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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24835322


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:19 pm
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Yes ,the detail is rubbish.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:20 pm
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This one was apparently

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Posted : 06/11/2013 2:21 pm
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Won a fancy dress competition for halloween dressed as thew Twin towers

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It is in poor taste for sure and pretty poor as outfits go

Offensive to some for sur ebut it really makes them just look a bit dumb to me tbh


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:21 pm
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To most westerners, I'd guess "yes".

To me, pretty poor taste, and but barely worthy of comment.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:22 pm
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I'd echo the tasteless comments, but I would add that, if I'd lost someone in 9/11, I probably would find that pretty ****ing offensive. Would they have gone as an exploding Pan Am flight 103? Or bomb-laden Omagh Vauxhall Cavelier? I'd hope not.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:25 pm
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No more than this, in the scheme of things possibly less;

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Posted : 06/11/2013 2:26 pm
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[i] pretty poor as outfits go[/i]

Everyone's a critic


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:26 pm
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Of course they wore the costumes to offend..... unless they are both utterly thick.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:27 pm
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Seamlessly shoehorns another dating comment into thread for DezB 😉


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:28 pm
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Likes nightclubs, poor taste and shopping vouchers


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:31 pm
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Likes twins...that will do wont it 😉


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:32 pm
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[i]Likes twins[/i]

Nights in with a dvd, log fires, twins, breathing...


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:36 pm
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This one was apparently

Why? Am I missing something?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:37 pm
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no worse than a jimmy saville outfit, both all about horror.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:37 pm
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Who went as WTC7?... and is he/she still standing?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:37 pm
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[i]Why? Am I missing something? [/i]

Boston Marathon bombing.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:38 pm
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Why? Am I missing something?

Boston marathon.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 2:39 pm
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Boston marathon.

Ahhhh.
I thought it was a period joke.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 3:48 pm
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Posted : 06/11/2013 3:52 pm
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I'm not offended, therefore it's not offensive.

Isn't that how it works?

Pretty bloody original though, got to give them that.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 4:09 pm
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I thought it was a period joke.

You and me both!


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:38 pm
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Inject them with crack then apply "Taken" ... 😯


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:40 pm
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Not offensive and quite good really.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:41 pm
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The saddest thing is those stupid girls would only have been about 8 in 2001. Is that how quickly something the true horror of an event like 9/11 slips out of the public consciousness or is it so normal to them that they couldn't understand it would cause offense. Or are they just terminally stupid bints?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:43 pm
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Nothing says success in fancy dress quite like having to write what it is you're dressed as on the side.

I find the lack of a depiction of nano-thermite or whatever the **** it is that the truthers are fantasising about today offensive.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:50 pm
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The saddest thing is those stupid girls would only have been about 8 in 2001. Is that how quickly something the true horror of an event like 9/11 slips out of the public consciousness or is it so normal to them that they couldn't understand it would cause offense. Or are they just terminally stupid bints?

I found the Last of the Summer Wine wanted posters in the aftermath of the London bombings funny. Laughing at horrible stuff is what humour was invented for.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 5:56 pm
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Doesn't offend me. In poor taste yes, but personally I found my particularly hairy mate dressed as Lara Croft much more offensive.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 6:00 pm
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Yes, the crashing plane and flames is particularly offensive


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 6:06 pm
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Not even a tiny bit offended.

I am the only one to find it overwhelmingly sexually arousing?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 6:10 pm
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I am the only one to find it overwhelmingly sexually arousing?

The period girl or the twins?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 6:46 pm
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Not that offensive really in its context. I guess the people at the event didn't find it that offensive otherwise it wouldn't have won.

I guess the media will now publicise to all the "rent a mob" brigade who can be offended and outraged at something they would never otherwise have been aware.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 6:56 pm
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There are always tasteless jokes after disasters .Space Shuttle Cocktail anyone ?


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 7:04 pm
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Seem as if one of the students dads was a pilot in the usa at the time of the plane crash, and he is reported as saying he is not happy and will be having a word with his daughter.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 7:12 pm
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Seem as if one of the students dads was a pilot in the usa at the time of the plane crash, and he is reported as saying he is not happy and will be having a word with his daughter.

How is any of this news ?

Two people nobody knows go to a party.
Something that some people may have found offensive if they were there happened, but they weren't.
Someone's dad is a pilot and isn't happy.

My give a shit'ometeter must be broken because it hasn't moved.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 7:19 pm
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offensive - yes
GAS - not really
sad they for any publicity really

Those two remind of a girl that Bobby Davro got on stage once. He turned to her and said, "I would like to FU stupid," and just as the girl started to smile he added, " But I see that someone has beaten me to it." I have never worked in an environment where you could get away with that. 😉

Come to think of it, it was pretty offensive too!!!


