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Just need to find my 12 monkey island 2 discs


 
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Not my style. Prefer c64


 
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Does it still work?


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:04 pm
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Footflaps - yes I have a fully working a500+ with hard drive and games. (It's not this one though, this is just a joke based on another thread)


 
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Spectrums * all over those then * them up the ***.

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😆


 
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Nice 2 tone detailing 😉


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:07 pm
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Retro! That's a flashback. What was the yellow one?


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:09 pm
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Always an ST man myself - the far superior of the two machines...


 
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C64 and Spectrum were much earlier, it's like comparing an iPhone to a 3210 . ( hides geekness)


 
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Retro! That's a flashback. What was the yellow one?

I think it was something wrong with the boot loader (kickstart?) but it's been a while!


 
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Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge was great.


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:20 pm
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This sounds really sad. But I always thought the Amiga was a good looking home computer.

I had a Jupiter Ace and an Oric Atmos.


 
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1993 - a vintage year...

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Posted : 15/02/2014 8:23 pm
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Lotus Esprit....

"Extra time", "turbo"


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:25 pm
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You need Jesus on E's for the full on Amiga flashback!


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:28 pm
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Still a great machine. I have 2 in the loft, both 500's. I haven't fired them up in ages, tbh, emulators ftw.

Speedball 2, Warhead, Subwar 2050, Thunderhawk, Phobia, Zeewolf 1 and 2. Lovely.


 
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I bodged my dads hard drive into mine! a MASSIVE 20mb one. MI2 worked great. And i learnt how to program using Amos. happy days


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:29 pm
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More of an Oric Atmos 48k man myself.

Prefer a niche to common as Commodores.


 
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stunt car racer ftw


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:31 pm
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I see the fun Police are on duty tonight!


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:35 pm
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Nice typewriter!!


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:36 pm
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Funny, just cleared out my retro games collection and all I'm left with are the Amiga games.
Anyone want to make an offer?


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 8:55 pm
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Thats a very feminine pc. Are you a Tranny/crossdresser OP?


 
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We would have KILLED for any of the 'forementioned. My stepdad was an early adopter of Basic and bought a Sharp MZ80k. The games were unutterably naff. Strip poker was shattering in its disappointment 🙁


 
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Pook excellent choice getting the plus.

I've got a massive box of games I'll hunt out for you.


 
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*goes off to find somewhere to play Desert Strike*


 
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Buzzing. I'll bring some games round for you to copy.

Just got Test Drive!!!!

(My 13 year old nephew is amazed we used to be able to share games/music/things)


 
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Rusty S - is that a Relum Tornado based lamping set up?


 
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No idea mate.
All I know is it's Harlton Cheston with a bloody big gun.
From The Omega Man.

You can't see the join, can you?

Bet he could get loads of bunnies on Blackley golf course with that.

I like your watch btw.
I used to love those placcy strapped TAGs from the same era.
Wish I'd got one when I had the chance.


 
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I have an Atari ST (actually mine from the 90s) in the loft and a load of games. I bought a hard drive for it (16MB!) in 1998 when I was at uni, and I recently completed the set with the lovely 12" monochrome monitor - that was £20. Pointless but one of the few 'collectable' purchases I've ever made. Booted it up a while ago, all my stuff was still on the HD 🙂 Might have to do something to preserve all those floppies though. Maybe I'll bring it down to the living room and see if I can play Buggy Boy on a 40" LCD telly 🙂

More of an Oric Atmos 48k man myself.

Also in the loft I have an Oric 1 but it's sadly not my original one. I had that for a long time along with the original telly and tape recorder we got for it, a load of games, books and even those magazines with games to type in.


 
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all I can say is that you better have some decent games on your phone while you wait for the games to load


 
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i had the a1200 which i upgraded with a whopping 8mb HDD - second hand out the scotads.

Lemmings and Paradroid were the game of choice.


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 10:36 pm
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my amiga a500+ is long broken 🙁 (i still have it).


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 10:41 pm
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Still have the Amiga 1200, C64 and a ZX81 in the parents loft


 
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[i]Always an ST man myself - the far superior of the two machines... [/i]

Outside. Now.


