Jeremy Corbyn

I hadn't really thought about the party conference

i suppose that
when you do you will
post
a
monty python picture
just
a prediction

For all those in despair

The Labour Party is looking to recruit a Head of Policy and Research to the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party. The post holder will be responsible for leading the development and implementation of research and policy development within the deputy leader’s brief, and to manage the Deputy Leader’s research and policy team.

The successful candidate will have experience of delivering high quality political research, excellent organisational skills to ensure quick responses to requests, the ability to work proactively with a variety of stakeholders and excellent attention to detail.

Not sure who the boss might be, but a chance to do more than type on the internet. Off you "trot" (sorry but IGMC)

The second para looks optional as poor attention to detail hasnt stopped others

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Anyway... wheres [s]fred[/s] Clodhopper today? Having lunch with the rest of the cast of Made in Chelsea?

I thought "theauthorities" = Fred.
Clod was clearly someone else before as well.

@johnx2...how will the Tories be defeated if there is no anti-Tory narrative?

Let's say language creates reality. There is much talk of swing voters being important to campaign success. Any swing voters on here will read lots of anti Labour narrative and nothing anti Tory. What reality is then created regarding their impression of Conservative versus Labour?

This is why I suggest someone like @Binners, whilst he may mean, well he's playing straight into Tory hands and fueling their success...

So I suppose we've thrashed the Train Debacle then.

Looking forward to the next Chief Clown/Clown Party comedy event.

Nearly conference time, Wopster, so we've got that to look forward to. If it even happens, that is!

I agree with EVB. Better to provoke thought than dismissal.

Nearly conference time, Wopster, so we've got that to look forward to. If it even happens, that is

Right on, comrade.

Should be an "entertaining" conference. For starters:

Cuckoos versus traitors

GMB, Unite and USDAW versus Jezza on Trident/unilateral disarmament

GMB and USDAW (traitors?) versus Unite and CWU (cult members?) on general matters – what role will Unison play (referee?)

Williamson v Cosin for NCC membership

Revisionists versus forward thinkers (only joking)

Guest appearances – Binners versus Ernie; the N-S debate

Conference, what conference comrade ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/25/labour-left-humiliated-after-g4s-turns-down-last-ditch-plea-to-p/

Lucky Eric Alexander winning the office sweep-stake and getting to tell Labour the good news. I bet he wasn't laughing much.

I wonder if he asked "Did you book it in advance - I can't see anything mentioned in the diary ?"

Perhaps they could have a rerun of the London Olympics and get the troops in?

Venezuelan troops, obviously 🙂

Perhaps some momentum supporters armed with shivs ?

"Oi, democrat, where's your tool ?"

"What tool ?"

I can't see why then need a security firm?

Surely any likely terrorists will already have invites from Jezza and Owen anyway?

binners - Member

Perhaps they could have a rerun of the London Olympics and get the troops in?

Venezuelan troops, obviously

You do realise this has absolutely nothing with Corbyn don't you? He doesn't arrange the conference security nor does momentum.

You do also realise that other than winning the leadership the whole Labour Party apparatus is still in the hands of the New Labour/Blairite faction don't you?

That is why they are been able to, for example, exclude 20% of the party membership from the coming leadership ballot and ban all local party constituency meetings.

That will change when the recently elected NEC members take their seats on the NEC, but until then it is still in the hands of the New Labour faction.

Responsibility for securing conference contracts lies with the general secretary of the Labour Party, not the party leader. That person is Iain McNicol an Owen Smith supporter who has helped to rig the ballot in Smith's favour.

Iain McNicol, despite being a member of GMB himself, negotiated a contract with a company which has an on-going industrial dispute with the GMB.

Unsurprising this has caused some problems. Also unsurprising is that this farce is being exploited by the likes of the Daily Telegraph, and of course is being blamed on Corbyn.

By relishing the mess this has caused and joining in the ridicule binners you are not attacking Corbyn you are attacking the Labour Party itself.

