Couldn't back it up,though, could you. 😉
She hasn't listened a thing from Boris filling the cabinet with yes men/women has she?
Also...
Therese Coffey has been appointed secretary of state for health and social care.
She is a nasty piece of work, appointing her to oversee the NHS and social care gives me chills.
We need to be a bit more like bonobos
We need to be a bit more like bonobos
Who, the Labour Party?
With three female prime ministers and the use of sex as a cultural prop, I think the Tories might have cracked it.
Bill - are you referring to sexually promiscuous behaviour?
You didn't get grief ernie. I just wated you to back.it up🤣🙄
Accoding to Ernie its my fault mefty does not post anymore because i refuse to hide my loathing of the tories.
The man who can prove normative determinism is bunk James Cleverly, is foreign secretary. Wow.
i refuse to hide my loathing of the tories.
There's refusing to hide it; and there's indulging the desire to shout about endlessly. To be fair you're not too bad for for that.
Holy shit, she's found someone who makes Patel lol like a cute fluffy bunny to replace her.
None, then?
I haven’t edited anything.
Quoting part of what I said is editing.
Kept Ben Wallace though so there’s something going on between the ears! 😀
On giving her a chance, I think of the popular saying :
Fool me once shame on you,
Fool me twice shame on me,
Fool me...
...wait, what are we up to again?
Left bollox?
Deserves recognition. 😂
Not offering any odds on Kier?
There’s no need for that. Starmer might be right-wing but to suggest that he would stand in a Tory Party leadership election is a bit below the belt!
Dunno, they've just made a former Lib-dem the Tory leader. At the risk of derailing things further could we get odds for Corbyn to replace her?
Don't mention the C word !!!
I'm looking forward to a good fry up and a couple of beers twice a day on prescription given the new NHS leader.
(It'll solve the long term pension problems - as everyone will be dead by 53)
Oh I think she HAS. Mates together for 2 years. Just cross yer fingers you don't get ill or crash and need treatment.
Johnny mercers wife 🤣🤣
The new health secretary is only 51?? What kind of paper round did she have?
So she’s going to spaff money like a pissed sailor on shore leave while simultaneously cutting taxes?
IMF and raging inflation here we come. Brace, Brace, Brace!
jake berry - minister without portfolio; more like minister without principles or minister without a brain
Really liking the media's oblique references to truss and kwarteng being...friends or good friends.
How long before more 'detailed' comments emerge?
Anyone else noted a weighting of appointments towards east anglian MPs?
Yes, I know her constituency is in the region; is this her way of thanking the turnip taliban for not forcing her out when her extra-marital thrusting with mark field was exposed?
'Pork bayonets!' Bonobos was a reference to a remote and long distant debate on here.
The ERG has now completed its takeover of the government and is now running the country
Ironic that it is a remain campaigning former Lib Dem that has been their vehicle for doing so
That new cabinet is as terrifying as expected.
Ah, possibly before my time.
Bonobos, truss, kwarteng - naked arses going up and down, up and down, up...
That new cabinet is as terrifying as expected.
Aren't you rejoicing in the fact that our new Deputy Prime Minister is a Northern lass who looks as if she might have visited Gregg's a few times binners?
jake berry – minister without portfolio; more like minister without principles or minister without a brain
That useless piece of shit is my MP, lives in Anglesey ~100mile away from his constituency of flat cap doffers who keep re electing him on doing **** all.
Aren’t you rejoicing in the fact that our new Deputy Prime Minister is a Northern lass who looks as if she might have visited Gregg’s a few times binners
I’m thinking I may follow her lead and start smoking again actually
Getting the smoking ban repealed is just one of her views, alongside restricting a woman’s access to abortion
Nice
We are now ruled (and it is ‘ruled’) by extremists in all departments
Truss is an absolute sock puppet who hasn’t yet realised that the ERG cannot be either reasoned with or placated and nothing will ever be enough.
I expect she’s about to find out if she tries to instigate anything they regard as ‘socialism’, which will be anything seen as ‘handouts’
Think we knew today was coming, but now it's actually here and happened i'm pretty much of the mind to completely ignore politics and just stock up on tinned goods and ration packs, to think a few years back we were laughing at the US with Trump, now look at where we are, i'm starting to look back at the Cameron era as being reasonable!
ernesto - ah yes, ms coffey; such a 'northern lass' that her first name is a french affectation which she's chosen to retain, complete with acute and grave accents.
