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I love that film

Me too 😆

Dyfed-Powys Police received a report of a perceived hate incident

I mean seriously ! FFS.

Ms Mulholland said people painting their faces black "continues to be used today to belittle and mock people of colour".

If they'd had a Smurf Movie theme they'd have been blue. A Minions theme they'd have been yellow. The characters in that movie are Jamaican.....

I can't see it as a "hate" incident.

Smurfs and Minions are not people Scotroutes. wow that is low!

Shirley they were just representing Miners coming out of the Pits, ya'

I like that "blackface" is one word.

when does blacking up to cause offence become dressing up as a film character?

It's not racist but that won't stop people claiming that it is.

It's one of those things you don't do, but I can't see any of them rushing off to join a white supremacist group or anything.

Also, the Labour councillor seems to be trying to initiate a game of competitive being offended with the Lib Dem councillor.

If they were paying tribute to the film, and the characters in the film, possibly the opposite of a "hate" incident?

A daft thing to do though, as someone was bound to be offended.

Another thing - can you imagine anyone who is actually racist blacking up?

It's been deemed offensive for the last 20 years as far as I can remember, try googling the celebs who keep trying it. It's about twice a year these days

Yep, Blacking up isn't acceptable.

Context, isn't it.

Ms Mulholland said people painting their faces black "continues to be used today to belittle and mock people of colour".

This may well be true, but they weren't mocking anyone, they were celebrating them. If I shaved my beard off to cosplay a character that was clean-shaven, that wouldn't make me beardist.

To turn this around; what if they'd produced a Cool Runnings float and not used make-up? They'd probably be accused of whitewashing.

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I don't recall one single example of that. She's talking shite. The minstrels stopped years ago!

I'd hope it wasn't intended to be racist and that everyone involved probably thought it was a bit of fun but there's a history associated with blackface which means it carries a greater significance than just dressing up as film character. So while it might not be overtly racist it is definitely racially insensitive and that should be enough of a reason not to do it.

Also why? Cool Running is hardly topical.

Cool Running is hardly topical.

It is in Wales which is stuck in the mid nineties* 😉

#metaracist

*only jokin'

Here's a picture of me in fancy dress as Ba Baracus...

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I would like to see a statement from Elizabeth Evans, LibDem councillor for Aberaeron who was at the carnival today, denouncing this

Good job she's not using this awful incident as a means of desperately trying to embarrass her political opponent...

Hate crimes need to be 'motivated by hostility'.

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Just found out they won the most original float and the most humorous float categories too!

Apparently everyone was cheering as they went past and joining in with the song.

Hate crimes need to be 'motivated by hostility'.

Not any more according to the CPS.

Another racist earlier..
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/if-you-choose-to-wear-blackface-on-halloween-youre-just-plain-racist_us_580f692ce4b000d0b1588dda

If you’re planning to wear blackface this Halloween, take a step back. Look at your life; look at your choices. Is it really necessary to blacken your skin in order to portray a black character or celebrity? Do you truly feel that doing this isn’t demeaning to the people who have to walk in this skin every day and don’t have the luxury of washing it off at the end of the night? If you consider all these things and you still decide to go for it: congratulations, you’re being racist.

So this Halloween, blackface wearers, you do not get the benefit of the doubt. Do not act indignant, shocked, or surprised if you get called out for wearing a racist costume. Don’t say that you didn’t know blackface was bad. Don’t compare wearing blackface to something harmless like wearing a wig. Don’t claim innocence. Don’t complain about political correctness. Don’t pull the “reverse racism” card. Just admit it. Just admit that you knew your costume was messed up, and you decided to wear it anyway.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/hate-crime/

Suggests there still has to be an element of hostility to support charging.

It'd be interesting to see what would have happened had the same float been travelling through Notting Hill...

It'd be interesting to see what would have happened had the same float been travelling through Notting Hill...

's a Hill innit?

They'd have been on that bobsleigh and made it almost all the way to the bottom before they crashed.
The initially hostile crowd would have applauded their plucky spirit.

The lucky egg survives intact.

Do you truly feel that doing this isn’t demeaning to the people who have to walk in this skin every day and don’t have the luxury of washing it off at the end of the night? If you consider all these things and you still decide to go for it: congratulations, you’re being racist.

Seems to me that this is more racist, it's practically portraying coloured skin as a disability. Those poor people who have to suffer having black skin, every day.

Well the point being it's been considered unacceptable for a long time. I'm amazed the numbers who think it's still acceptable these days, makes the casual sexism threads seem progressive

Seems to me that this is more racist, it's practically portraying coloured skin as a disability. Those poor people who have to suffer having black skin, every day.

😆 @ PP and agree with Cougar... why would you want to wash it off the colour of your skin?

There's a reasonable school of thought that says that a forum that is predominantly white, and therefore has very likely never been or will be subject to racism, shouldn't attempt to define what is or isn't racist.

why would you want to wash it off the colour of your skin?

I dunno, maybe because people define you by it? And that definition is often derogatory and/or discriminatory?

I dunno, maybe because people define you by it? And that definition is often derogatory and/or discriminatory?

Fair point, so what colour would a white person become if they washed off their colour?

If they'd had a Smurf Movie theme they'd have been blue. A Minions theme they'd have been yellow.

You're ignoring the context.

Neither Smurfs nor Minions have a centuries long history of oppression; nor is there a history of people painting their faces yellow or blue to mock them. So the two things are not comparable.

It is encouraging that so many people have no idea why this is in such poor taste, however it still is, because of historical baggage. Choose another costume.

so what colour would a white person become if they washed off their colour?

I've no idea, nor about why they would ever feel the need to.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bfb1fUTXCy0 🙂

Do you truly feel that doing this isn’t demeaning to the people who have to walk in this skin every day and don’t have the luxury of washing it off at the end of the night?

what the actual ffff

Seems to me that this is more racist, it's practically portraying coloured skin as a disability.

No, it's pointing out that being black is still a disadvantage in many areas of society.

what the actual ffff

What's your point?

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It's a bit of an odd thing to do as society has moved on but I'm sure they're intention wasn't to belittle another race.

That said apparently Meme's and smilies of anything other than your enthnic origin make you racist too according to some on here.

Good job they missed the Robertson's jam float that followed.