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easy McBoo, that's where I live. It's quite nice I'll have you know.
My favourite Gym/sauna was in Kentish town. No binners it was a council gym not a man on man wrestling place.
I was never a fan of Kentish town as a place though. Just dirty suburbia.
Each to their own innit? Whatever makes you happy. 😀
I can see that clock tower from my house.
I was living in London (Lambeth) when Ken was head of the GLC. Presumably many others still living in London have less than fond memories of certain aspects of his 'rule'.
If I still lived there, I'd rather have a Tory buffoon over a pseudo-intellectual, duplicious muppet any day of the week.
brakes - Member
Ken or Boris? What a choice? Would you like you're huge shit sandwith on brown or white bread sir
which is why I voted for neither.
So how's that working out for you? No vote = no choice
I still voted.
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Lot of it comes down to serious dislike of Ken.
and the fact he never came across as genuine in his whining nasal type way, I couldn't put money one what it was he was going to improve. when I saw the summary leale that came through he door, I wondered where kens policies were. He tried too hard to discredit an not hard enough to prove himsel to be excellent at the job IMO.
As for Boris, at least we've seen some thing actually happen - new buses, freeze in council tax and a few others, and he comes across accidentally geniune even if thats a bumbling kind of way.
Not voting is basically voting the BNP in, which would be pretty stupid of anyone who took that route.
For some reason I always get him mixed up with George Galloway, I think they are probably equally slimy.
Which one was on Big Brother ?
easy McBoo, that's where I live. It's quite nice I'll have you know.
Yes cheap shot, apols. Kentish Town isn't a bad place at all.....bit better for a night out than Crouchy for sure. And you've got the Forum.
I find Ken intensely dislikable, especially since deciding to run for Mayor again - his desperation to get back in to the job really shows. He seemingly says what he thinks will get him votes, regardless of any basis in fact, and his claims to understand issues like cycling are just laughable.
The telegraph have [url= http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100154544/ken-livingstone-four-new-lies-every-week-throughout-the-campaign/ ]done[/url] a [url= http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100155047/ken-livingstone-34-separate-lies-on-transport/ ]three[/url] part [url= http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100155430/ken-livingstone-has-told-85-different-lies-during-this-campaign/ ]summary[/url] of the lies told just during this campaign. Interesting reading.
(fellow Crouch End resident, I rather like it)
simong most of that telegraph article is very selective in supplying sources and facts, though i expect nothing less from borris workmates! and andrew gilligan is hardly a trustworthy source himself
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehillblog/2008/nov/03/gilligan
So who voted Labour then? According to the Guardian Ed Miliband is on his way to Downing Street.
I'm not saying that it's a fair and unbiased analysis of lies told by all candidates in this campaign, just that Ken has told a crapload of them. He seems to like pulling claims out of thin air to suit his purposes, and doesn't expect to be pulled up on them.
[b]Politician in Not Being Entirely Honest Shocka!!![/b]
HoratioHufnagel - Member
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It helped a lot that the Evening Standard & The Metro (the Daily Mail's [b][u]FREE[/u][/b] London papers) heavily favour Boris too.
That's the key to the London elections.
Tight wad Londoners just lap up all the free "news". 90% of every tube carriage have their heads stuck in this sh1te rather than talk to each other.
Goes straight to the sub-concious before they're even awake in the morning. Then everyone hates Red Ken, but none of them are really sure why.
when they going to announce who is going to be mayor, thousands uinemployed and they cant evn get enoyugh peeps to count x marks on bits of paper.
his vanity project multimillion pound buses
Hmm. I could swear that Ken did exactly the same. Decided that for some reason what we needed was those God awful bendy buses and despite the fact Londoners overwhelmingly preferred at the most an upgraded Routemaster, went ahead with it.
I love old routemaster buses both for their absolute convenience for getting around central London or the hilarity that ensues from their total lack of health and safety compliance. I've seen plenty of people leap for the platform, miss and then have to hang on until the bus stops, being dragged down the road to avoid letting go and going under the vehicle behind.
I've seen plenty of people leap for the platform, miss and then have to hang on until the bus stops, being dragged down the road to avoid letting go and going under the vehicle behind.
survival of the fittest - keep it coming...
You do seem to be obsessed with different types of buses down there. I suppose when the streets are paved with diamond encrusted Damion Hurst skulls, there's nowt more important to worry about
Decided that for some reason what we needed was those God awful bendy buses and despite the fact Londoners overwhelmingly preferred at the most an upgraded Routemaster, went ahead with it.
"Only a moron would axe the Routemaster"
Decided that for some reason what we needed was those God awful bendy buses and despite the fact Londoners overwhelmingly preferred at the most an upgraded Routemaster, went ahead with it.