Now I can fully understand why people like cranberry, Woppit, THM, Flashheart, ninfan, etc, are exploiting what appears to be something of a mess, why wouldn't they, it makes perfect sense that they should.

But unlike you they don't actually claim to be members of the Labour Party.

I have no idea whether you are a member of the Labour Party as you claim (you have said previously that you were a registered supporter and then later admitted it was a lie) but if you are, your level of hypocrisy is simply staggering.

Five hours ago you posted :

you seem considerably more intent on pouring scorn on people like me, who are nominally on the same side as you, than on anything the Tories are doing

You then use every opportunity to attack the Labour Party.

I am not "on the same side" as you binners, anymore than I'm "on the same side" as Woppit, THM, Flashheart, ninfan, etc.

yeah, NEC voted by members rather than the £3 brigade.

Nevertheless, Corbyn supporters on the NEC forced the surprise vote to boycot G4S (not my favourite company fwiw) because of their Israel links. And it's Corbyn's watch that this is happening on.

Unsurprising this has caused some problems. Also unsurprising is that this farce is being exploited by the likes of the Daily Telegraph, and [b]of course is being blamed on Corbyn.[/b]

Is it? I think you are getting a little paraniod Ernie.

Jezza was mentioned in passing by the Torygraph but otherwise hard to see anyone blaming him directly. I guess the buck stops well before the top in this case, eh?

Corbyn supporters on the NEC forced...

Arm twisting no doubt.

Good point about the NEC voted by members rather than the £3 brigade btw. It was a clean sweep for Corbyn backers.........without any help from the £3 brigade. Which is worth mentioning.

teamhurtmore - Member

I think you are getting a little paraniod Ernie.

Jezza was mentioned in passing by the Torygraph but otherwise hard to see anyone blaming him directly.

Yes of course having the headline :

[b]"Labour left humiliated after G4S turns down last ditch plea to provide conference security despite boycott"[/b]

Directly above this picture of Corbyn :

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Isn't trying to shift the blame onto Corbyn.........it's just my "paranoia".

The Daily Telegraph would never do such a thing !!! 😆

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-conference-could-be-cancelled-after-g4s-turn-down-last-minute-offer-to-provide-security-a7209861.html ]No sooner said than done.[/url]

No, still looks like paranoia - no evidence to support your accusation.

[talking of paranoia, this top of the page thing is getting a bit spookey!!]

CaptainFlashheart - Member
I thought "theauthorities" = Fred.
Clod was clearly someone else before as well

My money's on Clod = Fred.

teamhurtmore - Member

No, still looks like paranoia - no evidence to support your accusation.

So why directly below the headline a huge picture of Corbyn - if he has nothing to do with the story !!! 😆

Ooh, that a difficult starter for 10. Where do we send the answers?

Still no evidence for your accusation. Any more Ernie-swerves or a graceful back down?

Am I being unreasonable to be annoyed that my taxes are in part helping to pay the salaries of the PLP who appear to be too busy fighting each other to get on with the job of being HM loyal opposition?

teamhurtmore - Member

Ooh, that a difficult starter for 10. Where do we send the answers?

Just post your answer on here.

Why did the Daily Telegraph have a huge picture of Corbyn directly under their headline if they weren't trying to link the story with Corbyn ?

Any more Ernie-swerves

Did you have a straight face when you typed that ?

Story about Labour party conference has picture of Labour party leader.

Shocking.

Diane having a bit of a struggle on Ch4 news right now. Ineffective opposition.

No, I was laughing! Swerves are great. I loved Ingemar Stenmark in my youth, he was great at swerving.

So why directly below the headline a huge picture of Corbyn - if he has nothing to do with the story !!!

Corbyn is leader of the party, at least in title. His supporters decided to tell G4S that their services were no longer welcome.

It also fits in nicely with a continuing story of spinning, lies and utter incompetence from Jeremy.

True that it really should be the members of the NEC who were being childish and the union fat cats who are playing silly buggers that should have their photos in the article, but no one knows or cares who they are.

So Captain Incompetence gets to be the poster boy for another cock-up in the party that he should be leading.

