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Man, I need a better combat ship. 🙁 Tried a Mamba, pleasingly fleet but sooooo slow to turn, went back to the Vulture and had two canopy incidents, one RTB with 17 seconds of air left, one with 10...
Bought a Krait MkII, resisted the temptation to sell the Challenger but I did swap the engineered FSD from it.
Went mining with only surface mining kit, predictably found a core and loads of sub surface deposits.
I am getting used to the Mamba now.
Getting good at power management swapping pips between engine and weapons.
Have a Vulture and absolutely hate it.
Next up is getting it engineered so time to farm some materials.
And I paid for my Krait and more last night as I was helping my daughter get to sleep on the sofa.
Tried mining with the Challenger, kitted it out with just mining lasers keeping some guns to fight pirates. Fought a pirate, she ran away. Found a load of sub surface deposits and a core that I couldn't touch. In the Krait I brought seismic charges with me, didn't find any cores.
I did not find it at all useful to have multiple prospector limpet capacity.
The glass jaw seems to be a thing with the Vulture and the Chieftain from what I've read. You can strengthen it with module reinforcements, but I'm not sure where the room's going to come from in a Vulture. I like mine, it doesn't fly as well as the Cobra but it packs a much bigger punch. Probably not the same as the huge hardpoint in the Mamba though!
Did my weekly mining trip, deep cores for Void Opals, got around 105t and about 25 alexandrite. A couple of jumps, about 40Ly in total, and I was about 110M Cr better off. Time for some missions I think now.
I like the look of the Krait II, I want one as a pirate ship and a Phantom for exploring.
Matt
I think the multiple prospectors is good for speed mining in the triple, but for cores it's useless. I have a big enough prospector to run two limpets, but that's because I have loads of room in my python and I'm running a dual mining set-up.
I'm not bothered about the fastest rate of credits and I actually prefer the mechanics of core mining. Having said that, I will go to the Borann hotspot at least once before it gets nerfed.
Matt
I was speed mining in the triple - didn't really help me. I fired off two, then tapped out one of the hits and lost the other one. By the time I found it I might as well have just fired a second.
I am not enjoying mining really. It's grind, I don't find it theraputic at all, unlike in No Mans Sky where all you have to do is shoot rocks - that was bizarrely pleasing to do for ages. I'm doing it to get some decent ships then I'll go back to missions and politics and a bit of pew pew thrown in.
I've got 90mCr, not sure what ship to get next. Save up for an Anaconda, a Type 10 to try and make money trading, or a Beluga for some passenger action. I'm not sure I fancy a pure combat ship.
I'm still grinding engineers. They piss me off a little as it is just grind after grind after grind to unlock everything. But its fun to unlock all the upgrades
I unlocked "Shield Guy" last night. His requirement (after unlocking the previous engineers obviously) was you had to have sold to 50 markets, I'd unlocked about 30 in the course of normal play so I spent a night in my Python doing single trade hops from system to system in the bubble to get up to 50.
I made a couple of million in the process but not really worth the time soak. Next he wanted 200 units of gold. I mined half of this and got some painite in the process. I bough the rest from a nearby station.
So I now have, Shields, FSD, Thruster, Power Plant, Power Dist and Multicannons fully unlocked for engineering.
Next grind is trying to find the rare material I need for the highest upgrades "Pharmaceutical Isolators" anyone?
Problem I find with the Mamba is actually bring weapons to bear - the best method I've found after the first pass is to fly backwards away from them, but it does make you a smidge vulnerable!
The way I fly the Mamba is this.
Make sure I start of from distance, the he'd straight for them, changing all pips to weapons, slow down as I get in range and just track them with guns for as long as possible,then all pips to engine to boost away then boost turn untill they are in sights again, then repeat from the slowing down bit above.
Tidy, I'll give that a try, thanks. 🙂 What was bugging me yesterday was submitting to inderdiction knowing it'd be a target, then getting minxed as I turned like a battleship to get my first shots off. As I'm already facing away, I'll give it full loud so I can be facing them before getting in range. Cheers! 🙂
Have you tried turning flight assist off, flipping the ship and then turning it back on again.
Most of the combat vids I've seen lately, they appear to be using this to turn faster or so it appears.
