[Closed] Jimmy Carr and Tax

crap jokes

are you certain about that..?

The 'what's worse than biting into an apple and finding a worm..?' joke was pretty ground breaking.. probably worth a good few hundred thousand alone

I don't know how he has amassed a £3million fortune telling the crap jokes that he does.

Well a wild guess is that unlike you a great many people find him highly amusing and he has been very successful as a comedian ?

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all will be forgotten (much like his comedy)

I still clearly remember the first I ever saw him doing stand up, many years ago. I thought who is this **** making jokes about African kids moving closer to a river so that they wouldn't have to walk so far for water, or how he felt Tesco must be overcharging him if his week's shopping bill would pay to feed an African family for a year. His more recent Paralympic joke is hard to forget too. Yep, he's given me some very memorable jokes, certainly more than most comedians.

Anyway, it's [i]"Vehicle Excise Duty"[/i]... not Carr Tax.

Well a wild guess is that unlike you a great many people find him highly amusing and he has been very successful as a comedian ?

Or even inherited it/been given handouts from daddy.

Yes that's possible. Is that what happened then ?

Anyway, it's "Vehicle Excise Duty"... not Carr Tax.

Or even inherited it/been given handouts from daddy.

Is he also a cabinet member then?

So what your saying is the greater the number of people like something the better it is? Maybe its actually the greater the number of people like something the lower the common denominator; or the more senseless it is.

No doubt he is good at what he does; that does not mean what he does is good though.

So what your saying is the greater the number of people like something the better it is?

If that's directed at me I merely gave you a possible explanation with regards to your comment : "I don't know how he has amassed a £3million fortune telling the crap jokes that he does". I haven't made any comment about something being better than something else.

Although DS seems to think that his success might down to inheritance and handouts from daddy.

Yes that's possible. [b]Is that what happened then ?[/b]

Is he also a cabinet member then?

Although DS seems to think that his [s]success[/s] wealth might down to inheritance and handouts from daddy.

already done on page 1 or 2, sorry graham

Dammit. Always last to the party.

I don't know if that's what happened or not, but it's nice to see you thinks it's possible that his multi-millionaire father might have contributed in some way to his wealth.

Well of course it's possible. It's also possible that he might have stolen it - I don't know how he got his money.

I did say that my suggestion he had made £3 million from being a successful comedian was just a "wild guess". Thanks for offering other possible alternatives.

Thanks for offering other possible alternatives.

I'm always struggling until you come along with your well thought out comments. Thanks once again.

I'm always struggling until you come along with your well thought out comments.

Yes that's possible. Is that what happened then ?

Yes that's possible. Is that what happened then ?

To go from a possibility to an absolute is quite a bizarre thought process

Yes it is. Is that what happened, then?

I hadn't realised that one had to pass the ernesto scoring system before being able to comment.

No I hadn't either.

Your constant twisting and deliberate misinterpetation would indicate that are quite desperate to prove some point or other.

Oh is that what I've done ........I took your [i]"Or even inherited it/been given handouts from daddy"[/i] comment and twisted it and deliberately misinterpreted it ?

Ah well, I guess it's just what I do 😀

Asking a closed question to get the answer that suits you rather than accepting a suggestion/possibility from another person isn't twisting then?
I guess that's just what you do. 😥

TOOOO UNNERD!

Dunno, I think I could quite easily say these [s]tax[/s] slavery rules are a load of bobbins and should be reformed ASAP but while others are legally "getting away with it" I'd have* a [s]bit of that too [/s] number of those slaves too.

Still happy with your argument/point?
If you think it is wrong and cannot be justified then dont do it....you run the risk of being a petty bourgoise if you do apparently.

Ernie it is entirely flase to say I have misinterpreted your view – I simply quoted what you said and you have repeated the same claim/view in each post you reply to. Its obvious you think the tax loopholes cannot be justified but despite this you will do/use the thing you cannot justify.

I guess that's just what you do. 😥

Yep. I just don't care.......I'm a right nasty ****er 8)

Stop being flase.

Still happy with your argument/point?

tax is one of the slightly less morally bankrupt issues, closer to my examples (imo)

But I'll admit it's contentious.

plenty of other examples I could use which aren't quite as emotive

Re transport it would be like not wearing a helmet whilst arguing for compulsion ...no one has come up with that mad an argument not even on here 😀

Yes it is contentious and I agree tax avoidance is less worse than keeping slaves.

