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Coming home, I turned at the of the drive and my power steering vanished.
I checked for leaks at the pump, the hoses and the steering box but found nothing. I figured it must have been the pump that had given up. I do so few miles in a year it would be uneconomic to fit a new one. I called the breakers year in Inverkeithing, they had three or four Discoverys in stock. So I nipped over and found one on a Disco with half the mileage on mine. For the princely sum of £17 it was mine.
Once fitted my power steering is back to one finger power lock to lock. Feeling chuffed I'd saved the old bus from an early grave.
I got to thinking even though bits fail here and there on these elderly Land Rovers, I'd imagine 90s and 110s will be much the same, they are so fixable. I somehow doubt their newer brethern or competitors will be anywhere near as field serviceable.
What did you last fix on your Land Rover?
On wednesday we had to do some headscratching to keep simply_oli_y off heres thunderbus going .... Ex mil v8 110with a 200tdi disco engine and lt77 transplant in .
His alternator light was on all the time.
So we did the usual checks and worked out that his exciter diodes werent working,
Rake round my gaff and find 5 alternators off various land rovers and 2 off peugeot vans.
None that would fit his engine.
We stripped down one of my good alternators off a v8 disco and rebuilt it into his casing so it mounted correctly.
Job done
Years ago a friend of mine owned a Defender, I think it was a 90 but I'm not sure. There was a point where the lights wouldn't turn off until you hit the kill switch under the passenger seat. 😆
I love how LR owners discussing their old nags always say 'Its remarkable really, theres nothing wrong with it, its just needs.....' then list all the things that are wrong with it. 🙂
A friend of mine's now accrued 5 or 6 series landys all of which 'have nothing wrong with them really' but non of which actually work and haven't worked for years. I've driven his defender and the shocking condition thats in (it doesn't really stop or steer but it was able to follow the ruts made by the tractor in front and you can rely on the boggy ground for it to stop going forward) makes me wonder just how bad the others are for him to keep using that in preference.
As regards the newer brethren and slightly OT, A friend hit a pheasant the other morning in his brand new Discovery, damaging the headlamp glass. The replacement complete unit, as they don't sell the glass separately, is available for a mere £841 plus VAT... Company vehicle, otherwise he was saying he'd need to put an insurance claim through.
Madness, although it does house a lot of pretty little lights, rather than just one
The discovery/freelanders and range rovers are expensive trinkets compared to the proper land rovers, you know when it's a proper 4x4 there is no carpet in the interior.
Welded up both the doors on a defender 90, they had cracked just under the window ledge, and broken a few door card clips as well.
What did you last fix on your Land Rover?
Asthma attack.
20 years ago i worked for a 4x4 specalist in Oxfordshire. We had a local Pig Farmer who had a 110 that was just used to haul (grossly overloaded) trailers full of pig feed from the Farm to the fields. It used to get through clutches every 3 months, and after about the 5th one, the Farmer got annoyed and chopped it in for an Izuzu Trooper. Well that lasted over 6 months before the clutch went, twice as long as for the Defender, but it cost over £800 in parts and had a 2 week wait while they were sourced! (compared to about £100 and off the shelf for the LR).
So Landys, yup, they break often, but they are cheap and easy to fix 😉
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As regards the newer brethren and slightly OT, A friend hit a pheasant the other morning in his brand new Discovery, damaging the headlamp glass. The replacement complete unit, as they don't sell the glass separately, is available for a mere £841 plus VAT... Company vehicle, otherwise he was saying he'd need to put an insurance claim through
The old Lucas sealed beam units in the Defender cost less than a tenner.......... (ok, a couple of candles would be brighter, but they are cheap!)
I've got a disco III, I counbt on a £800 bill every few months.
Last one was suspension compressor, I rebuilt one but that died too. Needed a new upgraded one from a specialist. With the ecu upgrade it didnt end up cheap.
10 year old disco 3. Fixed a wiring problem on the air suspension 18 months ago and not had to do anything since.....I may be tempting fate with this post though 😆
2006 Disco 3 has required
Turbo, inter cooler, gearbox, rear wheel bearings, air suspension compressor, sat Nav drive, comms module, rear tyres, electric parking brake module, and a new spare + winch when it was nicked in Coventry.
NEVER again.
The 110 needs a new head light. A tenner! I wonder if the breakers down the road has a used one? 😆
What a timely post. I'm not long home from helping a mate change the gearbox in his 110. Lost all but 4th (direct) on Tuesday night. Recon box sourced and delivered by Thursday, fitted today on his drive with basic tools and a trolley jack. Cross drilled input gear fitted in the transfer too for good measure.