I enjoy mining, but that might be because I only do core (despite having a dual ship) and I only do it to get enough money for a new ship and the rebuy.
I haven't had to grind yet, I just do the stuff as I'm wandering about, I scan, land, chase signals, pick up salvage from ships I kill, to me it's part of the game and I'm not in a rush.
Grade 5 manufactured are usually high population systems, boom state seems good for some, fed for the ship materials, empire for imperial shielding(i think). Don't know about the isolators, try a loop of high pop systems and see whether any appear, then refine for that state on your map. Robert's your mother's brother. That's how I am going to approach it. TBH I haven't travelled in the bubble that much.
Matt
Save up for an Anaconda, a Type 10 to try and make money trading, or a Beluga for some passenger action. I’m not sure I fancy a pure combat ship.
Save up for the Conda, it can do pretty much anything in the game. The other two are way too specialised and other ships can do the same jobs cheaper anyway.
Have you tried turning flight assist off, flipping the ship and then turning it back on again.
Most of the combat vids I’ve seen lately, they appear to be using this to turn faster or so it appears.
I have, yeah, but it doesn't seem to make much difference in the Mamba - Vulture definitely turns a bit sharper, but the Mamba turns like a canoe a hundred foot long. 🙁
It's because you picked the worst dedicated combat ship in the game!
Yeah it looks cool as, but its basically an FDL with shite maneuverability and worse shields and armour.
Sell it, buy an FDL* and move on 😉
*I still prefer my Cheiftain though
one RTB with 17 seconds of air left, one with 10…
You know you can synthesise life support refills don't you...
I haven’t had to grind yet, I just do the stuff as I’m wandering about, I scan, land, chase signals
You mean in exploration?
I think the Anaconda is probably the good choice for trading. I'd like to see if I can do better than basic buy low sell high, which seems capped at around 2000/tonne profit at most. With 470t capacity (if it were practical to outfit it) that would make nearly a mil per trip. Which would be ok but a little dull after a while. I might have to start reading GalNet to see where the trade action is.
It’s because you picked the worst dedicated combat ship in the game!
Yeah it looks cool as, but its basically an FDL with shite maneuverability and worse shields and armour.
Sell it, buy an FDL* and move on 😉
*I still prefer my Cheiftain though
Chieftains are hard to kill! Maybe I'll work towards one of them - I got a bit dazzled by that high speed and huge hardpoint... 🙂
You know you can synthesise life support refills don’t you…
I didn't! But I'll look it up, ta. 🙂
The point of the Mamba is the look.
I will put some Roxette on loud next time I fight in mine 🙂
I have tried the Culture and I just can't get that ship to play ball, but after some practice I take down most things fairly fast in the Mamba and when you get in trouble it's easy to boost away.
’d like to see if I can do better than basic buy low sell high, which seems capped at around 2000/tonne profit at most.
Polymers.
4000+ credit per ton easily.
Single hop trade routes.
Thank me later
@Molgrips not just exploration, everywhere, if I haven't got anywhere to be or the mission complete time is a day or something ludicrous. Basically every opportunity.
Fly out of the station, scan the traffic, wake scan when they jump.
Jump in system, scan the beacon, shoot anything wanted (this bit often gets me in trouble!), collect dropped materials, scan traffic, scan wakes, back into supercruise, ID degraded, encoded or high grade emissions (HGE), find them, then head to your destination.
I don't do all of it every time, but it's amazing how it adds up.
My first exploration was from my home planet, so I have a list of planets with geological signals and which rarer ones were included. #spreadsheet****er Same for HGE.
Matt
I LIKE the Fer De Lance! 🙂
Just had my canopy shot out in the Vulture again! Having a great scrap with a deadly Asp Scout. I thought I'd synthesised some more but with 2 seconds to go clearly not. Ah well, back to the rebuy.
Matt
Went on another mining trip, filled the hold with LTDs and jetted off to the place I got 1.2m/t last time, but this time only 650k! Still, got enough for an Anaconda but not enough to insure it. I think I will do something else now though - a few missions, maybe build some rep and get some passenger miles done. Mining is boring.
Polymers.
4000+ credit per ton easily.
Thing is I don't want to be told what to buy, I want to learn how to find out what to buy.
after weeks or playing with no problems last couple of days game have suddenly become really stuttering and not smooth at all.
