the sooner he's replaced by someone who actually knows something about bikes the better.
TBH the world would probably be a better, safer and more environmentally friendly place if all politicos were replaced by bike buffs-ninfan,THM,Jambalaya etc being the exceptions that prove the rule 😉
Now if the story had been that Corbyn had meow meow that would have been interesting...
In fact I didn't even know that Chairman Mao had a bike.
A China-man on a bike, who knew 🙂
Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature
Almost as odd as being on a bike forum and never really talking about bikes....
A China-man on a bike, who knew 🙂
^^That sounds a bit racist. Do you also assume that all Chinese men (Chinaman is a tad offensive) have pigtails and that all Chinese women walk in small quick steps?
The fact that Chairman Mao was a bit portly suggested that he probably didn't do much in the way of exercise, so it never occurred to me that he might have had a bike.
Mind you I've seen some pretty fat bastards riding on bikes so it's not a particularly reliable rule, I'll give you that.
that all Chinese women walk in small quick steps
I thought that they only travelled in great leaps forward?
I posted a link to a Vice News in case THM didn't know what a Chairman Mao bike was. To be fair I didn't know what a Chairman Mao bike was until it was pointed out that Corbyn has one.
I am touched by your concerns about my education. I am now a clever full-wit. Thank you, you're too kind really.
Did you make it out for a ride in the end?
Did you make it out for a ride in the end?
What Leith Hill? That's bank holiday monday, can you make it? Actually I need to get a new tubeless valve tomorrow if I'm going to make it - not used my full suss for a while and one valve was leaking badly when I pumped up the tyre. I'll make a special effort if you can make it though - I could always use the hardtail 🙂
Sadly as before Ernie, I am on family duty this BH weekend. Folk staying so no riding I'm afraid.
Making a link between the Chinese and bicycles in Mao's era is rather obvious no ? Chinaman is a man from China just like I'm an Englishman, also a type of spin bowling.
Hardtail is fine Ernie, I use it for 90% of my Surrey Hills rides. Ride what you've got.
Chinaman is a man from China just like I'm an Englishman, also a type of spin bowling.
No it's not. Chinaman is like England man. Englishman is like Chinese man. Plus Chinaman quite offensive, as well as a type of spin bowling.
And : [i]"Hardtail is fine Ernie, I use it for 90% of my Surrey Hills rides. Ride what you've got"[/i]
I am fully aware of what a hardtail is like on the Surrey Hills, I find it more fun to go down Barry Knows Best on a full suss. I got one of those which is why I like to use it 🙂
China men vs Chinese men I'll take your word for it. England man certainly isn't offensive just poor English. Anyway I wouldn't worry too much aboit that offending a Chinese person, they are pretty thick skinned and freely refer to us an Ang Mo and worse for the Jaoanese.
BKB is better on a hardtail in my opinion as its very pedally and they took out the rooty descent at the end years ago which was the best bit imo.
Anyway I wouldn't worry too much aboit that offending a Chinese person
Well I'm sure you wouldn't. I can't imagine that it's the sort of thing which you worry about.
Yes I know how the end of BKB was sorted out a couple of years ago, but the problem wasn't that the last bit was rooty, it was that the trail just kind of disappeared and had no definitive line. It has now.
Chinaman is a man from China just like I'm an Englishman,
All together now!
Jeremy Corbyn. What a twunt.
Just saying... 😀
Dare to accuse Kevin of being less than truthful..
His basic point seems to be that those British folk who are knighted and then flee to abroad to avoid tax are perhaps not the best examples of our nation and they should be stripped of their title for their actions - more accurately you cannot have it if you do this.
Exactly what of this are you objecting to exactly?
I dont think the campaign group for Phillip Green will be particularly loud or vociferous from any side of the house. Branson, granted, does have much better PR, so is a lot more under the radar.
Seems fairly reasonable that those we "honour" uphold a moral code that most of us think is "fair".
He did not say if you criticise JC then you are stripped.