Hi Mattsccm. Try Urban Trucks. They custom build stuff from new vehicles so have new take off pretty cheap
Sorry, but I cant get past £841 for a headlight.
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841 for a headlight......
Ive replaced all my lights on the 90 for led units & fitted a heated screen, new doors ,new seats and all new brake system and have not paid 841 quid plus vat....
Yes, £841 plus vat. He negotiated them to £700 and then 2 days wait to get it supplied and fitted. Although he still claims the Discoveries are cheaper to own and run than the series of Landy's that preceeded.
Having been given a 54 plate swb defender as a work vehicle about 7 months ago, I've found myself grown quite accustomed to its idiosyncrasies, knocks, rattles, intermittent switch gear and asthmatic blower. Actually, quite endearing, as our the other Defender drivers. I've noticed when another approaches from any direction, acknowledgement is passed with minimal gestures, in an understated empathic manner of sympathy and superiority. In stark contrast to the often manic waving of all limbs as was the collective need for all those 2CV drivers a number of decades ago.
The Defender is way cool, I would drive it all the time, so long as I don't need to go any further than 20 mile radius. I've absolutely no idea if it's a 90 or 110, whatever those numbers mean. It pulls trailers, it starts, it's immensely practical for what I'm doing and where I do it and like it that its a bit of a bus to drive.
I am relieved that I don't have to dip into my wallet or time to keep it going though 😀
Sorry, but I cant get past £841 for a headlight.
£841?
Don't buy a mazda then,
I've absolutely no idea if it's a 90 or 110, whatever those numbers mean.
90" or 110", it's the length of the wheelbase, so either a short'un or a long'un.
Thanks CZ, it's a 90 then 🙂
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Sorry, but I cant get past £841 for a headlight.
£841?
Don't buy a mazda then,
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Grew up wiv a mk2a as a kid 🙁
Nothing like your pimp boxes ....
Is that 841 +vat = £1000 to joe public....
CountZero90" or 110", it's the length of the wheelbase, so either a short'un or a long'un
Pedants corner. Defender 90s actually have a 93" wheelbase (at std ride height) 😆
I expect they price them to stop people face lifting last weeks car to this weeks 🙂
Count zero you went to all that trouble to find a picture, but you didn't read back a few posts. 😆
Defender 90s actually have a 93" wheelbase
I think both figures are well within normal LR tolerance 🙂
nope its never over (thankfully), 24 years young and about to be rebuilt for another 24(+) years.
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Haha, that is what mine looked like 3 years ago. Now 32 years old and good for another 30
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What did you last fix on your Land Rover?
New chassis. As a colleague once said 'it's a land rover, the chassis is pretty much a consumable'
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Currently considering something like this with some big tyres on for site work, as my Navara is getting trashed in all the mud
What did you last fix on your Land Rover?
Not mine, but a hire 110 from Lix toll had a drive shaft go all clicky and knocky on me. I took it in there and then, they handed me a cuppa, and 12 minutes later(!) handed me the keys back with replacement shaft fitted that they 'borrowed' from one of the many out back....
Loving the 109 Station Wagon with the tropical roof.
Aye pete , that will fleg folk , assuming mr curtain supplys his passengers with ear defenders 🙂 has a full bhuna 200tdi under the hood and 4 on the floor with overdrive 🙂
Great Easter present - a mcmoonter Landy thread! (Some gratuitous shots of landy near wood stacks though, please)!
Last thing I fixed - many years ago when I was running it - starter motor. Cheap to buy but a pig to fit. At least it meant no more bump starts.
Aaaaaaahhh, I still hanker........
A mate has a Series 1 87 inch Landy in his garage in bits ready to restore for his daughter. It's been cut down to 80 inch. It's on the log book as an 87 inch. Think it might of been a Dutch army one. Anyone have any info?
Fuel line on '71 S3 lightweight with a low compression military V8 in (or V4,6,7 depending in how it's feeling). Fuel line needed to move it so back chassis rails can be welded - why LR didn't galvanise the chassis is beyond me. PS love the smell of gearbox oil that wafts through all series...
keeping the mcmoonter-easter-landrover gift giving for ononeorange...
down at the coppice last week
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Since I finished building it a year ago, I've taken it in for some new swivels - I decided to pass on that job. But I did re-do all the trailing arm bushes, panhard rod bush and steering damper. And got some proper wheels for it. That were much better balanced too. Oh, and had to make up an inner-tube-based seal for the filler cap as it keeps pissing diesel everywhere.
