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La Vuelta a España 2023 - discussion and velogames thread (possible spoilers)

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Just tuned in in time to overhear Remco pointing at his team mate saying 'James Knox is a little ****er'.


 
Posted : 01/09/2023 4:00 pm
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Ineos Grenadiers having a nightmare atm. Arensman looked in a bad way, sending healing vibes for a quick recovery.


 
Posted : 01/09/2023 9:32 pm
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Things I am jealous of with regards Geoffrey Soupe:

  • What. A. Name. Geoff Soupe. Mr Soupe. Incredible
  • Beard.
  • Check out his leg guns

Cyclist Geoffrey Soupe sprinting across the line at La Vuelta a Espania. His bears is resplendent and his thigh muscles are SWOLE


 
Posted : 01/09/2023 10:53 pm
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G is racing for the Ineos Grenadiers as the nominal team lead, but I have my eye on Thymen Arensman.

None of that is working out for you really is it @nbt ?!

Been a while since Ineos had this bad of a Grand Tour to be fair. I feel sure that G will battle on through for a mid place finish but it'll be nowhere close to what they were expecting. 🙁

[img] https://img.aso.fr/core_app/img-cycling-vue-png/alt-08-ve23/16498/0:0,1644:959-960-0-70/a3bdd [/img]

Another mountain day tomorrow - not a summit finish though.


 
Posted : 01/09/2023 11:09 pm
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We have Eurosport as part of our TV package.  The Vuelta show is known here as the "what on earth will she be wearing today?" show.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:04 am
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Well this isn't very pretty but the first link gets you there. He's proper banged up and missing a tooth, was concussed but seems ok apart from that.

<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thymen Arensman posted on Insta last night. #LaVuelta23 pic.twitter.com/bunAvNUre6</p>— ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily) September 2, 2023

https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:31 am
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None of that is working out for you really is it @nbt ?!

If anyone knows any team principals , I'm willing to choose riders from another team in next year's velogames for very reasonable fees like a new garmin or an old bike in my size...,


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:35 am
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The Vuelta show is known here as the “what on earth will she be wearing today?”

Orla has "interesting" dress sense.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 5:23 pm
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I usually watch with a glass of wine.

Today I had a little semillon.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 6:21 pm
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Not a big fan of the sexist tone this thread is taking. Can we knock it on the head please?

Anyway, back on topic. Jumbo seem to be going about grinding Remco down bit by bit. He's weathering it remarkably well but we're not even at the first rest day yet. It'll be interesting to see how ho copes with the onslaught.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:32 pm
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He looked a lot better today than the past few. But it was a pretty short climb today, I think he suffers on the longer ones.

No idea why, but I'm warming to Remco. Could be an "anyone but Jumbo-Visma" thing.

When are Ineos going to realise they need to start riding for stages rather than protecting GT for GC?


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:52 pm
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At 8'43" down, one would hope that they won't wait too long, but then he's not looked great so maybe after the rest day

Chuffed to see Sepp in red. Fantastic


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 9:59 pm
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No idea why, but I’m warming to Remco. Could be an “anyone but Jumbo-Visma” thing.

It's funny isn't it. I like Remco and cannot stand Kuss..no idea why..

Except, well, Jumbo....


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 10:00 pm
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No idea why, but I’m warming to Remco. Could be an “anyone but Jumbo-Visma” thing

I thought Jumbo had given Kuss a tilt at red specifically to counter AbJV syndrome! Genuinely delighted to see him in red.

But yeah, I also sort of like Remco for just seeming a bit human, attitude and all.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 10:27 pm
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I think I'm warming to Remco in the same way I warmed to Pog. He's become a bit of an underdog (kind of) and seems to be a pretty authentic guy.

I feel like I have to defend Jumbo a bit as well though. It's easy to think of them as the new Sky, but they're far more tactically interesting than sky were. Some of the best grand tour stages of recent years have been the result of some pretty audacious moves by JV.


 
Posted : 02/09/2023 11:30 pm
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Jay Vine has withdrawn after a crash

Saw his post on Twitter, sounded nasty!

He shared a pic of himself at the roadside with his bike, the tubeless rear tyre is off the rim and front also I think. In the era of discs that can't be a heat thing so what happened? Bit alarming 😬


 
Posted : 03/09/2023 3:03 am
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So it looks like Remco didn’t know he was sprinting for the stage win. That explains the annoyance after the stage finish I think.


 
Posted : 03/09/2023 10:24 am
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Yeah... Raises a lot of questions like why did Remco start the sprint in the first place 😂


 
Posted : 03/09/2023 11:24 am
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"....the tubeless rear tyre is off the rim ...."

Tubeless on hookless rims at about 33:00

Bike industry in general at about 7:00 in

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/paris-roubaix-crashes-spark-debate-about-tubeless-tyre-safety-on-the-cobbles/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ppDWYBv15hY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZdMZ_SiOBsc


 
Posted : 03/09/2023 10:05 pm
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Are we up to speed on the results from today?

