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[url= http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/tips-and-tools/drink-diary/ ]I find this useful for guaging how much a person really drinks[/url]
esp as we ALL underestimate how much we drink
The cost of all that booze! Plenty of scope for increasing fees I reckon.
I consider myself to have issues if I feel like having a quick drink more than once a week, it's usually a sign I'm not overly happy with something, but I don't see any issue with telling someone they may have an issue, I just don't subscribe to the "you're an adult, it's your own problem" attitude. Any sensible logical person would take that from a loved one as a reasonable question with good intent.
How come we are only being told these sorts of guidelines when 20 years ago it was never mentioned.
Because 20 years ago the info was only just starting to be gathered in any real gusto?
No WE don'tdocrobster - Member
I find this useful for guaging how much a person really drinks
esp as we ALL underestimate how much we drink
French people drink lots of wine, and they seem quite nice.
Me and 'er indoors probably drink too much. Some weeks when I'm doing the Walk Of Shame, taking the empties out for recycling, it looks like the Rolling Stones have been recording Exile On Main Street in our house for the preceding fortnight.
But like the OP, I'd say the majority of it is us opening a bottle of wine to have a glass with our dinner, then her quietly tanning the rest of it.
I might have a couple of beers on a given evening seldom more than that.
Amazingly, the best way to avoid drinking alcohol is to not buy it in the first place - stocking up on special offers and multi-buys just sees you go through a larger amount in the same amount of time.
I find this useful for guaging how much a person really drinks
Really? I am a drinker but it doesn't have a 'nothing' option.
Amazingly, the best way to avoid drinking alcohol is to not buy it in the first place - stocking up on special offers and multi-buys just sees you go through a larger amount in the same amount of time.
i dont agree really - we have bottles of whisky, cachaça, rum and over 300 bottles of wine in the celler.. our glass recycling has never gone cazy..
i think its more a little bit about control? The brits 'in general'* dont seem to have this..
*widely sweeping statement, but since leaving the motherland and living elesewhere i've seen a huge difference..
French people drink lots of wine, and they seem quite nice.
For fear of being misquoted, I think there is a difference in the way the French view and drink alcohol, not implying anything in relation to the OP.
esp as we ALL underestimate how much we drink
Do we really? I think not.
[url= http://www.****/news/article-488682/Safe-drinking-limits-simply-guess.html ]And you can stuff your scientists.[/url]
Jeezus, if I drank a bottle of wine a night, I'd be a right state by the end of the [s]week[/s] night! 🙁deadlydarcy - MemberJeezus, if I drank a bottle of wine a night, I'd be a right state by the end of the week!
Her reaction suggests, she might think she has a problem. Why not suggest you both cut down for a while?
we ALL underestimate how much we drink
No we don't. Median weekly units is zero.
scotia - Memberi dont agree really - we have bottles of whisky, cachaça, rum and over 300 bottles of wine in the celler.. our glass recycling has never gone cazy..
i think its more a little bit about control? The brits dont seem to have this..
Yeah, I've got a cupboard full of spirits as well and they rarely get touched. The odd G&T in the summer, an occasional glass of single malt, a bottle of Fino sherry that gets used in stir-fries in lieu of rice wine vinegar, and the same bottle of tequila that's survived about four house moves.
Beer and wine, on the other hand...
did you notice the 300 bottles of wine?!
Apologies to the teetotalists! 😳
I'm not a teetotalist but neither do I underestimate how much I drink.
scotia - Memberdid you notice the 300 bottles of wine?!
Having a cellar's different though, innit? You have to have a cellar in the first place.
I'd imagine if I had that kind of set-up there'd be a load of bottles in it that were too good to drink or were being kept laid down for special occasions so special that you'd never actually get round to drinking them.
[url= http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Alcohol-Use-Disorders-Identification-Test-(AUDIT).htm ]this is quite revealing too[/url]
I certainly don't under estimate my alcohol consumption. Inthink if you do then you probably drink too much. This week one bottle of beer on Sunday night, no alcohol Monday to Thursday, probably a g&t and a glass of sparkling on Friday night, couple of beers on Saturday and that's pretty much an average week. Might have a beer if we go out for lunch at the weekend.
Not looking to annoy or aggravate anyone but to those that drink on a weeknight for example, why are you drinking?
I used to but looking back i cant think why, I think it was more a habit then anything else.
I started road biking then we had a baby, there was always something else that needing bought so we stopped buying drink. Before we knew it we are both loads healthier and sleep better, I lost 3 stone since January some through removing drink I imagine but probably more through exercise.
Rarely drink now not for any moral high ground but i just hate hangovers and the thought of outdoing my hard work on the bike.
Think the biggest factor is having a child though did anyone else find alcohol consumption reduced after a baby in the house?
I used your calculator above there Docrobster based on our last weekend get together I drank about 70 units, I've not added the Saturday nights yet.
must be just people that come to see me then 😉
but then I work in a former pit village where 7 pints a night is the norm. thirsty work you know
why are you drinking?
Because I like wine.
I drink because yeah I like it, it's great way to relax and it's a nice social thing but it was easy for me to pretty much stop. I go weeks without a tipple.
My wife and I were never big/regular drinkers, but having a child dis top the occasional heavier night. At the time, I was the only driver and we were always worried that we'd have to jump in the car unexpectedly for some reason 🙂carbon337 - Member
Think the biggest factor is having a child though did anyone else find alcohol consumption reduced after a baby in the house?
