure popped my nostalgia bubble.


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 7:43 am
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Not sure how it compares performance-wise, but I saw a Focus ST with 13600 on the clock go for £15700 today, I think it was a 64 plate. Tidy looking car, a sort of candy orange colour.

From a look on pistonheads, that's about a normal price


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 8:35 am
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The car that cost my mate his life at 19 years old.


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 8:45 am
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Looks a bit chavvy.


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 9:43 am
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stumpy01

Define massive.....does it get in the way of your vision, as it droops down from your forehead? Or perhaps the end dips itself into your soy latte when you try to take a sip.....?

stumpy01 - 😀


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 11:01 am
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Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee


 
Posted : 18/11/2016 11:40 am
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Didn't get to see much Lotus Omega.


 
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