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10 miles from the city centre I can just about afford a 2 bedroom box semi-detatched in an average area. If I stray to 20-25 miles out I can see, for the same price, 3 and 4 bedroom sandstone detatcheds with drive and more than ample garden. NUTS! I may have to extend that commute!
In the centre of Newcastle my girlfriend and I can get a nice semi detatched. Move out into the country and we start talking about how many acres of land. But, as most of our daily lives are spent at or travelling to/from work it makes more sense to live near by so we get as much free time as possible.
There must be something wrong with them, other than the commute, it just doesnt make sense 😯
where I live, the nearer the city you get, the cheaper things get
but that's Bratfud for you 😉
It sure is. My one/two bed flat in leith could be swapped for a 3 bed house in one of the central belt towns, or a nice detached house with land in the borders, or a mansion in the highlands.
Probably get me a decent house in the north of England a a small flat in London
T.J. In our little corner of North England, prices are stupidly high.
My sister lives in a much sort after area of Cheshire and her house is half the size of ours and 50k more.
Try [url= http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=canberra&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=43.031571,93.164063&ie=UTF8&ll=-35.294392,149.008942&spn=0.29591,0.98877&z=11 ]here[/url] lots of affordable housing no rush hour 40 mins max across the city when it's busy some fantastic trails and bike parks within 20 mins of the centre. I am seriously considering the move!!
Bunnyhop - I was thinking more about the M62 corridor towns. Footballers Cheshire has always been pricey - I used to live in South Manchester - where I could get a Edwardian 3 bed semi for the price of my wee attic flat.
Back from where I came from, (20 miles outside of Liverpool) I could have bought a fairly nice 3 bed semi with drive, garage and gardens for 130k with ease, in a decent area. That'll bearly get you a mid-terrace box in the Glasgow commuter belt, unless you want to live in Springburn. I wanted to stay north of the city (like being close to the hills/trails) but down in north ayreshire its a damn sight cheaper.
Cheshire - where new money and old money collide.
I moved out of West London to near Leatherhead. For 50% more than my old 3 bed terrace I have a largish 4 bed detached house with over 1/3 acre (not that big really but nice). When I have seen one of those TV buy house programmes I see how much more I could get in some very attractive places away from the commuter area of London but I have all I need here whilst still being closish to places I might have to go for work. One day a few acres would be nice though!
Just [i]imagine[/i] what you could buy in Mogadishu for the same money...
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"wee attic flat" !!! It's a veritable palace TJ, hardly a garret bedsit. 😉
My 'wee 1 bedroom flat' in the very posh part of South Manchester ( Bramhall), helped pay for our much larger house, big garden with garage, 6 miles away, just 'cos the postcode is considered rubbish.
Did come as a shock when paying more for my the insurance.
mudshark 'where new money collides with old money', too true.
... this is one of the main reason I decided to leave the country....
all this rubbish housing on top of each other for toooo much money..
Its still only a one / two bedroom attic flat Jojo. Its just crazy the variations in prices even across relatively small distances. I couldn't swap my flat for a house anywhere in Edinburgh - but go 50+ miles south or north and I could get a nice detached house and garden for the same cost
Back from where I came from, (20 miles outside of Liverpool) I could have bought a fairly nice 3 bed semi with drive, garage and gardens for 130k with ease, in a decent area. That'll bearly get you a mid-terrace box in the Glasgow commuter belt, unless you want to live in Springburn. I wanted to stay north of the city (like being close to the hills/trails) but down in north ayreshire its a damn sight cheaper.
Liverpool is very expensive now. I live "over the water" and you get more for less.
Liverpool is very expensive now. I live "over the water" and you get more for less.
My parents place (17 miles from Liverpool in a quiet village) is only valued at 130 and thats one of the larger houses in the village, most come in around 100k with 3 car drives and 2-3 bedrooms and a direct rail link to manc/liv. I'm sure the centre and immediate outskirts of liv are probably a lot more now, especially with the nice new expensive paving down edge lane 😀
My house on the edge of Southampton is about £250K after the recent drops. We were looking to move last year when our house was about £300K.
Nothing in the nicer areas of Southampton or the New Forest was even close to what we have now in terms of house and nice sized garden for less than £650K
but down in north ayreshire its a damn sight cheaper.
Whereabouts are you looking? North Ayrshire is pretty grim with a couple of exceptions.
Stewarton (technically not north?), howwood, beith, lochwinnoch, kilbarchan - that sort of place - not near the main belly of the city but a field or 3 away. Any knowledge of the area is appreciated! I'm fairly used to the north of glasgow by now but never spend time in the south. My boss lives in a farmhouse in the fields out there but thats not quite the same as living in a town which is likely to be my only choice!