Keep on top of fluid changes, grease the prop-shaft unis, and it seems quite happy. I do need to redo the earth strap to the chassis though - I think the galv has oxidised underneath the strap and Im losing grunt to the starter.
This is not helping my D3 or Defender decisions.
Wondering if I can make a 110 a comfy every day car that works on the farm too. Thinking some nice seats and sorting out the heater etc and just accepting I will have to pootle around and take a few minutes longer to get places.
Andy, mine is my daily runner. Fitted eberspacher diesel heater and heated Windscreen to cover winter comforts. New seat foam and covers from exmoor trim.
As mattoutandabout (I think) in an earlier thread said, it makes every trip an adventure even if just to the grandparents or shops, for little and big kids.
Andy, mine is my daily runner. Fitted eberspacher diesel heater and heated Windscreen to cover winter comforts. New seat foam and covers from exmoor trim.
I have to admit I am leaning to Defender, a true car you will own for life. My biggest worry is it getting stolen in town when the dog is in it. Car can be replaced, dog's not so easy.
Need to research the engine options a bit. TD5 is obvious choice, needs to tow a 3500kg trailer and be okay to drive into London or other cities that start introducing LEZs (will probably be the Bristol Mayors next move)
Andyl, if you get an early Puma you will have a cracking heater, will be LEV compliant, be pretty comfy, and should come in at not much more than the same age D3. I know which one I would have. If you offset the extra purchase price over lack of depreciation and MUCH smaller bills then it is a no brainer.
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This is not helping my D3 or Defender decisions.
I've still got a plan knocking around in the back of my head to put a stretched 110 body on a D3 chassis.......... 😉
I've still got a plan knocking around in the back of my head to put a stretched 110 body on a D3 chassis..........
I had a similar idea.
Or maybe I should do the opposite? Comfort but easy to fix underneath? 😀
I did see a 130 twin cab I liked the look of. Wonder if that will fit into supermarket car park spaces?
I would actually quite like to do a plug in hybrid Defender with say 20 mile electric range for when stuck in traffic jams. That is probably right up your street but a bit slower than what you are used to.
Andyl, if you get an early Puma you will have a cracking heater, will be LEV compliant, be pretty comfy, and should come in at not much more than the same age D3.
Don't know much about the Puma engines. I did see some different sizes, 2.2 and 2.4? Any experience of a 3500kg trailer on the back of one?
I've still got a plan knocking around in the back of my head to put a stretched 110 body on a D3 chassis..........
Has the D3 not got an integral body/chassis? Seem to remember that was one of the reasons it was so horrifyingly heavy.
I thought D2 had the last 'proper' ladder frame chassis (or did before they all rusted away!)
The first Pumas (follow on from the TD5) had the 2.4 engine. This became the 2.2 about 2-3 years ago. Both engines are Ford units as used in the transit. Very strong and go well. Easily pull 3.5 tonne all day long. If you are planning to do a lot of towing though I would definitely go for the 110 over a 90.
However, a D3 is also a fantastic tow vehicle and unless your heart really wants a defender then it may well suit you better. They will both cost you a lot of money. The defender may end up costing far less in the long term if you want one and are rpepared to live with its' shortcomings.
D3/D4 are separate lower chassis, with a monocoque unitary body on top! The issue with putting a 110 body on one is that the D3/D4 is about 150mm wider track, and the D3 chassis probably isn't quite strong enough on it's own (110 body has NO rigidity in itself), so you'd have to cage it to put the strength back in)
Our ex-RAF 90 was "birthed" in 1986 according the MOD service record a friend pulled off the computer. Around ten years later it was demobbed an bought by somebody who turned it into a 90 hard top. We bought it and spent quite a lot of cash adding all kinds of Defender bits like an assisted clutch, PAS, wash/wipe and intermittent, a Q transfer box and loads of other small mods like a radio and Trakkers seats. It was the family car we had when our son was born.
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The RAF service record was an amazing document; 27 pages of detailed records of all the work it had done at the taxpayer's expense; two crash rebuilds and countless other repairs, role changes and refurbs, the odo reading went as far as 125,000 miles then started again and it had around 96,000 on when we bought it so potentially it was a 225,000 mile vehicle yet it drove as good and tight as new. We got it with front steering and suspension components that were so new they still had the LR barcode labels on them.