More of the "new politics" in today's papers..
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corbyn-hit-by-electoral-fraud-row-g2x0ld52b
Still, let's call for Branson to be stripped of his gong and maybe people will get distracted by that..
Branson unlike Green generates wealth of which tens of thousands brits benefit but lets not split hairs. Yes let's strip the nasty rich man of his knighthood.
Ernie. I worked in one of the world's most diverse organisations for 11 years. In my last team I had two Chinese nationals and reported jointly to a Brit and an Egyptian with whom I had a very strong relationship. The main business I ran had people from India, China, Singapore, South Africa, Columbia and Vietnam plus Brits of course. Everyone got along fabulously well.
McDonnell can call for what he likes. He has no power of influence. What he is doing is reinforcing Labour's anti-business crednetials which has historically been terminal for their electoral chances. Really he should have jist kept his mouth shut as he is keeping the #traingate story on the front pages
@just5 yes indeed, addresses of convenience. That Corbyn picture is a classic 🙂
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just5minutes - MemberMore of the "new politics" in today's papers..
You appear to be suggesting that committing electoral fraud is now Labour policy, which is impressively dumb even by the general standard set on this thread.
Committing electoral fraud isn't the "new politics" and if anyone is guilty of it they should be prosecuted, convicted, and punished. Whatever their political persuasion - including any Corbyn supporters.
Unless of course just5minutes you have some sort of evidence that electoral fraud is a deliberate strategy now being pursued by the Labour Party. If so provide it.
jambalaya - MemberErnie. I worked in one of the world's most diverse organisations for 11 years. In my last team I had two Chinese nationals and reported jointly to a Brit and an Egyptian with whom I had a very strong relationship. The main business I ran had people from India, China, Singapore, South Africa, Columbia and Vietnam plus Brits of course. Everyone got along fabulously well.
Well that's really great to hear.
But what the **** has that got to do with whether it is acceptable to call a Chinese man a "China-man" ?
I'll answer that question for you........**** all.
His basic point seems to be that those British folk who are knighted and then flee to abroad to avoid tax are perhaps not the best examples of our nation and they should be stripped of their title for their actions
WOw, so it's only taken the Labour Party forty five years to respond to the Rolling Stones and Beatles becoming tax exiles?
WOw, so it's only taken the Labour Party forty five years to respond to the Rolling Stones and Beatles becoming tax exiles?
Most people have noticed that Jeremy Corbyn has been leader for 12 months not 45 years.
But I take it from your use of the term "Wow" that this might come as a bit of a surprise to you.
Phew. Glad we're back on track after all that Chairperson Meow leaping bicycles distraction.
So O'Dobbin has abandoned pleading yearningly for unity and just opted for tactical distraction.
Won't disguise the comedy car-crash value of his party take-over attempt either.
Most people have noticed that Jeremy Corbyn has been leader for 12 months not 45 years.
Which makes it all the more surprising that he never mentioned the issue previously doesn't it? He's has 12 months as leader (and two leadership campaigns) to come up with the idea, but coincidentally it only appears after one of said tax exiles embarrasses him on a global stage. Almost as if they make up their policies on the hoof to appease the momentum loonies 😆
Ernie you are trying to fabricate a story from nothing .. how very Momentum. I very much doubt there are too many people on STW who've had a broader range of team members than I or who have done as much to advance their careers as have I. Very proud of that record,
No it's not Labour Policy to commit electoral fraud but that's certainly what's going on with Momentum's support and I would say with Corbyn's knowledge. If he's prepared to cover up anti-Semitism then electoral fraud is just another sideline. The whole of Corbyn's leadership looks more and more Stalinist by the day
Sir Richard Branson living in the Caribbean what's wrong with South Shields eh ? Tax status would be the only reason you'd make that choice no ?
which tens of thousands brits benefit but lets not split hairs. Yes let's strip the nasty rich man of his knighthood.
The suggestion was and is that a tax exile be stripped not a rich man- I am not sure why you missed this tbh . Any chance of you addressing the point made?