Stewarton's a strange place. Half of it's hell on earth, half of it's nice. The nice bit is mainly populated by folk commuting to Glasgow. Good train links with Glasgow. The M77 isn't great for commuting. Although it's safer than the old A77 it doesn't shave a lot off journey times at rush hour.
Howwood I don't know much about.
Beith, I think may be a bit shitty but don't quote me.
Lochwinnoch isn't too bad.
Kilbarchan is really nice, though there's a pretty grim bit called Miliken Park just next to it that less than moral estate agents may class as Kilbarchan. In Kilbarchan proper I imagine the property prices are high.
Seems to be the problem with the Glasgow area - all the nice bits have a hole dumped right next to them and you need to spend hours driving about them to figure out which may or may not suffer ned-invasion. Beith seems nice enough from the outside, I worry about kilbarchan as its so close to other less pleasant areas.
Stewarton is a total unknown to me. I think I'll spend the weekend scoping them out!
What are the glasgow commute times like from places like Stewarton? I know people coming in from beith who do it happily in 25-30 mins but rarely at rush hour, I may need to adapt my whole commute method. I'd use the train if it were cheap enough but I'd also need a 15 minute subway run to the west end too (where I work).
Its quite stressful, this house hunting.
Stewarton has a back road all the way to the southside and is quiet and quick but it's still a hike into the city centre. The alternative is the M77. It's usually queued back to at last the Barrhead Rd junction in the mornings and it's slow moving as it merges with the M8.
The train service from Stewarton would get you to Glasgow in half an hour, then you could walk round to Buchanan St for the underground.
A big 400yr old manor house & 60acres of grounds down the road from me has just come to sale. £4.5million guide price, eek!
Can always dream, i suppose... 🙁
Just imagine what you could buy in Mogadishu for the same money...
It's funny you should mention that. Only the other day Mrs North and I were contemplating a long term plan to move out of Manchester to the countryside, when [i]BAM[/i] out of the blue she said "Mogadishu. That's where we can move to."
So now we're jumping on a cheap flight on an ex-military DC10 from Casablanca, arming ourselves with second hand Kalashnikovs, and going for a weekend's house hunting. What recession!
Blimey, OMITN; how weird is that? Only yesterday, I was discussing with my mate,about possibly going to stay in Bradford, for a while!
Uncanny, eh? 🙂
Nice one rudeboy. Don't you know only the locals are allowed to diss their town?
Kilbarchan is really nice, though there's a pretty grim bit called Miliken Park just next to it that less than moral estate agents may class as Kilbarchan. In Kilbarchan proper I imagine the property prices are high.
Yep, Millikan Park is a hell-hole - too close to Spateston and an area of Johnstone called "Howwood Road" (truely, unbelieveably scummy). Kilbarchan itself is decent enough but a bit quiet. Johnstone has it's good and bad bits - luckily I grew up in one of the better bits for 25 years. But there's not much in the way of interesting local (cycling distance) biking in that area - all you've got is Glennifer Braes behind Paisley and it's not that exciting.
Johnstone, etc. does have the benefit of 4 trains per hour to Glasgow, and it's a <20min journey to Glasgow Central. Me, I'd rather be nearer good trails and face a longer commute.
a11y - thanks for the info, I've noted it down on my house hunting map in the form of smiley and sad faces!
I'm not too worried about having things to do and generally drive to trails anyway as there are none immediately local to where I am now either - I bought an uber-efficient wheeled-box just for that purpose 🙂 Really what I'm looking for is a quiet village with as few idiots running/driving around as possible in a non-towny environment if poss! Plus I then have to run it by the missus too 🙂
Try [url= http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=canberra&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=43.031571,93.164063&ie=UTF8&ll=-35.294392,149.008942&spn=0.249954,0.439453&t=h&z=11&iwloc=A ]here[/url] lots of affordable housing no rush hour 40 mins max across the city when it's busy some fantastic trails and bike parks within 20 mins of the centre. I am seriously considering the move!!
except that Canberra is cold, wet (for Aus - think a rough Autumn in UK) and boring. Not too sure how you got affordable either; all the politicians spending their subsidies means its actual not all that great for down here.
Adelaide, well, I won't tell you - the trails will get too busy 😉
Blimey, OMITN; how weird is that? Only yesterday, I was discussing with my mate,about possibly going to stay in Bradford, for a while!
Good plan. Though remember that RPGs as a minimum are the recommended weapons of choice for a quiet night out in Bradford.... 😉