When Mrs Gti bought a Citroen C1 that did 65 mpg the poor old 90 became redundant and eventually we took the hard decision to sell it. The boke who bougt it had zero mechanical sympathy and told us he just wanted something "to run into the ground".
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tbh I am starting to think Range Rover over D3 as a lot of them are one owner, no expense spared, had an easy life compared to a lot of D3s that have high miles and have been well used as company cars.
Won't be doing a huge amount of towing, just sheep moves, the odd car move, construction materials etc.
Currently have a small 8x5 2 ton trailer that is the Feelanders max. Id does it well and the bonus is as the OHs daily driver it will get 400 miles out of a 60 litre tank (450 if I drive it) but I need a new car and want to get a bigger trailer.
I saw a very good condition grey 2004 high spec manual D2 with 119k on the clock for £4k but hesitated and it got snapped up.
Not all td5 are Lez compliant think 2002 onward withe the newer dash are
If I had my choices again I'd have a 300tdi over a td5 or skip to a puma but don't like huge mileage 150-170 is about it from friends who run vans. But engine change in fender is easy
LEZ compliance depends on seating and classification for the TD5 IIRC.
i can see older diesels being targeted more and more by cities wanting to reduce pollution.
Mine a 110 ht (van) so that might be part of it. I got a nice notice with my tax renewal the other year saying it was not Lez
Also it's an early year 2000 one. Later ones have better emmsissons rating
Some early puma ones attract a huge rfl charge but I forget the years affected
probably 2006 onwards.
2005 and early 2006 D3 are £280, later 2006 on are £500 😯
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big licks on mine over the weekend.
engine bays done. bonnets on and radiator mounts dropped so the bonnet shuts and latches.
doors both shut - still need to play about with alignment to be perfect but well within tollerance for now and both keep most of the water out 😀 that intake needs cut down something chronic - its fully sealed up back to the turbo but if anything gets that high for the intake im going to need an air intake to breath ! could do with being back at screen level.
new (heated) screen in - fitted it with rustymacs help - breaking out in sweats at the thought of doing it but its a piece of piss when you know how. practiced on the old screen you see and learned how not to do it.
the dark stain onthe ground was where the steering pipes running along the front of the chassis burst during filling up and bleeding- sprayed everywhere.
Needs new shoes - the plan was for limestone steels - i picked up 4 from here but it turns out i can only run 7.50 x 16s as they are only 5.5" wide which are eye wateringly expensive. 235x85x16 BFG muds looking more likely on a set of limestone disco steelies.
Working on interior now and hoping to present for an MOT shortly - for the first time in 4 years.
If someone is planning on towing a 3.5 tonne trailer think carefully if it is for work. My brother was doing just that but to be legal the actually weight he could carry was not worth the trailer. It was metal work mind. No idea of the technicalities of it though.
Thanks stoner!!
Matt you mean because he didny fit a tacho.
This is our Discovery which we rescued in Lyme Regis from a trip to the breakers last year.
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She needed a new mot and a small amount of welding work, new discs & pads, and some tlc to the bodywork. We also fitted a second hand bumper as this had rusted after an earlier bump.
Amazingly easy to service & work on. After a 2500 mile round trip to Denmark she sprung a small leak in the radiator matrix. Probably due to living at the seaside for many years. A second hand unit from a local car was bought and fitted in one day, including removing the intercooler and cleaning it out with paraffin.
She has all the original parts, the interiors like new although the next job for the summer might be the sagging headlining.
She also became the bridesmaid's transport to the church for our wedding last year, so is now part of the family.
The above photo was taken at Lokken in Denmark where you can drive up the coast for miles past german WW2 derelict bunkers that have fallen down off the beach head.
AndyL - I have a 130 as a work vehicle, it is a touch bigger than a parking space but it is mostly tow bar and the year tubs don't look right straight anyway. Run TD5, 2.4 and 2.2, was dubious of the 2.2 initially, but been pulling full loads of timber, diggers and tractors fine. 2.2 is closer geared so tows smoother than the 2.4 in my opinion, but not so gutsy with it.
In a previous job I had a D3 for shifting marquee kit, very good tow vehicle, loads of power, composed, comfy. But an entirely different engine and we ran an auto for manoeuvrability. Could definitely pull more than 3.5t, 18' trailer loaded as high as the D3 plus king poles.
AndyL - or the same length as a hilux, got those in the yard too.