I'm impressed with how Kuss went today - I guess we haven't really seen him go full gas in a TT before, but only losing 1:15 to Evenepoel (and 90sec on Ganna) on a course like that is impressive. It certainly shunts him more into credible GC contender territory.

Watching today I came up with a theory about how Ganna and Evenepoel differ in their TT success. Ganna uses so many watts that he scares the air molecules away, creating a low friction vortex in front of him. Evenepoel jsut gets so small on the bike the air molecules don't notice as he passes by.


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:44 pm
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I do hope Jumbo offer up some support for Kuss and at least give him a chance of riding for GC.


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:52 pm
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Yes good effort by Sepp. I'm rooting for him to take the overall (so naturally I've now jinxed him). I think the Tourmalet stage will be a good indicator.


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:53 pm
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I do hope Jumbo offer up some support for Kuss and at least give him a chance of riding for GC.

zero chance, kuss a minute up, roglic within 30 seconds of remco, and vingegaard only another minute back, isolated remco is about to get "granoned"


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 10:09 pm
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Yea for sure Jumbo, it's just which one. Going to know better on Friday.


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 10:21 pm
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Looks like Ganna really wants to move up GC  😀

https://twitter.com/LidlTrek/status/1699385350928445515


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 3:04 pm
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Ganna beasting it on the front!


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 4:54 pm
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It's ridiculous how strong Jumbo-Visma are as a team...

1st, 4th and 7th on GC at the Vuelta while at the same time dominating everything at Tour of Britain!

Flat stage tomorrow, only 150km as well.


 
Posted : 06/09/2023 5:33 pm
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Looks like Jumbo are going to win every grand tour this year aren't they

Today's the day to see who the Jumbo leader is and if the others really have a chance

I still reckon its Ving


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 11:22 am
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i think Jonas looks tired, he hasn't chased much or put in any big efforts, unlike Kuss and Roglic? I think Roglic is looking good, and it'll one of them, but the next few stages will definitely ones to watch, maybe Jonas has been sitting back and waiting for the big mountains and riding into it...


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 11:31 am
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Anyone else loving Roglic's interviews?

I might adopt the same attitude at work... "i may turn up today uh", "i'm gonna just get coffee for myself uh"


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 11:32 am
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he hasn’t chased much or put in any big efforts

Just like the TDF then 🙂

But you could be right, today is the day to see

(edit) plus this is very similar to the 2022 tour 'handhsake' stage with the exception of the final, so ving will know whats coming


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 12:04 pm
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Ooooooh Remco gone pop. Wasn't expecting that


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 3:07 pm
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Not good for the rest of the race..

So predication that Jumbo Visma get 1,2 and 3 at Vuelta, and dominate Tour of Britain also!?


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 3:21 pm
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Ooooooh Remco gone pop. Wasn’t expecting that

He was talking down his chances yesterday - wasn't sure if it was sort of reverse bravado or an indication that he might not be feeling great.


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 3:24 pm
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Doesn't seem too much of a stretch does it. Impressive how they've got 2 squads of superstars... probably still got some spares too 😀


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 3:24 pm
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aaand ving takes off. Bye!


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 5:25 pm
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1,2,3 on stage and gc jees


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 5:46 pm
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Blimey... i think thats what they call complete team domination...

Now for another 1-2 in ToB today.


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 5:46 pm
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With Remco gone it really is hardly worth watching...sad that my thought about Jumbo always seem to come back to the same thing...suppose that's cycling. Struggle to see the joy in one team dominating. 😟


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 5:50 pm
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It is a bit like the Tour de France once Pog had popped, not the same competition, only joy from this will hopefully Kuss winning, as he is so well regarded


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 6:05 pm
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Well, I guess we can still hope for some fun racing for stage wins?


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 6:18 pm
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Yes, even with the angliru to come it's which Jumbo wins.

Kuss looked comfortable closing 20-30 seconds on Vingo at the end. Ride all 3 grand tours, win the last. That been done before?


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 9:32 pm
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Glad I took the past two weeks off work so I could watch the entire Vuelta!

What races are on next week?


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 9:45 pm
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Another summit finish tomorrow, then a hilly day on Sunday before a rest day on Monday.

Ineos' challenge was over almost before it began with De Plus crashing out and then took a further dive when Arensman withdrew as well. Evenepoel is dead and buried.
There's a small fleet of Spaniards in 4th - 7th who might be able to fight it out amongst themselves for a 3rd place if the stars align.


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 9:46 pm
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There’s a small fleet of Spaniards in 4th – 7th who might be able to fight it out amongst themselves for a 3rd place if the stars align.

I think they'll be fighting for 4th.


 
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