Anyone else have had this problem and any idea how to fix it?
No lag issues ce soir, and that's with Mrs Pondo streaming shit TV too.
Good point, the internet have been a bit funny lately I was worried it was my graphics card dying slowly but could be lag spikes on the connection.
Just installed EDcompanion on my phone bow I can find my ships without docking at a station with a shipyard lol
On the one hand...
Mining is boring.
On the other...
Thing is I don’t want to be told what to buy, I want to learn how to find out what to buy.
... a bit of Google equals 1 million+ per ton. Does that make up for yhe boredom? Does for me.
Did a Matt today - pottered around, got the sol permit. Got the tea and classic collection trophies as well.
Took photos of a slightly flooded UK.
Went looking for the planet that gave me the Kepler's eye trophy - screen shot on PS4 suggested something, but getting there said it was discovered and mapped by other people
Earned a shed load of ark coins in the process.
It was great.
On the other…
Thing is I don’t want to be told what to buy, I want to learn how to find out what to buy.
… a bit of Google equals 1 million+ per ton. Does that make up for the boredom? Does for me.
This is the point for me. If you want nice things you need to pay for them with a bit of boredom.
Matt
I've already given up and used Google to make credits. But I'd like to learn how to trade well just for the sake of playing the game. If I want credits I can go back to Borann.
I LIKE the Fer De Lance! 🙂
The only thing i'm not keen on is the off centre cockpit, the frame lining on the right hand side just throws me off when flying, aiming and coming out of stations.
Tweaked my Python's mining build last night, swapped one collector for more storage, upgraded the other collector to 5A - only three colkector limpets, but now they live a bit longer and have better range. It's a bit slower but feels much less frantic - I'm not sitting waiting for a limpet to die to fire another one into action for maximum efficiency, and I must have binned 20 or 30 to free up cargo space. 🙂
You're never going to get rich, but biowaste can have a great margin if you find the right system combination. The only problem is that you are making a 400% margin on 80cr/t
When I'm in the Cobra I like to try and work out what will make a profit in the next system based on economy, government and state. I reckon I'm successful about 40% of the time. Sometimes it's a good job I only have 32t!
Matt
I’ve already given up and used Google to make credits. But I’d like to learn how to trade well just for the sake of playing the game. If I want credits I can go back to Borann.
Yes, very laudable.
Now lets imagine its the year 3306 and the Galaxy is full of pilots flying around exploring and trading things. Some of these pilots form a group and chat to each other about where the best interstellar bars are, which systems have nice views and what obscure commodity from a list of around 100 is good to trade!
You can of course get all this info using the trading tools in the Galaxy map, but you would need to use trial and error to find the most profitable commodities as the game doesn't flag them and there are a lot of different commodities to look through.
So these interstellar bars......
Matt
@richmtb it's not about principles, I'd just like to know all the things the game does. As mentioned before, and as I'm coming to realise, it's not just about credits. In many ways, being able to make shitloads from LTDs frees you up to enjoy the rest of it.
I've put in a few hours lately. Still hopping around in a Cobra mk3. Just been running missions and exploring.
Current rank Harmless, Surveyor, Dealer IIRC.
Now I have the cash I've started taking kill missions and more than once cocked up the weapon grouping. Find target line up, press fire... Oops no power or wrong mode.
Hate the console type controls on the pc too, but getting used to them
Other gotchas like space stations that take an hour and a half to get to, which would explain the 600000 payment to drop in a couple of boxes.
Live and learn.
Very relaxing game to kill some Furlough time though.
So these interstellar bars……
Matt
Well i need to find some Lavian Brandy to unlock an engineer so I'll let you know if i have any spare. I've been searching for a decent Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster but no luck so far!
For the next engineer unlock I need to get allied with a faction in Eurybia, this is pretty fun as its an Anarchy system, so i can basically go around shooting anyone I don't like the look of so i spent most of the game zooming round in my Cheiftain indulging in a bit of "pew pew" and "dakka dakka"
Back to Ray Gateway to hop into the Cobra, then it's off to Shinrarta for me. 'Cause the first time you dock at Jameson Memorial, you gotta be in a Mk III, right? 🙂
I kind of live at Jameson Memorial now, but I'm not sure if I'm happy about it. Seems like a cop out just docking there rather than scoping out my own "home station"
It'll do until I get bored of it. 🙂 I'm sure I came across quite a pretty station out Maia way, based in an asteroid - might use that once I've got all the stuff I want. 🙂
I have a lot of engineering unlocking to do. Easier whilst I am still Mostly Harmless.