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 7:28 pm
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Takes plebs minds off 450,000 refused dole this year for not looking for a job,

mass redundancies in 3 shipyards,

bullying at a major hospital and a serious coverup by failed management,

mass protests last night in london, and manchester and other places round the world,

and lots of other news,but then you can choose what is news and what isnt,and comment on it , cant you.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 7:29 pm
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Here here Project


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 8:35 pm
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I guess things just look less offensive from a distance. In this case, a couple of hundred years makes it OK to dress a child to look like a man responsible for some 4 million deaths. Maybe Prince Harrys great-great grandchildren will get away with the nazi uniform.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 8:53 pm
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Laughing at horrible stuff is what humour was invented for.

Exactly.

Tragedy + Time = Comedy


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 9:30 pm
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What's slightly different is that they didn't dress as the person responsible but as the act itself. Would it have been OK to dress as a blown up London bus, or as Auschwitz? I'm not an easily offended hand-wringer but it crossed a line for me, more for it's capacity to offend those closer to the tragedy than anything else. Having said that they're not evil people or anything, just very very stupid. And with a couple of years to go before graduation they've already ruled themselves out of a lot of graduate jobs. Competition is fierce and Google doesn't forget.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 9:31 pm
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Anyway, it seems some on STW don't like fancy dress. My friends in the Fancy Dress media will be very interested in this...


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 9:34 pm
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Not as offensive as what I've just thought of.......


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 9:36 pm
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I'm going to a birthday bash on Saturday which is fancy dress & I was wondering what/who to go as but now I know. I'll go as a lorry driver & have a little explanation of who I am on a label on my back cos no-one will have a clue otherwise.....

http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2013/07/tipper-truck-driver-who-killed-cyclist-spared-jail/

Simple costume as well. Jeans, rigger boots, T shirt etc.

Don't think It'll offend anyone. What do you reckon?


 
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I'm going to a birthday bash on Saturday which is fancy dress & I was wondering what/who to go as but now I know. I'll go as a lorry driver & have a little explanation of who I am on a label on my back cos no-one will have a clue otherwise.....

http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2013/07/tipper-truck-driver-who-killed-cyclist-spared-jail/

Simple costume as well. Jeans, rigger boots, T shirt etc.

Don't think It'll offend anyone. What do you reckon?

Very low.


 
Posted : 06/11/2013 9:52 pm
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Nope, don't care. Go as a member of the Taliban if you like.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 8:13 am
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Extremely offensive. They are clearly just very stupid.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 8:38 am
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Personally it only gives the slightest twitch on my give a shit o'meter.
Very poor taste, but offensive? Not to me. I think theres far more offensive things that go on these days, but are tolerated by society.
Im thinking along the lines 2000 dead every year from motoring accidents, cyclists being killed in accidents and drivers walking away with the slightest ticking off, people like Joey Essex and Jordan actually making a good living by being cretinous and stupid, the rise of rampant celebrity workship is pretty sickening.


 
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The collective spiritual IQ of the nation could be significantly increased by gathering all those that are offended into a tall building and flying a passenger jet into it..


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 9:41 am
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2000 dead every year from motoring accidents

Significant difference between 2000 being killed in [u]accidents[/u] over a 365 day time frame and 250,000 sq/km land. To 3000 people being [u]murdered[/u] in a matter of minutes.

The collective spiritual IQ of the nation could be significantly increased by gathering all those that are offended into a tall building and flying a passenger jet into it..

Bizarre statement. The moral compass of the nation could be swung back in the right direction by doing the same for those who think this is acceptable.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 9:55 am
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What about going as Jimmy Saville with wife as a schoolgirl?
Too much?


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 9:57 am
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LHS - you are completely wrong.. Trying to revert back to Victorian standards of repressed pomposity is not in any way progressive.. Have a word with yourself.. Lighten up

This is exactly what I mean about spiritual IQ


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:02 am
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LHS +1 yunki's comment is probably more offensive than costumes due to the obvious intent. Maybe after he gets his proposed Bible 2.0 tattooed on his arm, he be able to reflect on why?


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:05 am
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LHS - you are completely wrong..

You forgot to add in your personal opinion.

I think that it is in the news, people are apologising and their choice of costume has been widely criticised suggests that maybe other people find it offensive too. If you don't that's fine, your choice. I would suggest however that your moral compass needs to be assessed.


 
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Of course my comment was more offensive ffs!

facepalm


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:06 am
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you are completely wrong..

Conflict resolved. Next? 🙂


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:13 am
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I just deal with stating the facts.. Conflicts resolution is two doors down


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:16 am
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I thougt the second one was Paula Rad after jetting one out in the marathon.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 10:41 am
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Offensive - potentially.
Poorly judgement - oh yes.
Worthy of being in the press - certainly not.
Worthy of punishment - maybe a few quiet words about sensitivity nothing more.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 11:23 am
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Nope not in the least, it was an event that I saw on TV many years ago, didn't personally affect me at all bar longer to go through airports.