The tax laws as they are intended do seem particularly unfair to someone like Jimmy though due to his very short period of high earning potential.

Assuming he made his £3 mil evenly over 10 years; he could have paid (very) roughly £1.2 mil in tax, but that is his entire lifetimes earnings squashed into 10 years.

Someone with a regular career who also has a lifetime earnings potential of £3 million but over 45 years will pay a lot less tax.

Therefore I don't think may people would begrudge Jimmy if he'd gone down the pay via a company route. Pay himself the eqivalent wage of a longer career every year to equalise his tax liability to that of someone with a regular job with the odd dividen thrown in along the way.

The K2 stuff does seem to be taking the piss a bit though but it is up to the government to close the loophole though, rather than villify people in the media.

I agree tax avoidance is less worse than keeping slaves

I like Mr Carr's work and I hate tax, almost as much as I hate Cameron two faced hypocrisy far more.

The tax laws as they are intended do seem particularly unfair to someone like Jimmy though due to his very short period of high earning potential.

Will he be incapable of other work if his comedy career ends? Or will he, you know, have to manage like everyone else who didn't have a 3 million quid headstart?

apologies if this has been answered (i've not read the whole thread).

Why did cameron pick jimmy carr, there must be scores of people who avoid tax is this any many other ways.

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Why did cameron pick jimmy carr, there must be scores of people who avoid tax is this any many other ways.

Presumably he thought lots of people don't like him. Which is why he's so cagey about Gary Barlow.

And how many of you lot wouldn't?
It's income tax that is immoral.
You couldn't have go at GB after all that stuff that was on the telly.

Big supporter of the Tories, Mr Barlow.

Lovin' his latest tune:

Why did cameron pick jimmy carr

The Times did the original piece naming Jimmy Carr, then as I understand it a BBC reporter asked Cameron what he thought of Carr's tax arrangements. The rest is [s]a very long STW thread[/s] history.

Has anyone pointed out yet that Camerons family fortune is built on tax avoidance - on a scale that makes Carrs look like nothing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/20/cameron-family-tax-havens

to say nothing of a whole line of tories - Ashcroft for example who is also a liar saying he would become UK resident but then didn't.

suprisingly plans to publish minsters tax afairs seem to have been shelved

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I'd be much more impressed if Call-Me-Dave had named and shamed this Monaco dwelling tax evasion expert.

But hang on ...... [url= http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/08/vince-cable-tempted-comment ]Oops sorry apparently he works for Dave[/url]

hes done nowt illegal has he, i only wish i could be in a position to do the same.

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Hmmm - mirror group newspapers throwing round accusations of tax dodging...

interesting one that, considering what they got done for:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/lex/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:61998J0409:EN:HTML

Didn't the Mirror also champion this fine man of the [s]people[/s] legal tax avoiding classes?

[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ken-livingstones-the-best-man-for-london-814936 ]Has he published yet? [/url]

Well I think that robert maxwell was a bit of a dodgy geezer too

but i wont hold it against them

(piers morgan on the other hand....)

Whatever the Mirror group may have done, don't you think it's good that someone is pointing out Cameron's breathtaking hypocrisy on this issue? Also, do you really think its on to comment on an individual's tax affairs (Cameron has previously said its wrong btw making him even more of a hypocrite)?

CFH - when you find you're making the same point as Zulu Eleven you probably need to have a little word with yourself. The guy's a loon.

I just cannot believe it there is an article on Tory politicians and Flash makes no comment but links to labour - Ken is my guess - you dont even need to use the link 🙄

FFS flash can you just stop doing this is it pathetic and transparent
Seriously WHY do you do this?

Could you comment on the Tories and their tax avoidance as well as labours.....We all have a political hue but you either support tax avoidance or you oppose it, who does it is is irrelevant..you dont want to look like a lightweight with no integrity attmepting to score glib political points ..... Oh sorry you do dont you 😳

Should CMD also call these folk names or just Carr...any view on the actual point/issue?

Zulu - a sper your point in the Guardian ...does their tax affairs have any impact on the accuracy/truth of this report?

Why do the right whingers just fling mud rather than actually give us their view on this issue when it concerns their party?
I was very explicit about ken ...shame you two cannot even attempt to do this

Junky, he should indeed. My point was that it's rather hard to fling accusations of hypocrisy around when you yourself have a track record of doing just that. Now, the circle goes around both ways, in that Cameron is as guilty of that as the Mirror!

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