The only thing i’m not keen on is the off centre cockpit, the frame lining on the right hand side just throws me off when flying, aiming and coming out of stations.
Yeah, I agree - not great. But otherwise it looks good, sounds good, flies good - and kills pretty good. 😀
This gets a bit stressful at times doesn’t it. Lost 43t of LTD when something glitched on landing when I arrived to sell. My wife didn’t understand when I said I’d lost a day’s work 🙂 Went back to Borann, mined another load, then got interdicted twice just before coming out of FSD ready to sell my 54t at 1.7m a ton. Managed to run and jump, and dock and sell, but only by the skin of my teeth. I think I might have cried if I’d lost it all again.
Heh! I know that fear... 🙂
My mining Krait Mk2 has no docking computer.. don't press the wrong button...
My Python doesn't, either - actually quite refreshing to have to "fly" the whole thing. 🙂
(Rest of the fleet are automated to the max 🙂 )
I don't really bother with a docking computer, on most builds I'm using the space for something else. I tend to keep the Supercruise assist on builds where I may be out of the bubble, to leave the ship in orbit.
I have pressed the wrong button in the past and boosted into the end wall of the station!
Matt
Docking computer, what's that? Mine got flung out the airlock at the first opportunity, only useful if you're utterly shit faced. In which case you have no business docking anyway so...
Two things - one, time is money, amd two, sometimes an expedient landing is required (see previous "close to death from lack of oxygen" posts 🙂 ).
I always found it slowed things down, if you could turn it on and off for the final shove through the mail slot I'd reconsider.
Now hit my dogleg, I checked the map and was about to hit fuel problems so decided to see if I could plot to my final destination. I can! Only 108* jumps to go!
*ignoring fuel detours, this is going to be mostly by eye.
The docking computer boosts you all the way through the process. If you are flying like that around the station on manual you deserve a ticket!
Docking here - can pay more attention to missus.
Filled the python with ltd, wasn't stopped once legging it 120ly...
Must be bank holiday or something.
All the cmdrs are at Wolf 397, I've seen 4 tonight. Plenty of npc pirates as well.
Matt
I did most of my trading grind in a python without a docking computer. I think I would have got very bored without having to physically land the ship. I did get very proficient at planetary landings as a result
Molgrips I'm on PC, I don't have to do MK style 18 button combos. I just fling my landing gear down and hit the hotkey for thrusters to zero. Sure, sometimes I make an arse of it on settlements and miss the pad or fly in the wrong way but I'm off it in as much time as it takes to get my nose up and hit the boosters.
700
Anything I need to use the srv to mine in planet surfaces?
Nope. Just follow the scanner and shoot things
Bought a Krait Mk2 on an impulse. Not sure what to do with it as I’ve already got a Python I’m not using. Should I strip the Python and use the Krait for bounty hunting? Seems it might be a touch more agile and it has an SLF
Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but just found Elite Dangerous inc Horizons reduced on xbox to £13 via the MS store for Game pass users
Went on a bit of a spending spree and bought a Vulture and a Krait MkII
I'm going to use the Vulture to mess around with different weapons. I've not really tried anything but Beams and MCs so I'll mess around with Rails and plasma accelerators.
I'll build up the Krait as a bounty hunter and leave my python as a miner / armed trader.
Need to do some mining now to pay for all this!
I like my Krait but I haven't had chance to fight with it much. When mining, the pirates scanned me then buggered off, perhaps not knowing that I didn't have any weapons!
I've got 2x large MCs, 1x large burst laser, 1x medium beam and some missiles. The lasers are grouped to strip shields and the MCs are grouped with the burst laser to deal damage after shields are gone.
Not had anyone to fight yet though! Messed about at a nav beacon and found some loser in a Keelback who tried to fight me. Yeah lol thanks for calling.
