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WTF?
Where on earth did that come from?
The BBC got exactly what it wanted from it's let's dumb down everything policy AND in JBs first answer. Makes you wonder if the whole thing wasn't scripted.
Really poor show last night other than the twitter response data which is no doubt off the scale! The production team will be pleased.
He was invited on because he's controlversial. Hard to imagine that it wasn't scripted and the panellists are given the questions in advance. With Piers Morgan on too that must be the most obnoxious QT panel ever.
What was said by the ever enlightening genius?
Saw it last night, couldn't help but cringe. Don't understand why he was invited on it, has he ever had a relevant comment on any subject?
He referred to voting Ukip as worse than 4 ugly girls!
I tuned in, saw Barton, Morgan and a Ukipper and decided going to bed would be a better option.
Was worse than that iirc, need to find a link to it.
Did he not suggest that voting ukip was like picking the least to ugly of 4 ugly girls. Was the way he turned a seemed to look pointedly at the ukip lady when he said the last bit.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, was too busy cringing!
He referred to voting Ukip as worse than 4 ugly girls!
So letting UKIP off lightly then....
[i]"So if I am somewhere and there were four really ugly girls I'm thinking 'well, she's not the worst', because that is all you are, that is all you are to us."[/i]
Oh dear, am I wrong to agree with him?
Lasted the first sentence switched off and went to bed. Hope Dimbleby gets a another tattooo - NEVER AGAIN
Oh dear, am I wrong to agree with him?
No you're not. Can't quite see what the outrage is all about, he could have worded it better, and apologised when he was pulled up about his metaphor.
Actually not a bad metaphor. They're both happy with the attention.
I did have to Google "Joey Barton" though.
Just to be clear, I didn't go for the "ugliest girl"; I left the club and looked in a nice wine bar.
Footballer Joey Barton has apologised after describing UKIP as the best of "four really ugly girls".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27633347
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Does this mean Joey Barton is gay? And partially sighted?
The last 2 posts have gone right over my head.
Made me 😆
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What worried me most was that piers morgan and joey barton had the moral high ground over a former PM of our country 😯
How fr we have fallen.
Not the worst metaphor you will ever hear and he did apologise for it
It depends do you want media savvy politicians answers or someone who says stuff like that?
If you pillory him for this then dont moan why you get "proper politicians" and their sterile answers.
Personally i dont think it is a great choice of words but I know what he meant and it is not massively offensive IMHO
Maybe it's because he said it to a woman and people don't really understand metaphors?
I’d rather QT allocate their guest wild card to a social commentator who’s a little more savvy about matters than the likes of Joey. Next week it will be the musings of some TOWIE extra.
I thought what he said was fairly tame.
I really don't think what he said was that bad, it was a hypothetical metaphor not aimed at anyone personally
Maybe it's because he said it to a woman and people don't really understand metaphors?
Richard Scudamore is on next week! 😉
Poor choice of metaphor but a valid comment other than that.
I can't see why the BBC had him on, he's a viscous little thug and in any other profession he wouldn't be employable never mind have his opinion sought out.
I guess QT is following the way of the newspapers and going for 'clickbait' controversy over analysis that adds value
he's a viscous little thug
I don't know if he's the fastest runner, but that seems a bit unfair
My opinion: The irony is, his choice of language can be excused as it was indeed intended as a harmless metaphor, but his choice of language is very basic and he struggles to compile and finish his sentences with conviction. Why was he on this show?
He and piers have history on twitter which is why both were on the programme. It was a daft comment, he was probably nervous and said the first thing that came to him. Shame, the rest of the programme he was no worse or better than 99% of the more savvy political elite/commentators/establishment/usual suspect mouthpieces that get invited on
I've not seen the clip yet but the metaphor, whats wrong with it? If he said that hats off to him.
whats wrong with saying the least ugliest of 4 ugly women? Are we trying to be too sensitive to everyone now?!
in any other profession he wouldn't be employable never mind have his opinion sought out.
Are you really claiming that noone who has ever committed a violent act ever gets employment anywhere - SHould i value your opinion now above his?
FWIW he did a fairly eloquent interview on 5 live where he explained why he reacted like that when he was younger and explained how he learnt to deal with it. IMHO it was really rather informative. It was almost as if his own personal experience gave him an insight that was worth listening to. Who would have thunk it
I am not his greatest fan mind
I honestly can't see what the fuss is about. Some people must lead very sheltered lives to be offended by Barton's metaphor - or alternatively they must actively look for things to offended by. Hmmmm.
I think I'm more 'offended' that UKIP have managed to get yet more publicity 😮
Exactly. Its almost a race to handwring over anything and pander to redtops sensationalism.
If I was the UKIP lady I think I'd have answered 'I dont know whether to thank you for the compliment or slap you' as a quip back. Blatantly it wasn't a quip at HER, but an metaphor about the parties.
OK the next procurement meeting I'm in I'll table it as a way of comparing suppliers -
HIghest price - Bella Emberg
Middle price - Bianca from Eastenders
Lowest Price - Carol Vorderman
see you at the jobcentre
I'm amazed he wasn't wearing glasses to make him more intaleckshull.
