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You monster Essel! He’s just a poor dyslexic fella and this is clearly all your fault or something
I think it was the fact that the OP chose to highlight the 'perp's' apparent Dyslexia and possible other issues, in order to demonise them, that Drac was rightfully critical of. I must say, such behaviour lost any sympathy from me too. Of course, it could be scam. But the OP still actively chose to use a person's apparent disability as a way of demeaning them. Which is pretty shitty in my book.
Ahh well, back to work tomorrow for £9 an hour.
Then it'll only take you a couple of hours to recoup your losses, then.
^^^^^^
Ah, the Therese Coffey solution.
It's bad enough in itself to be using her logic to be honest but it's also completely untrue.
The OP says he earns £9 per hour. A couple of hours would give him £18 which is less than he paid for the pedals. Only by £1 admittedly. But unless the OP has an arrangement with Therese's pal Rishi, he'll have to pay tax and NI on that. He's also have to pay to get to work presumably. He'll also have to pay other associated costs of working. Also, he may not be able to pick up extra work for any number of reasons.
The seller may or may not be dyslexic and he shouldn't be mocked for it (I'm not entirely sure he was btw but that's by the by) but one thing I am pretty certain of is that is that the seller is a scumbag. And the OP has my full sympathies.
Ah, the Therese Coffey solution.
It’s bad enough in itself to be using her logic to be honest but it’s also completely untrue.
The OP says he earns £9 per hour. A couple of hours would give him £18 which is less than he paid for the pedals. Only by £1 admittedly. But unless the OP has an arrangement with Therese’s pal Rishi, he’ll have to pay tax and NI on that. He’s also have to pay to get to work presumably. He’ll also have to pay other associated costs of working. Also, he may not be able to pick up extra work for any number of reasons.
Jesus Christ. Slow day?
one thing I am pretty certain of is that is that the seller is a scumbag
And how do you work that out, based on scant, one-sided information? The Judge Dredd solution...
Not entirely sure what you mean by JC and slow day?
As for the conclusion I have reached, well firstly I have said I am only "pretty certain" but my pretty certain conclusion was based on the balance of probabilities.
I'd hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he's taken someone's money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages - clear as day he's scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a 'true gent' etc.
But the OP still actively chose to use a person’s apparent disability as a way of demeaning them.
I did highlight one word out of the whole text, but not to demenour the guy, if I was going to do that I'd have highlighted each spelling/grammar mistake.
If I hadn't, would that make me the good guy for everyone & him the bad one, or would you still have sympathy for the robbing barstard?
Any idea how many people in jail for robbery are dyslexic? (he spelled that word right)
Thousands. Still robbers though.
You now have his bank account details.
Set up multiple standing orders for tiny amounts of money. 12p here, 7p there.
At least you’ll feel like you’re looking after him.
That's a thought....
Not entirely sure what you mean by JC and slow day?
That you had the time to go to such lengths of explaining the intricacies of the taxation system...
my pretty certain conclusion was based on the balance of probabilities.
And your own prejudices. I'm glad our justice system doesn't work on mere 'balance of probabilities', and prejudices...
I did highlight one word out of the whole text, but not to demenour the guy, if I was going to do that I’d have highlighted each spelling/grammar mistake.
If I hadn’t, would that make me the good guy for everyone & him the bad one, or would you still have sympathy for the robbing barstard?
A bit like what I've just done? Fact is you did attempt to use his apparent disability to demean him. There was no need whatsoever to draw attention to his apparent inability to spell etc. Yet you felt you had to. You made that choice, and it was criticised.
Any idea how many people in jail for robbery are dyslexic? (he spelled that word right)
Thousands. Still robbers though.
Any idea how many sufferers of Dyslexia struggle educationally, don't receive the support they should, and end up in shitty circumstances which often put them at risk of criminalisation? Thousands. Still Human Beings though. Same as you and me.
All Drac was doing was highlighting how shitty it is to mock someone's apparent disability. And there was a pile on. And then we have this:
I’d hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he’s taken someone’s money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages – clear as day he’s scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a ‘true gent’ etc.
Wow.
I said he has to pay tax and NI. Not sure how that qualifies as explaining the intricacies of the taxation system but hey ho.
My own prejudices? Now who is being judgmental? I'm not dismissing how challenging it must be to be dyslexic. I'm not thinking a person with dyslexia is any less of a person than one who is not dyslexic. I actually can't believe I have just had to type that.
I just have empathy for the OP. Perhaps you might like to think about extending some empathy to him too.
As for the so-called justice system, if you think it's there to dispense justice, then more fool you.
That you had the time to go to such lengths of explaining the intricacies of the taxation system…
I know, right? What's the world coming to when someone takes a couple of minutes to pull you up on your trite, dismissive and plain incorrect one-liner.
I’d hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he’s taken someone’s money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages – clear as day he’s scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a ‘true gent’ etc.
One of the most incredible paragraphs to grace a STW thread in quite some time.
I said he has to pay tax and NI. Not sure how that qualifies as explaining the intricacies of the taxation system but hey ho.
Does it really matter? Would you have preferred it if I'd said '2 hours 30 minutes', or something, instead of a 'couple' (ie, an arbitrary amount of time, not strictly specified) of hours? I apologise for not being exact on the amount of time needed to earn £19. In my defence, I don't know how many hours the OP works, or their total yearly income (which if beneath a certain threshold, wouldn't qualify for income tax anyway), so I couldn't form an informed guess as to exactly how much time it would take for them to earn £19. If you can, based on the information available, then crack on. If you consider that a good use of your own time, that is.
My own prejudices? Now who is being judgmental?
You were basing your judgment on nothing more than scant, one-sided information, and personal opinion. That is the very definition of being 'judgmental'.
I just have empathy for the OP. Perhaps you might like to think about extending some empathy to him too.
I have some empathy for the OP. It's never nice to lose something unjustly. I also however have some empathy for the 'accused', but then only based on a suggestion they may be Dyslexic, and that from even the scant, one-sided information given, doesn't sound like it's a particularly well-organised 'crime', if it indeed even is (we haven't seen any court judgement or otherwise, which might inform us an actual crime has indeed taken place, only that payment is as such, 'delayed'). Perhaps I just have a little more empathy than some others on there, is all. Perhaps I'm a 'bleeding heart'. I'll wear that as a badge of honour.
"You were basing your judgment on nothing more than scant, one-sided information, and personal opinion. That is the very definition of being ‘judgmental’."
In your own words: "Does it really matter?"
If it actually mattered, if it was going to have any effect on the 'seller', I would have reserved judgment. As it was, I saw a post on a biking website from a familiar contributor and I expressed sympathy for him.
If it mattered, I may indeed have sympathy for the 'seller' but in this context, it really doesn't.
As for the amount of money involved and how much time it would take him to earn that back, the whole argument is irrelevant. The OP had that money. Now it is gone. He cannot ever truly make up that loss. And nor should he have to.
You seem to like to question my use of time, I notice you keep replying, you might want to think about how you use your time.
Lol! Ok. 😀
Send me your paypal and i'll send you what you've lost.
This thread is ace. I know some of you are paragons of absolute virtue and have never offended a soul. Look for the best in everything and everyone is a decent, honest human being at heart if only given the chance. Continue lying to yourselves or building your internet persona, whichever applies here.
Jesus there really are some throbbers on here! Bloke gets robbed and the virtue signalers turn it up to 11 almost immediately!
£19 loss is probably a drop in the ocean to huge swathes of the stw elite, but is a real kick in the teeth for some people.
I take it we've got no firm evidence that the chap is actually dyslexic either?
virtue signalers
Hi Donnie.