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Seems as if theyre all jumping through hoops like trained poodles to get their name and picture in the papers.
Is it actually worth voting for any of them, and let apathy win.As in a few days after the election ,they seem to forget their promises.They dont seem to forget their wage or expences though.
You do realise that anyone within very broad perimeters, such as a British national, can stand for election, don't you project ?
Even someone like yourself who has the highest moral integrity, would never lie, and would never be interested in the money or expenses.
And more important of all, everyone is completely free to vote for them if they so wish.
So where's your problem ?
If they were doing it for money, a job at Aldi would pay much better, with far less hassle, believe me 🙄
Well a lot of people won't be voting as there aren't local elections in many places next month
If TJ stood i would vote for him, he seems like a well balanced chap.
Tories ... just because I think the others are shiter.
I am Lib Dem & Labour strong hold ...
Oh ya ... I think all of them are maggots regardless of their political affiliation and I usually vote against whoever hold the majority in that area. I am the swing voter ... I love swinging ... 😆
I bet TJ will vote for Dear Leader ... Chairman Mao loves you.
The local Tory boy.
The Silly Party
project - MemberIf TJ stood i would vote for him, he seems like a well balanced chap.
I do wonder about standing - thing is we have some green coucellors locally ( multi member constituencies) so i would be running the risk of splitting the green vote standing as a green / cyclist / independent / pain in the derrière
I Shall be voting Green.
so i would be running the risk of splitting [b]the green vote standing as a green[/b]
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i suppose ill have to vote ken, even though hes a twunt its a 2 horse race and borris is only in it for his friends in the city and is generally a crap mayor
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Boris.
as the midwife whose home i was working in last week said... everyone blames the tories for the cuts but its labours fault they let the NHS employ thousands more than they really needed..
the NHS the 5th largest employer in the world..
totalshell - Memberas the midwife whose home i was working in last week said... everyone blames the tories for the cuts but its labours fault they let the NHS employ thousands more than they really needed..
the NHS the 5th largest employer in the world..
So the point you're trying to make is that you'll be voting Tory in the local elections next month ?
Presumably, because the Tories will be sacking people from the NHS - yeah ?
Boris all the way. At least he [i]looks[/i] like he's dooing a "job", at rather than the whiny-voiced Mr negative-seek-only-to-discredit that is Red Ken.
as the midwife whose home i was working in last week said... everyone blames the tories for the cuts but its labours fault they let the NHS employ thousands more than they really needed..
that would hold true if the tories were sacking people from the NHS but they're fundamentally pulling it apart.
Its not true anyway. the number of staff the NHS needs depends on the activity you want it to do.
see the massive reductions in waiting times and massive improvements in treatments? Down in large part to teh increase in staff
Its staff that provide the service. lESS STAFF = LESS SERVICE
Hmm. Edinburgh, so none of the parties have really done themselves any favours over either the trams or the outsourcing of council services. When I tried to talk to 4 colours of local councillors about concerns on the latter, only the blue one responded. So I reckon I've got to vote for the only one who engaged with constituents when asked to. Feels weird that.
Oldbloke - Green?
Or the independent standing in southside?
Edinburgh also - and with one of the Conservative candidates suggesting that we have an issue with immigration, you can guess she'll not be getting one of my votes.
Kryton57 - Member
Boris all the way. At least he looks like he's dooing a "job"
so you vote for someone who looks like hes doing a job rather than actually doing one?
borris has increased pollution, put travel fares through the roof , couldnt be arsed to come back to london when the riots were on and his only policy plan seems to be to build a floaty island in the thames for planes to land on?
Labour - no way. Have we forgotten the invasions and incessent willful lying? A self serving bunch of unwashed jock straps is about the most apt description of the last government.
Conservative - see above, substitute the lying and invasions for policy u-turns by the day and the selling off of everything to their mates. Still a bunch of unwashed jock straps.
Liberal - 🙁
Green - can we have some sensible green policies that don't simply hit low earners in the pocket please? Oh and where do you guys stand on nuclear energy these days?
The URL sort of gives it away...
http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/04-04-2011-unacceptable-risk-nuclear.html
TJ - Green was one of the ones who didn't respond.
Gordon Murdie has his appeal, but he opposed the outsourcing of services. I don't know about 2 of them, but the outsourcing of waste services from CEC has significant merit. I used to work in the waste industry and I know how far behind the city is.
id love to vote green, they just loose it for me completely with their science policies!
kimbers - Memberso you vote for someone who looks like hes doing a job rather than actually doing one?
Yep, which means most of us posting on here would get my vote. 😀
Out of the shambles that either of them produced, at least Boris has created something useful to me directly. Tubes with air-con, nice buses (will reduce polution, the boris bike scheme is a runaway success (and reduces polution), oh and council tax hasn't increased for a few years now.
I do believe however, I'm still paying back, without obvious signs of any gain whatsover the cost of having labour in power.
Could never vote Tory. They are the enemies of everyone apart from the rich - they don't give a stuff about ordinary people, because they simply have no idea what it's like to be one.
Have voted LibDem in the past, especially after the Iraq fiasco, wouldn't now because they got in bed with the Tories - see above.
Would like to vote Green if they were credible. Or a decent independent if there was one.
Sadly Labour seems like the best of a pretty bad bunch. I don't like Ed Miliband, but at least he's not a smarmy git like Blair.