People seem to be getting upset about this, but they didn't worry when joey Barton stubbed a cigar out on a junior players eye....
Seriously, why is the BBC giving exposure to a violent thug.
Seriously, why is the BBC giving exposure to a violent thug
You do realise the BBC employs people like Clarkson?
Clarkson's a violent thug? You sure about that?!
fuss about nothing - could have said UKIP are like gonorrhoea, best of the worst STD
could have said UKIP are like gonorrhoea, best of the worst STD
isn't Chlamydia better? Apparently it's more popular...
you know you've got the clap unlike Chlamydia
I tuned in, saw Barton, Morgan and a Ukipper and decided going to bed would be a better option.
This. Odious human beings the lot of them.
Clarkson?
That didn't take very long 🙄
Is there a new version of Godwin's Law for this ?
The BBC has had it's hand forced really. If you just had the present crop of bland anodyne career politicians on, they'd just sit there repeating sound bites about 'hard working families', and quoting statistics at each other. Then about 3 people would watch it.
Therefore, when you think about it, Joey Barton is actually a metaphore for modern society
And if you think what he said was offensive, you've clearly never been properly offended! What mind of bedwetter regards a statement like that as offensive? Except the type the world now appears to be full of? The professionally offended, who seem to spend their sad, petty, joyless lives looking for the next thing to be outraged about 🙄
Interesting that isn't it? Being offensive no longer gets you noticed. Being offended does.
And if you think what he said was offensive, you've clearly never been properly offended! What kind of bedwetter regards a statement like that as offensive?
+ lots.
And if you think what he said was offensive, you've clearly never been properly offended!
Amen to that!
TBH I think the BBC should be apologising for the choice of panel, Barton's got nowt to apologise for. On this one occasion anyway, he's probably got 10 million things to apologise for otherwise 😉
Thats the best form of defence it seems- be offended, make yourself sound more offended and it makes the person sound like a **** for daring to say it to you.
Binners you really do sicken and disgusts me. I'm vomiting into my bin by my desk here just thinking of the outrageous of your being.
Adopts the Junkyard defence:
What if he'd punched her in the face on live TV? Would it be ok to be offended then?
(Only jokin junky 😉 )
you leave our plastic socialists alone. Junky and binners need protection and respect not your slander or my sycophancy.
His address to the UKipper would have been better delivered with a French accent.
SO it's not [/s]mysoginy[s] [/s]misoginy[s] [/s]msysgony[s] sexism then?
No, it's uglyism
He called another teams player in the French league an overweight ladyboy
Sorry 😆 I'm warming to him.
Is he apologising to all of the ugly girls in the world, just those who were offended, just those who use twitter or just those who follow him on twitter?
It's proper complicated.
Never mind that he thinks that Ukip are prettier than all the other main parties!
[i]Never mind that he thinks that Ukip are prettier than all the other main parties![/i]
Hmm. From what I recall of the Mirror's video (and I am not watching it again to check), he wasn't speaking for himself with that metaphor, but for the people who did vote UKIP.
(Although he may well do for all I know)
He has come out with some classic one liners on twitter, he made one about needing Isambard Kingdom Brunel to help rebuild bridges with Newcastle that had me chuckling.
I also read an interview with him a few years ago, where is stated how he regretted the way being immersed in football from a young age had ruined his education. He does seem fairly self aware and knows his shortcomings, but doesn't quite have the ability to express himself as well as he would like.
He's still a **** though.
Never mind that he thinks that Ukip are prettier than all the other main parties!
.. he just they weren't the ugliest, not that they were the prettiest.
Keep up 😉
Lol
I actually think he made a very valid point in an amusing way. Many people have turned to UKIP as being the lesser evil of the main parties.
I'm agreeing wholeheartedly with numbers on this. Though I can't believe he fed a vegan a cheeseburger rather than a steak bake.
A little bit of the BBC died last night.
Barton is a halfwit, but that is not in itself a problem. The major issue he is a halfwit with delusions of grandeur. He has a bit of a messiah complex as well. Ironically it is a scouse term that describes him most accurately - gobshite.
Piers Morgan is not a halfwit. But he dedicates whatever limited intelligence he may possess exclusively into being a self-aggrandising shit. I really could spend at least a whole week punching his fat, smug face.
I really hope David Dimbleby at least put up some kind of objection to having these two tossers on QT, but then having put up with elected halfwits for god knows how long he probably can't be arsed any more. It doesn't take a genius to work out why Paxman gets so hacked off with it.
There are many politicians and pundits who are worthy of being given a platform. Some who's ideas I disagree with, but I respect their ability to think.
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I've got 4 daughters, I wonder which one he'd think was UKIP, tbh I'd never heard of him he sounded like a scouser wendyballer so his opinion was of no consequence to me and anyway I'd dozed off at that point, but tell me what's the difference between him and those Opera critics that called that singer squat and fat, it's just a symptom of society today.
In return he took an insult about footballers' intellect and apologised for his comment. Don't see what all the fuss is about.
Maybe it's because he said it to a woman and people don't really understand metaphors?
He should try an analogy to meat eaters on a vegan thread 😉
Did you know that Joey Barton is vegan?
If you start answering my questions I will answer yours 😉