Jeremy Corbyn

Omnishamlbles, again, it just keeps coming 😉

jambalaya - Member

Seems you are going for the biased / right wing media defence. Or at least a vain attempt to divert attention away from yet another unfolding shambles.

Not at all. I am simply pointing out that the Labour Party is responsible for staging conference, not Jeremy Corbyn.

That'll be the same Labour Party which banned 130,000 members from the leadership contest because they were worried that they might be Corbyn supporters.

Now I can understand why [i]you[/i] might attempt to ridicule Labour over this apparent farce, after all you support the Tories - you are not a Labour supporter.

However binners claims to be a Labour Party member, I have no idea if this true - binners isn't exactly the most reliable source of information.

But if binners is indeed a Labour Party member it's rather strange that he should attack his own party's ability to stage a conference on a public forum. WTF is he doing in the Labour Party if he spending his time on social media attacking the party?

I have no idea if binners does canvassing/election work but if he does what the **** does he tell people on the doorstep - how much he hates the Labour Party?

And to top it all binners actually had the nerve to tell me today that I shouldn't be criticising him because we are [i]"nominally on the same side"[/i] ! 😀

"None of the idiotic shambles happening since Jeremy became leader is the responsibility of Jeremy". 😆 😆 😆

But if binners is indeed a Labour Party member it's rather strange that he should attack his own party's [b]inability[/b] to stage a conference on a public forum

The leadership and MPs of Labour seem intent in attacking their own party in the national media, seems harsh then to have a crack at binners for criticism of them for doing that on a bike forum.

While I'm all for not slagging off your own team, Labour are engaged in civil war.

Well yes, I'm not suggesting that Labour MPs using the media to attack their party is a good thing, if there was a Labour MP posting on here I'm sure I would have mentioned it. Perhaps I should have made that clear.

Mind you I also thought it was clear that the party leader isn't responsible for all that the party does - I didn't think anyone could be that dumb. But presumably Woppit believes it was Corbyn's decision that 130,000 members be banned from the leadership contest because they might support him 😆

Dont forget his svengali like grip on the NEC whereby he is the author of everything they do - I know they have openly opposed him but lets not let the facts get in the way of this absurd RW simpleton narrative

Clearly he is responsible for certain things, perhaps even many, but he is not responsible for everything - the NEC decision or organising the conference being two obvious examples

Morning comrades!

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Larks' tongues....

Wrens' livers....

Chaffinch brains....

Jaguars' earlobes.....

Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely....

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i see the "jokes" are staying original and side splittingly funny

Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar.

Tuscany fried bats.....

Honestly, this is the whole party's fault.

1) Corbynistas for being too zealous
2) Corbyn for not handling it and the party with sufficient skill
3) The PLP for not respecting the party membership and getting on with it.

But they've also done right things as well as wrong things

1) Corbynistas for campaigning for what they believe in.
2) Corbyn for sticking to his guns, fighting for what he believes in and for what the party majority wanted (as is his job)
3) The PLP for trying to save the party's electability.

So it's all a bit of a mess and I don't think we can pin it on Corbyn alone.

Perversely, it is actually in the interests of the NEC/PLP mutineers not to have conference this year. Delegate after delegate from local parties on national telly singing the praises of Corbyn in the run-up to the vote. Corbyn supporters are more active, more organised, more vocal - conference would not make Smith look good.

Isn't it a bit too convenient that the (Smith-backing) GMB gets into a ruck with Showsec in the run-up to conference, with the knowledge that the earlier NEC vote had poisoned the relationship with G4S and that this could be spun as some kind of Corbynite cock-up.

As leadership challenges go, this has been a complete shambles. The rival candidate makes John Major look like a dynamic character. The result appears to be a foregone one.

teamhurtmore - Member

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I would love to meet you THM, I can't believe that a grown man has the level of 'humour' of an adolescent. What makes it all the more bizarre is that you are allegedly educated. Or is it a middle-class thing that I just don't get?

Seriously, I'll probably be at Leith Hill this bank holiday which I believe is close to you, and possibly even closer to Woppit. The village fair will be on at Peaslake we could arrange a time to meet up at say the Hurtwood Inn?

Do I not get an invite then?

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Middle class? How very dare you.

But jokes apart ( 😉 ) a nice idea. A ride would be fun and we could put the world to right on the climbs! Sadly I am on Family Alert all weekend and will not be riding. But have fun. Haven't been to Leith in a while but Holmbury, Pitch and W'fold all in great nick. Sorry not to be able to take the offer up this time.

Honestly, this is the whole party's fault.

+1

You can also add to your list.

4) Millibands reform of the voting system.
5) the MPs who put Corbyn on the ballot even though the didn't want him.

TBH I'm starting to think the whole party might just fail completely at this rate unless someone gets grip. Not having conference would just be the final nail in the coffin. You have to wonder what state the accounts are in, they weren't good before, and Corbyn's anti business stance can't be helping improve them.

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Binners you have to meet me in a northern shit hole - which flat roof pub do you prefer or shall we go classy and go to Witherspoons?

Do I not get an invite then?

shame
you could entertain
with your
silly walks
and
other faded comedy sketches

.....we could put the world to right on the climbs!