 
Posted : 15/02/2014 11:15 pm
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My first computer was an Amiga A1500 - 1mb "Chip" RAM and 2 3.5" in a massive empty box. Got an AGA 1200 a few years later, it had a whopping 127mb HDD and 2mb "Chip" RAM then added an '030 accelerator and another 4mb "Fast" RAM.

Xenon II Megablast
Turrican
Populous
Sim City
Lemmings
Worms - IIRC that was the result of a competition run by Team 17 and Amiga Format
Zool
All the Microprose flight sims
Deluxe Paint
Imagine - it came free on the cover of Amiga Format one month and had me hooked!

Happy Days!


 
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I had an Amiga 500 which was brilliant.

I always wanted a Jupiter Ace though as I wanted to learn Forth. Having the OBP on SUN/SPARC machines helped that along a bit. There's still a few machines around the country that say stuff if you type 'adam' at the boot prompt! 😀


 
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My Atari spent most of the early to mid 90's producing obscure bleeps and playing about with samples that folk (me included i admit) freaked out to on doves and pink champagne 😉 , I've still got it in the attic…one of these days i'll get it back out along with the 303.


 
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No mention of Arcadia?


 
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I only recently sold my a1200 with an 030 accelerator and 32mb card. Had a 4gb flash HDD too, very quick. I still play a few games with UAE, superfrog and alien breed are great.

My cd32 and dreamcast will be up for sale if anyone is interested.


 
Posted : 16/02/2014 12:01 am
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Just for the record, I have NOT bought an Amiga. I already have one.


 
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Speaking as an ST boy,

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You can get an Amiga > SCART lead for not much money. Old girl never looked so good.


 
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Had an Amiga. 120MB HDD + CPU upgrade. It was neat. Modern computers are so much better for actually doing stuff though.


 
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I had an Amiga 500+ (the cartoon pack with Lemmings, Bart Vs The Space Mutants, Captain Planet and Deluxe Paint III). I loved the Speccy and the C64, but the Amiga was something else entirely, made me the woman I am today!


 
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Amiga 500 , now that brings back some memories . Syndicate and Cannon Fodder , two of my favorite games.

" war , what's is it good for ......... "


 
Posted : 16/02/2014 8:23 am
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Mrs Toast - I must admit I did see a bit of deluxe paint III heritage in your work

Toast and tea - the lyrics for the theme tune for cannon fodder were

"War, never been so much fun
War, never been so much fun
War never been so much fun
War never been so much fun
Go to your brother
Kill him with your gun
Leave him lying in his uniform
Lying in the sun
War <poing>
Do do de do do doooo"


 
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http://www.oric.org/software/zorgon_s_revenge-545.html

I don't know whether to smile or cry at the vanished years 🙂 😐 🙁


 
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I always wanted a Jupiter Ace though as I wanted to learn Forth

I had forth for the Oric.

I think the mouse is broken for my Atari. Going to be tricky finding a replacement !


 
Posted : 16/02/2014 8:50 am
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Very nice OP, I had a 500 back in the day then a 1200 in various states for years, oh and a 3000 briefly. These days I mostly stick to emulating one, below is a screenshot of my current setup, not bad for 20+ yrs old (you can run a "real" one like this although needs a bit of grunt for the browser)

If you need any advice then a couple of the best sites/forums are [url= http://amiga.org/ ]http://amiga.org/[/url] and [url= http://amigaworld.net/ ]http://amigaworld.net/[/url]

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What's that set-up then dlr, care to share the details with us?


