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was on a train up in scotland and this old ticket guy wouldn't leave me alone, kept accusing me of having the wrong ticket but his eyesight must've been failing him as i definitely had a return despite him accusing me of having a single. to make it even worse he didnt ask any other people on the train to check the ticket, just kept accusing me... so worse case scenario i should get a fine that i could then argue against by providing the right ticket yeah? nope, no following of the official policies or procedures! some fat guy got up from a few seats away and assaulted me, actually threw me off the train!!! in the struggle i dropped my ticket so no chance of me being able to prove i had the right one 🙁
instead of trying to protect me from being assaulted the other passengers actually applauded the guy who assaulted me.
i'm furious, what should i do??
EDIT - why are public transport users so quick to blame anybody younger than them and always assume we're up to something? i was on the train to visit my nan in hospital and i didnt exactly kick up a fuss about the smelly old homeless guy 2 seats away.... i wasnt hurting anybody, i wasn't in the wrong, so why should i be hurt?!
Read this thread, I reckon:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/no-ticket
🙂
Fred's stirring up the usual suspects
Possibly get the coach back home ??
You should have stabbed him in the face.
i was tempted to use my mate stanley i must admit, but being a considerate young man i decided to not escalate it from the already unnecessary escalation to violence from the fat guy! what kinda example was he setting for everyone else on the train?? physically assault people and get a round of applause?
All about the tattoo, innit?
I think I saw some crim who was tattooed and now I think that all tattooed people are criminals or fare dodgers or baby robin killers, made even worse if they're younger.
I fought in the war to maintain freedoms you the right to............
Nice bit of perspective shown there PhilC
maybe if youd have had tried to explain your situation without swearing all the time and generally being a tool there might have been a different outcome 😉
Your mistake was to get on the train in the first place. You should have been a good little consumer and bought an audi, then brimmed it with the tears or iraqi children.
And they have closed the other thread ???
LOL @ the usual muppets on the original thread getting it closed.
Reminds me of the Rock'em Sock'em robots in Toy Story.
Except I think they have better social skills 😉
its not swearing, i was in scotland.... there's no such thing as swearing in scotland. did you not noticed we named our weather system after a scrotum?
Would you have been so agreable if you'd been disabled phil? I hear they can get pretty aggro...
Offer to pay for the ticket instead of lying though your pathetic little face?
Would you have been so agreable if you'd been disabled phil? I hear they can get pretty aggro...
I see you have yet to demonstrate the ability to put together a well-constructed argument.
Your mistake Phil was to shout and swear at the old bloke and adopt a [i]"whit ye gonnae dae abit it"[/i] line that is a very common lead up to a fight (thus allowing the fat bloke to use reasonable force to eject you and protect the fellow passengers).
If you'd just kept it civil and argued your case politely and calmy then it would have all been sorted out and you would have got to see your nan.
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i've got a childs face.... care to revise your comment dezzy? 😈 careful now 😛
So it could have been a CHILD'S FACE 😯 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reading the closed thread - it amazes me how people get so passionate about a little internet debate! 😯
"never in the field of internet fora have so many threads been closed by the argumentative nature of so few."
Winston Churchill, 2011
ransos - MemberWould you have been so agreable if you'd been disabled phil? I hear they can get pretty aggro...
I see you have yet to demonstrate the ability to put together a well-constructed argument.
Now who's making insults. Have a laugh, please. 🙄
my nan fought (in the war) and died (whilst i was being held down by a fat scottish bloke) for your right to say that GrahamS
Is there a problem here?
Reading the closed thread - it amazes me how people get so passionate about a little internet debate!
I'm amazed people claim to care so much about petty fare dodging. The same people are no doubt quite happy to habitually break the speed limit, or jump the lights.
It's not a little internet debate, it's their opportunity to show the whole world how great they are.
"never in the field of internet fora have so many quotes been made up by so few."
Michael Jackson, 2011
Now who's making insults. Have a laugh, please
It's not an insult, it's an observation. When you have learned the difference between the two, you may be closer to making a well-constructed argument. 😉
Wouldn't it'd've been great if Scottish Dappy had smacked him in the nuts?
Of Phil, forgot to say, Nice Hat!
just been assaulted
Call that being assaulted, I've seen rougher treatment from Grandparents to children, you soft wee shite 😉
Seriously, if you call that assault, you have led a very sheltered life, as that was closer to being touched up, than beaten up.
ransos - Do you really not understand why the other thread was closed? 🙄
Just to pull it back to the OP for a moment:
i'm furious, what should i do??
Think of a better strategy in case it happens again. Move on. Possibly to Swinley, where I will see you if it's on a Saturday...
I wish i had never posted that bloody video!!
[i]I wish i had never posted that bloody video![/i]
Are you new here?
ransos - MemberNow who's making insults. Have a laugh, please
It's not an insult, it's an observation. When you have learned the difference between the two, you may be closer to making a well-constructed argument.
Of course the winking smily makes it ok to say what you like doen't it.
Taken from the East Midlands Trains website "Fare evasion costs the rail industry £200 million a year"
How much would our train tickets cost us if that figure was reduced? Perhaps next time scum will think twice about not buying a ticket? Also why should ordinary fare paying passengers be forced to subsidise the non payers?
Your previous argument about speeding isn't really relevant, as I cant see that if I sped by 1mph that it costs other road users anything?
ransos - Do you really not understand why the other thread was closed?
Yes: some people got very angry when asked some perfectly civil questions.
its still technically assault
is fare dodging a crime? if so it's not assault due to the fact that as a member of the public you have a duty to make an attempt to stop a crime if you see it in progress this includes using reasonable force. you could actually be prosecuted if you do nothing - similar to aiding and abetting.
[i]Yes: some people got very angry when asked some perfectly civil questions.[/i]
Like where's your ticket sonny?
i'm furious, what should i do??
Hope someone has posted the incident on youtube, find it, then get the big man arrested for assault.
I'm with Elfin and TJ on this one! Why was the other thread closed then?
my nan fought (in the war) and died (whilst i was being held down by a fat scottish bloke) for your right to say that GrahamS
She must have made an amazing recovery for you to be visiting her in hospital then 🙂
Why was the other thread closed then?
cos of the same arguments that are starting to develop on this one 🙁 which i hope the mods will remember i started this before the other one was closed not in response to the other one being closed.
do you get a ban if you start a thread that gets locked? 🙂
It was put down because that was the kindest thing for it and the posters on it.
Won't somebody think of the posters?
No, but you get locked if you start a ban that gets threaded.