DO you not think greatness to Britain involves not pissing off to avoid paying tax to the country that , at least partly, made you and your company wealthy?
He employs folk to make money from their labour it was and never will be some sort of charitable act of philanthropy on his behalf.
Stripping him of it would be a bit of a melodramatic gesture and clearly couldn't happen, but it's a contradiction in terms for a tax exile to have a knighthood. Just looks silly and cheapening - It should be an honour reserved for citizens of the UK.enfht - MemberBranson unlike Green generates wealth of which tens of thousands brits benefit but lets not split hairs. Yes let's strip the nasty rich man of his knighthood.
@Gary, so once you become a Knight or have any other honour you can't live abroad ?
Which makes it all the more surprising that he never mentioned the issue previously doesn't it?
He did not mention it someone else did
FFS back to making shit up again
Ernie you are trying to fabricate a story from nothing
well expect the part where you called a chinese man a chinaman and the bit where you failed to accept it was a bit off and potentially offensive and then argued about it
Apart from that yes nothing happens
Basically its a clumsy term dont use it as, clearly, you dont ever want to appear like you are being insensitive to other groups* so dont do it
* except Muslims those we demonise with cheap inaccurate slurs.
Of course you can, and if you continue to pay your taxes you're free to keep your knighthood.jambalaya - Member@Gary, so once you become a Knight or have any other honour you can't live abroad ?
Instructive to look at the US here - where there is no such thing as a tax exile. You could move to N Korea and the IRS would chase you for income tax as long as you held a US passport.
You mean apart from the foreign earned income exclusion and the foreign housing exclusion, and all the other myriad exclusions and deductions that apply?
As an aside, if this hits 10k replies, is it the longest thread on STW?
The suggestion was and is that a tax exile be stripped not a rich man.
But then you let slip with
He employs folk to make money from their labour it was and never will be some sort of charitable act
Nicely sums up socialist logic.
Its non sequitur central here today. Its basic economics [ or the truth] its not "socialism" 🙄 EMployers make money form employees - I a not sure how you managed to be unaware of this "socialism"
I dont blame you for not trying to argue Branson employs folk out the goodness of his heart. Even you can see your premise was false.
You can fail to respond to the question and fail to understand it as much as you please citing facts you think are "socialist", but it only serves to make you look a little dim and a bit trolly
The whole of Corbyn's leadership looks more and more Stalinist by the day
Was Stalin a character in Carry on Comrade?
Another socialist trait, when all else fails shout and throw insults. Maybe call me racist for the triple win?
the tories are grumpy and frightened this morn aye!
this pleases me greatly 🙂
the tories are grumpy and frightened this morn aye!
this pleases me greatly
Really?
Of what?
That there'll die of laughter as the Corbyn Comedy Roadshow stumbles into its next skit?
Seriously, I don't they are frightened of JC in the slightest!
EMployers make money form employees
Only if they run their business well
The ones that don't go bust and leave their employees without jobs
Thereby demonstrating the point its not philanthropy and done only to make money
That for agreeing via extreme pedantry
Another socialist trait, when all else fails shout and throw insults. Maybe call me racist for the triple win?
Excellent a completely random straw man shoot the messenger attack..ok given your highly persuasive argument I take it back you are amongst the greatest thinkers of our age and you are one damn bright charming son of a gun
You failed to grasp the argument/address the point made and your "socialist" point was just me saying the truth everything else is just you being the inner beautiful "you"
What's wrong with making money? Not all MDs are solely in it for the money. Yes it is a major part of course but some actually want to do a good job and provide an excellent service to help others.
+1 What dragon said.
If it was just the money nobody would bother. There is great satisfaction to be gained from building and running a successful business of any size. What makes people think they can understand anyone else's motivation fully, based on reading from newspapers and the Internet? That's quite unfair...
That's quite unfair...
Well, life's unfair isn't it?
Luckily, there's a glorious leader to show us the way to a new, fair society where everyone will be equal!