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Spunkyard I know you're not a hater!
can I be a big hitter too?
alcohol makes you faster therefore you will avoid those accidents you would have otherwise been in as you won't be there when they happen
simple logic
I find the head angle on my bike seems to go down 1 degree for every pint consumed...
I once got pulled over by plod, and I was so drunk I could hardly stand upright. Strangely, I was more or less ok on the bike, but they made me get off and walk, and escorted me all he way to my front door! ๐
So nice and helpful, are the police.
but they made me get off and walk
that's about right IME too..
drunk in charge of a hurtling 2 ton death tool = robust policing
drunk on yer bike = friendly advice and declared a sillybilly
Mate of mine once vomited copiously in a police car when we got pulled up one night (walking home from pub). The Babylonians weren't best pleased. ๐ณ
I found it quite funny though, which was the main thing. ๐
Babylonians
Rozztafarians
Tsk, tsk Houns - you missed the baby robins off your list!
I once ran home (~4 miles) when drunk. Not a good idea.
It's just a legal definition. It has no relation on your or my ability to operate a bicycle having consumed alcohol.you could try that in court. Clearly it has some relation to your ability unless of of course you are impervious to alcohol and its effects.
Well, being on a bicycle I wouldn't need to. I'm not impervious to alcohol. Point is being over the drink drive limit isn't the same as not being in control of a bicycle and a set amount of alochol in my system won't affect me the same way as set amount in yours. So in conclusion the DD limit for cars is of no relevance to cycling after a few pints, but I think you know that really.
Drunkyard you are a big hitter in my eyes.
*swoons*
Lower league obviously!
Harsh but fair comment .. I lack the stamina
I have ridden when drunk and when sober.
When drunk on a bike:
1) I have ridden into a lamppost and bent my brake lever
2) I have fallen off and grazed my knee
When sober on a bike:
Too many to list here but I write a 3,500 story about them and had to edit it down for publication in STW magazine
Interestingly last BBB when drunk but not on a bike I managed to dislocate both shoulders
Using an evidence based study I should stay pissed and ride more.
For being drunk of a bicycle the actual offence is riding "under the influence" This has to be proven in court and a cops opinion is really not enough. Your ability to ride should be assessed by sobriety tests done by the police medial officer - walking a straight line, touching you nose and so on.
Personally I have no moral issues with riding after a few pints. Done it many a time will continue to do so.
If it's good enough for a big hitter like TJ then it's good enough for me.
you mean you are not like this in the real world al and this is all a sham done for effect
Junkyard - all of it is me, fair bit of it is F-F me, a fair bit is for a laugh, sorry but I just can't help myself, life is for enjoying - folk take the internet too seriously.
Would love to have done the ride yesterday but I am saving just now and had other commitments.
Same limit applies to cyclistsI don't believe there is a limit defined for cyclists. There is an offence about being unfit to use the bike but how this is determined is not clear. For motorists the law mentions "excess alcohol" which is something that can be measured.
Correct. There is no defined limit. However, you can be had for being drunk in carge of a bicycle, drunk in charge of a tandem and drunk in charge of a tricycle.
However, there is no such offence as being drunk in charge of a unicycle, you can be as pi$$ed as you like and have a unicycle and they can't touch you! (unless you are also drunk and disorderly, and most uncyclists seem fairly disorderly at the best of times...)
Well not quite. The actualy legal wording doesn't mention "bicycle" but uses the word "cycle" which presumably covers unicycles, bicycles, tricycles and any other multiple ๐
Section 30 of the Road Traffic Act 1988, as amended by the Road Traffic Act 1991, provides the offence of [b]cycling [/b]on a road or public place whilst under the influence of drink or drugs. It states:
30(1) A person who, when riding a [b]cycle [/b]on a road or other public place, is unfit to ride through drink or drugs (that is to say, is under the influence of drink or a drug to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the [b]cycle[/b]) is guilty of an offence.
if you are down north Al I will happily shows you the trails but if it is all the same I will use my own brakes and forks
You can be done for being drunk in charge of a horse, and a flock of sheep/herd of cahs and that too.
Fred can you be drunk in charge of an internet connection?
I'd be doing Life by now if that were the case Al! ๐
My point exactly.
Any of you worthy people care to educate us provincial types then?
Docu clearly biased.
Personally I have no moral issues with riding after a few pints. Done it many a time will continue to do so.
Indeed - a helmet will protect you from any damage you might do to yourself.
I'll bet after six pints many experienced cyclists can ride with more proficiency, and be of less risk to themselves and others, than many of the cyclists I see commuting to work every day.