 
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500. 500+ then the 1200 for me. I had a an upgraded processor that was I think another 14mhz giving 28mhz and I think it had 4mb of additional ram. And I think it was a 256mb hard drive that snapped on the side making it even longer.
Chaos Engine co op was ace
Sensible soccer
Deluxe paint started me of on graphics & the. Something better

Had a frame grabber that snapped on the back that was huge. Gen lock for overlaying graphics on video. A sampler that connected externally. My ex wife an I stopped spending money going out and spent loads on Amiga upgrades. Not software though, The Barras market had every bit of software you wanted for about £1 a disk. Left more cash for all the solid that was smoked ( no skunk in Edinburgh when I lived there)


 
Posted : 16/02/2014 10:37 am
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That's [url= http://amikit.amiga.sk/ ]Amikit[/url] with a few changes. I mostly use that for general faffing. For games I use [url= http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/uae.htm ]ClassicWB[/url] the UAE one as it's lighter, for both you need the kickstart roms and the Workbench 3.1 disks

Both run on top of Winuae which is an excellent emulator. If it wasn't for the blue skies outside I would fire up the Chaos Engine for a blast, wired USB box 360 gamepad works perfectly with the emu 🙂


 
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Thats cool, cheers- I'll check that out. I was a paid-up member of the Amiga Forever project well over a decade ago, so will get into this!


 
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Syndicate, UFO, Gunship 2000 etc. Those were the days. That and a copy of x-copy plus loads of blank discs and loads of mates with Amigas = a massive game collection!


 
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Hulkamania will never die!


 
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Mrs Toast - I must admit I did see a bit of deluxe paint III heritage in your work

I had 48 floppy disks of drawings and animations, I used to get really upset when my brother would nick one to be a filthy pirate. He wouldn't even get good games, he'd get stuff like Sensible Soccer and Kick Off 2. 🙁

I used to get frustrated because I wanted to do 24 frames per second, like Disney did with The Little Mermaid, but I'd get about 2-3 seconds in and it'd run out memory. 🙁


 
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Always an ST man myself - the far superior of the two machines...

That is fighting talk! The Amiga was easily the superior machine technically. The Atari was a hastily cobbled together mess in comparison.


 
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Stunt Car Racer and F18 Interceptor. Many school mornings suffered as a result...


 
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codybrennan: See what free updates you can get for it, I bought the 2012 edition which comes with legal roms and lots of base images including an amikit one


 
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Not sure the Amiga was far superior technically. It had a blitter, but I dunno what else. I'd read that the OS wasn't up to much but I never worked with it. The ST's OS was really cool to program with.

not bad for 20+ yrs old

I used to surf the net on my actual 1040ST, in about 1997, on a 19.2 kbps modem. It took far longer to render/scale the graphics than it did to load them, but it did work technically 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2014 8:52 pm
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Workbench was far better than TOS, proper preemptive multitasking etc. The ST had it's place though and did well in the music field due to being midi ready out of the box. One of my Uni assignments was 68000 assembly on a TT. Sadly both parent companies were run really badly and despite once being ahead of the game, then failed completely to keep up with the emerging PC (and console) market


 
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It had a blitter,

So did the STe.


 
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Yes but that came really late, so by then the majority of ST owners had plain STs, so games had to be written without blitter features.

Workbench was far better than TOS, proper preemptive multitasking etc

I'd heard that this was a bit too ambitious for the architecture, so was problematic and not reliable.. of course I used to read ST magazines...


 
Posted : 17/02/2014 10:17 am
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The OS itself was fine, the issue was the lack of memory protection so if a process went mad it could overwrite address space and take it all down. Only some of the later models and accelerators had MMU's but most programs would ignore them so not much help.

ST was still quite good at games, iirc its 68000 was marginally faster. A lot of Amiga games were straight ports due to cost reasons when they could have been made a bit better gfx wise.

Falcons are a nice bit of kit still worth a lot. They had the rather bad bug of a 16bit bus so once you left the cache of the 32bit 68030 they were comparatively crippled. Probably done like this to cut costs and/or rush it out for release.


 
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ST was still quite good at games, iirc its 68000 was marginally faster

ca. 7.1 MHz on the Amiga, which I always assumed was related to a frequency used by the gfx chip (PAL and NTSC machines had different CPU speeds).
ST was 8MHz.

unnoticable difference in most cases tbh, although some Amiga owners reluctantly had to agree that some games like Elite ran fractionally smoother on the Atari.

Still got my STe. And 464.


 
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Wish you could still get Sensible World of Soccer without emulators!


 
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