I was out pirate bashing in my Vulture last night and seem to have sorted the canopy issue. I got involved in some intense fights (a T10 and a couple of two man wings) and not even a crack. I finished with hull down in the 50% region, but only went home when I ran out of ammo (got back to base and realised I could have synthesised more!). I have added a class 2 module protection, which may (the debate is lively it seems) improve the strength. The other thing is to make more effort to avoid head to head combat. Another 20 points to competent!
Matt
Large MCs don't half take a long time to spin up though...
I think my Chieftain's main weakness is the current load out takes ages to strip shields.
I'm using 2 small beams, 1 small burst laser, 1 medium MC with corrosive and 2 large MC with autoloader.
I think the balance is too far toward kinetic damage.
I might swap one of the large MCs for a large beam and stick the corrosive MC in a small hardpoint
Large beams rip shields (certainly NPC ones), I have one large beam and a large MC in the Vulture. I think there's a rule of thumb that two of a lower class are approximate to one of the higher. So my large beam is about double your two smalls. I'd ditch the burst for something else and chuck a large beam in.
@molgrips get your finger on the trigger as they are coming into the window, that way the shells start flying just as the gimbal aligns.
Matt
A medium beam is ace for shield stripping, I had 1 medium and 1 small, and it stripped shields on most of my targets in a couple of seconds. I have a hull damage fire group and a shield damage fire group. So I strip shields then switch to the other fire group and plug away. My battles became vastly more effective once I started learning about how the weapons effect the enemies - I think they will become better still when I finish learning about them 🙂
This is the key I think. At this point I think I understand the basics of the two simplest forms of kinetic and thermal weapons!
Matt
Leaving combat as I'm terrible at it.
In the srv I set a heading towards an object, did a bit of surface mining and then headed back to the ship to find it had gone.
Slightly worried and frantically googling to discover the srv has hidden commands, one being ship recall.
Phew.
1 lump of arsenic mind.
I'm not finding a lot of places with anything to mine.
@Saccades your best bet is to find planets with geological signals, then refine that where the list of elements includes arsenic. Most planets have 5-6 plus signals, some have 44!
Once one geo signal contains the element you are looking for, chances are they all will.
I found a load of arsenic in Biological signals (same thing but fewer per planet usually) out in musca dark/coalsack, probably only 10 jumps if you have good range.
Musca Dark Region BL-X C1-0
Coalsack Sector EL-Y D53 A 1 A
Coalsack Sector HW-V B2-8 2
Coalsack Sector ZZ-Y C15 6 C
It was before I started fully characterising them so don't know which one gave which elements, but there will definitely be some rares. I will be going back soon (in a week) to fully catalogue so will let you know then.
Matt #spreadsheet****er
Nowt wrong with a good spreadsheet - ruled a fleet with one bitd.
Will give those places a go tonight sometime, meteor shower to watch tonight!
All you guys who have bought Kraits. They look like great ships, constantly turning inside my Vulture and dealing plenty of damage, a bit too much in some cases!
Plenty of firsts this afternoon, first elite kill, thanks security for the back-up, first re-arm in the middle of a dogfight and first interdiction chasing the last pirate for a massacre mission.
Matt
Krait is pretty cool so far. I was expecting it to be not very manoeverable, cos most of the larger ships seem not to be - but it's ok, I think I have 6C thrusters on currently. Seems to get a little more of a turn boost if you actually accelerate whilst turning.
Another cool thing is that the medium hardpoints are either side of the cockpit so you can see the weapons 🙂
I think the Krait turns well, the only thing to consider is that the hull is not as strong as other 'similar' ships. It's never going to be an indestructible monster. Keep in the blindspots.
Matt
Jeepers, you guys are all a bit...shooty, aren't you? Makes me kind of glad I'm still about 2000-2500 jumps away from getting back to the bubble! 🙂
I have to admit, that I like to turn the tables, when some scurvy pirate inderdicts me, but I'm not really sure what aspect of the game I like best. Tonight is drunken mining, it's been than kind of day!
Matt
Jeepers, you guys are all a bit…shooty, aren’t you?
Not really, I don't hunt bounties (except the dark chocolate ones), and I don't do combat zones very often. I do missions for cash, but personal protection is required especially if you want the decent money. I am searching out some action now though cos I'm refining the loadout of my Krait. I don't have enough power for 3x large beams currently so it's back to a large MC.
I keep flicking through the passenger missions, and hankering after a Beluga.