One of the pubs I go to on an evening or Sunday afternoon ride is in the bottom of a valley. Every way out is up, most very steep. Believe me, by the time you get to the flat-ish bits at the top, being pissed is no longer an issue.
Oh, and Cynic, your Epic Fail pic up there^^ is an epic fail in itself; the shadowy creature surfing the wave is a bottle nosed dolphin, not a shark, it has horizontal tail flukes and the dorsal fin's too rounded.
Just thought I'd throw in a little pedantry. ๐
Why do we have specific legislation regards limiting blood alcohol level prior or during the operation of motor vehicles? Something to do with the real actual carnage wrought on the roads by pissed up drivers. Lives lost, innocent parties involved, property damaged.
Damage caused by pissed up cyclists is simply infinitesimal and on the rare occasions it does happen, there is nothing to prevent the guilty party being held to account using existing powers.
In fact the risk is tacitly understood to be so small, even by the haterz, such that scenarios in which a drunk cyclist causes a motorist to swerve have to be dreamt up. A driver presumably not paying attention, speeding or giving insufficient room.
Its one reason I switched from motorbike tours to cycle ones - the ability to have a beer or two with your lunch. I'll be sensible - I won't get steaming and go and play with traffic but I'll ride home from the pub along a canal towpath with a few beers inside of me.
I'll ride home from the pub along a canal towpath with a few beers inside of me.
I know two people who've ended up in the canal after that!
However, there is no such offence as being drunk in charge of a unicycle, you can be as pi$$ed as you like and have a unicycle and they can't touch you! (unless you are also drunk and disorderly, and most uncyclists seem fairly disorderly at the best of times...)
A long time ago, I experimentally verified the fact that I can ride a unicycle when I am too drunk to walk. Off road in the Wyre Forest. At night. Having said that I did wake up with quite a few bramble scratches, so I guess I didn't stay on for the whole ride, but I remember riding some drops that there is no way I'd have done sober.
Thank you for the long discussion on the merits of cycling whilst intoxicated ๐
As the OP, you can guess that I do! At 2am on quiet lanes near me, I feel safer than riding off road. That said I do seem to ride quite well when pissed!
The post was more about saying thank you to the local plod, who stopped a cyclist at 2am and asked a few questions about the bike, not about my drunken-ness, and realised I was the owner of said cycle, and let me on my way!
I am not joining the 'don't ride when pissed' conversation, as in reality, I hardly ever ride without a drink or two. I do respect those who choose a different evenings entertainment.
See lots of you at the BBB this weekend! ๐ (not racing - helping out!)
Robin
A long time ago, I experimentally verified the fact that I can ride a unicycle when I am too drunk to walk.
I learned to unicycle predominantly under the influence of Carlsberg Special Brew..
I would not have had the patience otherwise..
I broke my unicycle doing jumps in the hallway when drunk
Think yourselves lucky. Over this side of Europe you are under the same laws for riding a bike as driving a car when alcohol is concerned. So you can get points on your license for jumping traffic lights and lose your license for being over the legal limit.
What if you don't own a driving licence though?
Then they stamp on your face wiz zee jackboots.
We've just had this discussion at work. A colleague thinks you can lose your driving licence in the UK if you are found drunk in charge of a bicycle.
Any reputable sources (dvla, ctc etc) state this is not the case?
A colleague thinks you can lose your driving licence in the UK if you are found drunk in charge of a bicycle.
Not true.
As above; what if you don't have a driving licence? Would mean people like me could drink-cycle with impunity. ๐
You don't require a licence to ride a pedal cycle. You don't have to give a sample of breath, blood or urine if you are stopped whilst on a pedal cycle. In fact the police have no powers to ask you to do so. Therefore, it's entirely up to the judgment of the coppers as to how fit/unfit you are to ride your bike. As they cannot obtain proof that you have been drinking, which they'd need in order to charge you for being over the limit, then all they can do you for is drunk in charge, or drunken disorderly something like that, for which all they need is for you to fail a sobriety test ie walk in straight line etc.
I think the actual charge is 'in charge of a pedal cycle whilst unfit through drink or drugs' type thing. similar to being in charge of a horse etc.
Along those lines anyway.
'Unfit' is the key word. Evidence from sources such as CCTV, eye-witnesses, officer observations & Police Doctor examination are the norm to prove that the rider is so bladdered as to be unfit to ride.
A kebab in a pannier is overwhelming evidence of being pished and will more than likely get you convicted.
And thinking about it, in this country at least, you'd need to have tested positive for drink/drugs before your driving licence could be revoked, which if you were done on a bike but never provided a sample, you coon't be.