[i]Rarely drink now not for any moral high ground but i just hate hangovers[/i]
You don't have to always drink enough to give you a hangover you know.
should have said rarely drink heavily for the hangover statement.
Just been chatting to Mrs about it, we think it was her pregnancy that kicked it off - me sitting drinking on a random Tuesday night in November didnt seem fair when she couldnt have one. Kind of just got out of the habit. We were about 4 bottles a week between us so not huge amount but then normally a big night once a weekend.
Its difficult talking about others drinking without firstly pissing others off but secondly sounding like some sort of born again dogooder.
Apologies to the teetotalists!
I said MEDIAN not MEAN - I drink alcohol, but very seldom to excess!
I reckon if she got upset at that, it's because she knows she drinks too much. I drink less than her and I have too much - if regular.
Not that I know anything about her.
- 😆 Not just me then!It may be five years, it may be fifteen, but you are going to pay for this....
The way to get yourself out of this, is to explain that you don't think she's an alco or anything - it's just the extra calories are making her arse bigger by the bottle. This way, she'll know you were only concerned for her. No, really......
I said MEDIAN not MEAN - I drink alcohol, but very seldom to excess!
Your MEDIAN isn't zero, then. I think you mean MODE.
it's just the extra calories are making her arse bigger by the bottle
The danger there is the OP's head might get bleedier by the bottle.
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The French, Italians and Spanish drink constantly, we drink in binges. They're always pissed, we aren't, hence the problem. Remember kids, don't drink and drive, drink and ride.
Makes me laugh that someone who drinks between 6 and 12 beers a week (2-3 beers 3-4 nights a week) is being told they drink too much !
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And that they have no right commenting on their partner drinking 4-5 bottles of wine a week !!
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He are having 12-24 units a week.
She is having 27-36 a week
Do you drink piss for beer? The beer I drink is ~3 units a pint, which would mean he's actually drinking a very similar number of units to his girlfriend. You can argue about the different allowable units for men and women if you like, but that's for average men and women. He's certainly drinking enough to make his high horse a bit wobbly.
To OP yes that's too much.
I don't see any wrong with telling someone s/he is drinking too much. Well in fact tell them off ... as direct as possible. No pussy footing. Hurt the feeling? Well, it bloody well be ... I would rather hurt the person feeling than having to nurse him/her back to health.
Tell the person not to be a drama queen and drink less or die young. Well dying young is fine but just don't prolong it as it's a hassle to people around.
There is no excuse whatsoever for not being able to take criticism or being told off as an adult.
If you work on Alcohol by volume 4 75cl 12.5% bottles a week equals 12 pints of average strength beer / lager / cider.
Sound familiar?
I actually like to enjoy the taste/experience of different beers. I might pop down to Booths (nice huge selection!) on a Saturday and buy 3-4 new beers for the week ahead.
Sounds like the OP just buys a crate of Fosters... and probably drinks due to boredom....
Until April I drank every night for 15yrs, just a beer or two but always one big night a week. I got a red wine habit which became a half bottle every night. I was doing a stressful job and I think I was using it to relax. Doctor told me to cut down and I did some reading on the consequences.
It doesn't matter if you feel drunk or not it's what it is doing to your liver and heart. Bit worried by some of the bravado above, dont we have a responsibility to our family and friends? Any doctor will tell you 3-4 bottles of wine every week is too much for any woman.
OP; admit you do the same as her, apologise for being blunt and address the reason she feels the need to drink so much. Changing your own habits will help her change her own.
The problem is not the drinking but the reason for her wanting to drink that much. The drinking is only a symptom.
Back to my beer and cashews (it's only a stubby), good luck with this.
We just stopped drinking in the week (see post above on "why do you drink?") and I agree it makes a remarkable improvement on sleep patterns. Very easy to do in fact so long as you make the rule absolute. Made bu*ger all difference to weight for me though - still as fat as a pig.
My mum drinks 2 x 1L bottles of Vodka a week since the old man died... well, actually for the last few years when he was here too LOL. I know she's got a problem.. SHE knows she's got a problem... but doesn't really wanna do anything about it.
Me, i drink once or twice a year.... 🙂 i'm a saint me
I would ignore any sanctimonious crap and the bravado - you did the right thing and good for you. So bravo not bravado - well done and good luck to you both
Yup facing upto the issue is a true feeling of self worth.
If you are happy with the outcome, stick with it. If not, change it.
Best of luck sonny.
I agree it makes a remarkable improvement on sleep patterns.
What is it with that? I was drinking to help relax and get to sleep, I give up and I'm getting 7-8hrs straight which I never got before.
I might drink a couple of ciders during a week, possibly share a bottle of wine with the missus aswell/instead. On the odd occasion i polish off a bottle of wine in one sitting, which just about gets me feeling light headed.
I thought i had a bit of a problem, but that seems fairly light consumption, compared to the OP and his GF.
As for why you sleep better without alcohol, theirs loads of studies out showing the true effects of alcohol. Its a depressant etc. One of them being that whilst its may help you fall asleep, its prevents you from falling into deep sleep or some such thing.
bigsi - might be best to go through the recycling together and add up the numbers of units you've both drunk since the last collection? Then add on stuff drunk outside the house.
It's a 'scientific' way of assessing what's happened and also puts you in the spotloight as much as her?
I've always found the easiest way to see of seeing if drinking/eating chocolate/etc is a 'problem' is to stop doing it for 2 weeks.
If it's hard to not do it then it's probably a problem.