I think the people who actually used the busses on a regular basis much preferred the bendy ones. They were a lot more comfortable, easier to use and carried more people. The people who disliked them were the usual suspects (motorists, taxi drivers etc).
There were a bit of a pain cycling, but i'm not sure they were actually any more dangerous.
The best thing Ken did was the congestion charge, which surely must have helped cycling too. All cities need it.
Ther routemaster , was out of production for so long and was basicly a london product, made by AEC, in a factory now long gone.Only Newcastle bought them when new.
The new Borismaster is made in ireland the northern bit, and has a hybrid diesel and electric drive,along with aconductor, who doesnt check tickets or sell them, but chats to the driver.
As for the merc bendi buses we now have them in Liverpool and theyre great, loads of customers and flat floor for wheelchairs and prams
The people who disliked them were the usual suspects (motorists, taxi drivers etc).
AND cyclists.
AND people who paid to use them; about 50% of the people who used them just got on and didn't bother tapping in with their Oyster card. they were a big hit with fare dodgers.
for ease of use the bendy buses were great, and really good at moving large amounts of people quickly, really useful on the very busy routes
but also very easy for fare dodgers!
as a cyclist they were worse than a regular bus to overtake
its closer than a lot of people expected
http://www.londonelects.org.uk/im-voter/results-and-past-elections/live-results-2012?contest=23
BBC reckon Ken Ltd could still natch it 😯
thankfully whoever get to be mayor will have ABSOLUTELY no effect or possible intrest for the rest of the UKPLC.
You mean apart from the massive economic input of London to UKPLC?
Anyway, looks like it's going to second preferences. Could be interesting to see.
project - Member
thankfully whoever get to be mayor will have ABSOLUTELY no effect or possible intrest for the rest of the UKPLC.
IF (and i think its unlikely) borris were booted out hed be sniffing rond the PMs job sooner rather than later, that could make a big difference to the country
frak me they are making borris sweat!
9.52pm: My colleague Dave Hill says he's heard that they have found two more ballot boxes from Brent & Harrow to count.
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/may/04/boris-ken-london-mayor-election-result ]http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/may/04/boris-ken-london-mayor-election-result[/url]
Christ, I really hope it's not that whining turd Ken. Give me Boris any day.
bendy buses carry more fare paying passengers that a routemaster does. they have proper disabled access unlike the routemasters and don't cost a gazillion pounds. If it was primarily about UK jobs we could just carry on building and buying UK made double deckers
they are a nightmare to overtake though because cars pin you but other than that I don't see what the problem is
Looks like the newt fancier has been told to slither off into the long grass
Two recent trips to London have convinced me that the city centre is now populated and frequented almost entirely by [s]toffs[/s] [b]tourists[/b] while all the dross are living waaay out in the suburbs. Boris being a toff would be the natural choice of the majority of voters.
FTFY. Only two recent trips? You ought to get out of the house more.
So, what odds on Livingstone announcing that he's going to run as a Respect candidate for mayor next time round?
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So, what odds on Livingstone announcing that he's going to run as a Respect candidate for mayor next time round?
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i dunno i reckon he'll be retiring soon hes nearly 70
or probably doing what all working class socialist heroes do- angling for a spot in the upper house
i think the more interesting question i s what job borris will be after next time round
So, what odds on Livingstone announcing that he's going to run as a Respect candidate for mayor next time round?
Unlikely since it would require him to undergo a dramatic shift to the left.
He lost my first preference vote for the first time because of his ingratiating attitude towards New Labour.
Livingstone had far more credibility when he stood as an independent against New Labour.
So, you only 'half' voted for him then Ernie 🙄
Because I suppose you thought your first vote was likley to get in and your second vote wouldn't be used (I'm presuming you didn't vote Boris first choice, Ken second 😉 )
So, you only 'half' voted for him then Ernie 🙄
Why the rolling eyes Z-11 ?
Like a lot of Londoners, Livingstone wasn't my first preference - have you got some sort of problem with that ?
Livingstone wasn't my first preference
But you [b]still voted for him![/b]
Despite having vowed not to - [u]to his face[/u] - despite saying quite clearly that you did not support and would not vote for the Labour Party, of which he was official candidate, and this time, saying that "It's quite likely that I won't vote for him"
You're nearly as divorced from reality and as economical with the truth as he is!
I suppose it was all the fault of the ([i]sotto voce: Jewish controlled [/i]) right wing media
Despite having vowed not to - to his face - despite saying quite clearly that you did not support and would not vote for the Labour Party, of which he was official candidate, and this time, saying that "It's quite likely that I won't vote for him"
to be fair have you seen the bloke who won? Do Londoners realise the rest of the cpuntry is pointing and laughing?