Actually it's very rare for me to talk politics on a bike ride. If the conversation goes that way I generally try to steer it away.

@dragon the accounts are massively bolstered by the new members, £3 ers, £25 ers. Labour was in debt before after last G.E but is no longer. Another couple of leadership elections is surely the plan.

I'm only comfortable drinking with a flat roof above me JY

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Bloody bourgeois Momentum members, and their fancy bloody country hostelries eh? 😉

4) Milliband[edit][b]'[/b][/edit]s reform of the voting system.
5) the MPs who put Corbyn on the ballot even though the didn't want him.

Agreed. and 6) unions, I dunno, so they're not left out.

You have to wonder what state the accounts are in

As said pretty good with all those £25s from monetising the beard.

The rival candidate makes John Major look like a dynamic character.

I really can't work out if Owen knows that he is a patsy, a stalking donkey or whether he really thinks that he has what it takes to lead Labour.

I can't believe that a grown man has the level of 'humour' of an adolescent

At least he's got one.

and possibly even closer to Woppit.

Very, at one point... 😐

Actually it's very rare for me to talk politics on a bike ride. If the conversation goes that way I generally try to steer it away.

as before, that was a wee joke! but the Holmbury fire roads are wide enough for evasive action!

the Holmbury fire roads

Is that what they are? Some posh git when we asked for direction once referred to one as "the gallop", which sounded like something out of an Agatha Christie novel.

@binners, is that your Red Tory country club, even has a pool out front ?

Derek, lifelong Trade Unionist, Labour member, big Corbyn supporter. Screen only large enough for a few Tweets but he covers a lot of ground, I'm sure you get the jist. [b]This is exactly the sort of person Corbyn is empowering[/b]. This is the sort of person I could see misbehaving at the Party Conference Ernie. Those of you who support Labour should be very worried about this, it's getting worse and worse. Free Anjem Chaoudry, he's just a scholar. That's a vote winner. BTW the preacher who I have heard say numerous times that man made law is always inferior to Sharia and that Muslims should not vote turns out to be Chaudray's right hand man who the police are investigating with a view to charging him on anti-terrorist matters.

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Jilly Cooper more like

This is the sort of person I could see misbehaving at the Party Conference Ernie

Well done you found a racist dick on the internet...what prize do you want?

you found a racist dick on the internet

here is another

Those of you who support Labour should be very worried about this,

Are you conversely worried about Richard Littlejohn?

the MPs who put Corbyn on the ballot even though the didn't want him.

That right there shows that the PLP don't understand the electorate.

or whether he really thinks that he has what it takes to lead Labour.

he looks to be as qualified, or more, than Corbyn...

Corbyn allowed himself to be nominated but didnt want to win. What does that say about their views on/understanding of the electorate etc?

allowed himself to be nominated but didnt want to win.

teamhurtmore - Member

Corbyn allowed himself to be nominated but didnt want to win. What does that say about their views on/understanding of the electorate etc?

That comment says more about you than anyone else.

The plotters "Plan A" was that they would resign their front bench positions in a carefully choreographed manner forcing Corbyn to resign as leader. That plan failed.

The plotters "Plan B" was a vote of no confidence in Corbyn which would force him to resign. That plan failed.

The plotters "Plan C" was to negotiate with Corbyn and offer him a shadow cabinet position or some policy commitment if he resigned. That plan failed.

The plotters "Plan D" was to threaten Corbyn with another leadership contest in which he wouldn't be allowed to be on the ballot paper. That plan failed.

The plotters "Plan E", they're starting to get really desperate now, is that they should all rally behind a challenger who no one really knows much about, who claims to be as radical and left-wing as Corbyn, and who speaks of the need for a "socialist revolution". That plan will almost certainly also fail.

So you see there isn't much evidence that Corby doesn't want to be leader of the party.

He [i]"allowed himself to be nominated"[/i] because he wanted to win......obviously.

But it helps to portray someone as a "loser" if you pretend that they don't even want to win.

They've now got Plan F - try and remove as many Corbyn-voters as possible from the leadership electorate

I learned from my Momentum meeting that they now need to be rightfully concerned about Plan H - have him killed, by staging an accident while he's cycling to work.

You heard it first here comrades. The Glorious Leader needs our protection from the dark forces which threaten his life

I learned from my Momentum meeting that they now need to be rightfully concerned about Plan H - have him killed, by staging an accident while he's cycling to work.

So you see there isn't much evidence that Corby doesn't want to be leader of the party.

I always get the impression that he never wanted the job in the first place. But since he accidentally got elected (oops!), John McDonnell has been telling him that he's being the *ing leader whether he *ing well likes it or not!!! And its not open to *ing discussion!! Now sit down in that *ing corridor, look into this *ing camera and *ing well say this!!!!

Does plan G involve an ice pick ?

Ernie that is very nice detail on events post the unexpected win, Thank you. Not really relevant to the situation pre the win, though is it.

didn't = past tense
doesn't = present tense

Who mentioned "loser"? He's on a winning streak so far (even got his way on Europe 😉 ) Plenty of time for the big one.

But sssh with all that stuff. It's making the Labour Party look rather incompetent.