On the question of who ruined the economy - let's get this straight EVERYONE had a hand in it not just a political party, there weren't that many people who weren't taking the loans and credit the irresponsible greedy banks were dishing out when they shouldn't have been to do home improvements, take on mortgages for houses they couldn't afford, and buy stuff they couldn't afford. People I know have lost their homes or ended up in negative equity, ended up on IVA's or facing bankruptcy because their entire lives were on credit!
I include people at every level of society, as well as businesses, who were greedy, and greed and mindless consumerism as well as those who glorify it are responsible for the crisis.
Anyone who will beat the tories for me. Anyone here voted Tory/Libdem in the general and changed their mind?
anagallis_arvensis - Member
Anyone who will beat the tories for me. Anyone hear voted Tory/Libdem in the general and changed their mind?
Yep. Voted Lib Dem and even though Labour won my constituency i regret it. I'll be voting Labour and hopefully see the Lib Dems wiped from Newcastle City Council.
Out of the shambles that either of them produced, at least Boris has created something useful to me directly. Tubes with air-con, nice buses (will reduce polution, the boris bike scheme is a runaway success (and reduces polution), oh and council tax hasn't increased for a few years now.
ok borris bike scheme was infact done by ken borris just launched it and named the bikes after himself
nice buses, only cost 1.4 million each !!
borris also axed the western extension of the c-charge zone for his friends in kensington & chelsea (leaving a huge hole in tfl finances to boot) and scrapping kens planned charge on the most polluting vehicles
and the price of a single bus fare has doubled
meanwhile pollution has gone through the roof and borris failed to issue pollution warnings five times this year when he was supposed to
as well as using pollution suppresants infront of monitoring stations to make it look like pollution wasnt as bad as it was!
http://cleanairinlondon.org/
Anyone who will beat the tories for me
so vote for another party with virtually the same approach to economics but with a slightly more authoritarian approach to society or a party that will jump into bed with the tories despite telling the public that it opposes them.
excellent strategy for defeating conservatism.
Quite a lot of the comments in this thread indicate that people will be voting in the council elections based on national politics. I can't say I'll do anything different, TBH, unless I become a lot more engaged with local issues in the next few weeks than I currently am. (Actually seeing some election materials would help a little.) However it does seem a little silly that we're choosing our councillors based on what their national leadership thought about the Iraq war, or what Maggie Thatcher did in the '80s.
Newcastle lot seem to all be equally useless so I might see if any small parties or indendants are worth voting for. They all say how bad the others are and why you shouldn't vote for them rather than actually saying what they will do. I assume this is because there are some unpleasant decisions to be made and no one wants to make them.
I'll also be voting for us to have a mayor.
borris also axed the western extension of the c-charge zone for his friends in kensington & chelsea
The people I know who live in K&C are much worse off as a result of the abolition because they now have to pay the full amount to drive into the West End and the City which they do every day, rather than the discounted rate for those living in the zone.
ChrisL - Member
Quite a lot of the comments in this thread indicate that people will be voting in the council elections based on national politics.
Which is precisely why I was selfish in my explanation. I use Tube & buses every day, so I'm happy to pay a bit extra to have decent (semi) reliable, comfortable kit and commend Boris for doing so.
The police presence has increased and gone down in our area, the parks etc are being maintened to a higher standard etc
I'm voting based on how I've been affected by the people running my locale, I actually don't care which party they belong to (although I'd balk at any kind of extremism).
choice i face is Lib-dem, Labour or Conservative,
Conservative, no chance, poll tax, party of the rich, building PFI in the UK, PFI-ing the new fire stations, state of Gloucestershire, council tax levels, etc.
Labour, no chance, PFI, financial incompetance
Lib-dem, they are as guilty as the tories for the state of Cheltenham and Gloucestershire.....
er....
Just remember to vote and make sure all your friends/family do as well. The BNP got in by 19 votes once. So your vote will keep the worst of the scumbags out.
jonba - MemberI'll also be voting for us to have a mayor.
Why?
so vote for another party with virtually the same approach to economics but with a slightly more authoritarian approach to society or a party that will jump into bed with the tories despite telling the public that it opposes them.excellent strategy for defeating conservatism.
what else would you suggest I do? There was a party who championed PR but I think they are now ****ed and I couldnt vote for them anyway. Who is to say the Greens cannot defeat the cons in the local elections?
I'll be voting Green, because as a child of the 60's I'd feel more comfortable with a bunch of gentle dope-smoking hippies in charge...
(Oh, and because they are probably the only main 'socialist' party left to support.)
I'll vote for whoever seems to have the most sensible ideas for my area, ideas that match my ideals and wants/needs for the area. Not sure if they'll do it, but that goes for all of them.
Isn't that how politics works?
Boris all the way. At least he looks like he's dooing a "job"
I take it you haven't noticed him moonlighting for the Daily Telegraph then ? Or is that the job you're talking about ?
Although Johnson describes the quarter of a million quid he gets from his second job as "chickenfeed", I'm stunned to think that he has any spare time at all from his day job.
You'd think that being mayor of a major global city such as Greater London would be a full time and time consuming job, no ?
(Oh, and because they are probably the only main 'socialist' party left to support.)
Much as I'm in favour of environmentalism, this is the exact reason I will never vote green. Shame.