Pretentious? Oui.
So much of a 'northern lass' that, on getting a uni place, she went to oxford and has stayed away from liverpool and the north ever since.
Pronouncing support for a local footie team and regional causes doesn't make her a 'northern lass'.
She is no more northern than I'm a member of the landed gentry.
The Guardian's reference to coffey being '...convivial' caused a smirk; it's code for...likes a drink and is noisy with it.
Let's hope her 'conviviality' doesn't get in the way of improving the NHS.
likes a drink and is noisy with it.
Are you sure she isn't Northern?
french affectation
She is a catholic, there are a few of them in Liverpool, probably named after Thérèse of Lisieux.
So much of a ‘northern lass’ that, on getting a uni place, she went to oxford
You think that northerners shouldn't accept a place at Oxford?
Pretentious? Oui.
Using the name her parents gave her? Outrageous.
There are some people who appear to think that the way to deal with people with whom you disagree is to hurl abuse until they go away.
Is that actually happening?
Quoting part of what I said is editing.
I disagree. I haven't changed anything. I quote as a placeholder as to what I'm replying to, the original post is still available. I'm not trying to quote selectively but rather I fail to see the point in copying and pasting great swathes of text from three posts ago.
Many forums facilitate this sort of discourse and it's tedious as all hell to read the same nested posts fifteen times over.
I try not to join in nowadays when a pile on occurs.
That’s the funniest thing you’ve said in bloody ages – you’re the first to pile-on!!
Really ?,I thought it was this.
There is no censorship here. If someone holds unpopular views then, well, that’s on them isn’t it.
The problem is that at each step, many countries (UK, USA, Turkey, Russia, Hungary, Brazil, Venezuela, Italy, France (nearly) etc etc all lurch further and further into nationalism (it's what the Tory party is - the current English Nationalist party) then eventually it ends up in a war. As we see in the Ukraine already.
Hope you're ready to sacrifice your offspring to it.
To be fair the last major wars that the UK was involved in occured under a Labour government.
I'm not sure how much nationalism played a part although the messianic complex of the Prime Minister undoubtedly did.
I’m not sure how much nationalism played a part although the messianic complex of the Prime Minister undoubtedly did.
Any Tory Gov would have joyously galloped into the valley of death, don't kid yourself
Kidding myself? The only Tory MP who didn't vote for the Iraq war was Humphrey Mullins, who I helped Labour defeat in Croydon.
Of course the difference between Labour being the party of government and the Tories at the time is that if the Tories had been in government a hell of a lot more Labour MPs would have voted against the war.
But not on home soil.
I suppose if you're happy to take the risk, then it's fine. 🤔
And who led those wars, out of interest ? The uber right wing evangelically-backed Dubya Bush. Blair was just his patsy.
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i refuse to hide my loathing of the tories.There’s refusing to hide it; and there’s indulging the desire to shout about endlessly. To be fair you’re not too bad for for that.
Hiya!
I do post about my hatred of Tories.
I'm usually very pleasant to most people I meet and in my day to day life try and remain as helpful and positive as possible toward everyone. It seems to be the nicest way to live my life.
I don't ask how people vote before I decide how I'm going to interact with them.
However, I reserve the right to express my opinion about Tory voters.
A fair, equitable society requires all sides to act in a decent, respectful manner.
I see voting Tory as an act of selfish aggression and disrespect to those less fortunate.
It causes needless misery and suffering to millions of people.
I've tried being decent about it, but rational debate requires empathy, respect and understanding on both sides.
I've come to realise that many Tory voters are incapable of genuine empathy. If they were, they wouldn't vote Tory.
Being nice doesn't work.
So, I feel no remorse about stating my views.
Kidding myself? The only Tory MP who didn’t vote for the Iraq war was Humphrey Mullins, who I helped Labour defeat in Croydon.
Of course the difference between Labour being the party of government and the Tories at the time is that if the Tories had been in government a hell of a lot more Labour MPs would have voted against the war.
of course your kidding yourself. The UK was going to war, and personal preference made no difference. voting against it in the knowledge that it would be a protest vote is different.