See also the first 277 pages of this thread.

Oh, and a point of order: I am not exploiting the cretinous kamikaze behaviour of the Labour Party - I am far too busy laughing.

What's this picture got to do with party conference ? No Flashheart, the Daily Telegraph weren't trying to link the story with Corbyn ! 😆

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Will the photographers be attending?

Well, he is the leader of the party that's having conference troubles. Seems perfectly reasonable to have a picture of him.

Oddly, he looks quite happy. Makes a change.

He's probably just lobbed a brick through someones window 🙂

And quite smart.

Funny isn't it you spend all your time slagging company's off and then seem surprised they won't work with you.

Ernie you keep the faith it'll all come good in the end (no it won't)

that is the
point
do you think that
what comes
will be good for
you?

You know when Trevor McDonald did that bit at the end of the news about kittens with a poorly paw, or something?

Newsnight have started doing it about Corbyn.

#ConferenceGate. In a word. Shambles.

The naisance of this problem begins very much with Corbyn and his anti-Israel policy. As soon as he becomes leader they drop their security contractor of 20 years over links to Israel.

Its not hard to imagine it was the Corbynistas and Momentumites who where abusing and spitting at G4S security staff at prior conferences due to their contract in Israeli prisons. I mean that doesn't sound very Blairite behaviour does it ? It was those same Momentumites and Corbyinistas and [b]Corbyn himself [/b] who told G4S their links with Israel where inappropriate and meant they would not be hired to provide security after doing so for 20 years. It's not like Corbyn has had any issues with anti-Semitism either is it ?

Also as Labour Leader surely he has some sway over the Unions ? Come on comrades let Showsec do it as we've already told G4S they aren't welcome.

Anyway absolutely p.ssed myself laughing when Labour went back to G4S only to be told to buggar off. Priceless.

Its not hard to imagine it was the Corbynistas and Momentumites who where abusing and spitting at G4S security staff at prior conferences

You really believe everything you read in the Daily Telegraph don't you, or at least expect other people to.

What does "sources close to the company" mean ? It can mean absolutely anyone, it doesn't even have to be an employee of the company, just someone who feels "close to the company", like perhaps the reporter who wrote the story.

Eric Alexander, a named individual btw, and managing director for G4S events, said :

[i]“Our team of more than 100 security staff has secured the Labour party’s annual conference for over 20 years and the feedback from officials and the police on our work last year, as in the past, was extremely positive. Clearly we were disappointed not to continue such a successful working relationship.”[/i]

No mention of spitting. And you have to daft in the extreme to believe that conference delegates can simply spit at the security staff. Do you really think they would let someone into conference who spat at them ffs? They would be totally useless security staff if they did !

I think the point being made comrade is that in a democracy, if you want to achieve power, then it's probably best not to alienate absolutely everyone. Doesn't really work. It's that compromise thing again. Keeps cropping up doesn't it?

Out of interest... Is there anyone left outside the bunker who isn't on 'The List'?

Is there anyone left outside the bunker who isn't on 'The List'?

The people who make and deliver 'Socialist Worker' placards?

The judges for the upcoming summer fete 'home-made jams and chutneys' competition? (yet...)

Jamby your reasoning is nuts-binners seems keen on competing but is settling for Richard Littlejohn type diatribes and not letting any facts appear in his concerted barbs.

Last year the party’s national executive committee (NEC) voted to boycott G4S

It was those same Momentumites and Corbyinistas and Corbyn himself who told G4S their links with Israel where inappropriate and meant they would not be hired to provide security after doing so for 20 years

I love the way that no matter what happens the usual numbnuts blame Corbyn and make the most ridiculous of falsehoods to do it

Its a shambles - as per usual- there is no need to make things up

@ernie yes I believe attendees at the conference could spit at security. Conference in open to anyone who is a member, does that include any affiliated trade unionists or do they have to pay their £25 ?

Seems you are going for the biased / right wing media defence. Or at least a vain attempt to divert attention away from yet another unfolding shambles.

yes I believe attendees at the conference could spit at security.