Is it horror ? Yes
Bad taste ? Definitely

But what of things like the vicars outfit with a choirboy attached at the waist ?

Yet another ax ample of people finding things to be outraged about rather than actually looking at the real problems that should be solved - how many did Blair and Bush kill in Iraq ? North of 100,000 I assume


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 12:08 pm
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Takes plebs minds off

There's that word again....

Now, apparently, that IS offensive. I demand an inquiry.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 12:10 pm
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Nope not in the least, it was an event that I saw on TV many years ago, didn't personally affect me at all bar longer to go through airports.

So because it didn't personally affect you (which is very cold) it isn't offensive? That's a nice selfish view of the world.

But what of things like the vicars outfit with a choirboy attached at the waist ?

Poking fun at child abuse - I would class that as offensive.

how many did Blair and Bush kill in Iraq ? North of 100,000 I assume

So if someone made a fancy dress costume dressed as Bush depicting slaughtered Iraqis at his feet, you would find this offensive?


 
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looking at the real problems that should be solved - how many did Blair and Bush kill in Iraq ? North of 100,000 I assume

You don't feel that maybe 9/11 set Iraq and Afghanistan in motion?

Anyway I'm glad that nothing's offensive any more, I think I'll dress up as the battle of the Somme this Sunday. Should be s laugh, eh?


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 12:22 pm
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Nothings offensive if it didn't happen to you init. 🙄


 
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So if someone made a fancy dress costume dressed as Bush depicting slaughtered Iraqis at his feet, you would find this offensive?

Yes it probably would, but that would be because the costume itself was in bad taste rather than talking about the event itself. I probably would have said the same thing of this one if it had had action man and barbie jumping to their deaths

It may come across as cold (ok def does) but I just get really tired of all the faux outrage pumped out by the media these days, sorry if that offends but it is just my humble opinion.


 
Posted : 07/11/2013 12:26 pm
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boston marathon costume hotty has nsfw pics

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Is it really in any way 'offensive' compared with countless real atrocities happening all over the world, every day?

No. Those 'offended' need to get a grip ffs. Far more important things we should be concerning ourselves with than two naiive young women doing something a bit misjudged.


 
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That's a bizarre argument. It may not be [i]more[/i] offensive than other real (?) atrocities but why would it be [i]less[/i] offensive?

The thing about offensiveness is that it's not about your or mine individual reaction, it's about the potential to offend. Surely you can see that a survivor or victim's relative could be shocked and upset by these costumes? That's what makes them offensive. What makes it newsworthy is that they reference the biggest and most shocking news story of our lives, and that they contradict the widely held standard of respect for the dead.


 
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What makes it newsworthy is that they reference the biggest and most shocking news story of our lives, and that they contradict the widely held standard of respect for the dead.

Just one thought, if they were only 8 or so when this happened, for them it is a historical event, so I suppose it would be a bit like one of us middle age farts wearing a Stalin costume to a party ?


 
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I guess things just look less offensive from a distance. In this case, a couple of hundred years makes it OK to dress a child to look like a man responsible for some 4 million deaths. Maybe Prince Harrys great-great grandchildren will get away with the nazi uniform.

Dressing up as nazis and doing funny walks was normal and offense-free in the 70s and 80s. It was so mainstream that TV shows were full of it.

We've just turned into a nation of hand-wringing, humorless, permanently offended fannies.


 
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We've just turned into a nation of hand-wringing, humorless, permanently offended fannies.

He says in a humourless hand-wringing and highly offended manner.


 
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He says in a humourless hand-wringing and highly offended manner.

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Posted : 08/11/2013 10:21 am
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What makes it newsworthy is that they reference the biggest and most shocking news story of our lives, and that they contradict the widely held standard of respect for the dead.

It comes a distant second to the 2004 tsunami where 230,000 died, although American deaths are clearly far more important than Asian deaths.

It's not newsworthy at all, if they were important people who should know better, it should be reported. Students being stupid is just that, and the reaction is just media enforced empathy.


 
Posted : 08/11/2013 10:25 am
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It comes a distant second to the 2004 tsunami where 230,000 died

That's not the point.

Which of the following costumes would be offensive

1. Twin towers
2. Depicting people drowning in a Tsunami
3. Depicting the holocaust
4. Jimmy Saville molesting a child?

Answer, all of the above. It might be to YOU that only one of them is offensive (or none based on some of the responses on here), but when you bring in the general population they could find 1, 2, 3 or all 4 offensive.


 
Posted : 08/11/2013 10:31 am
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That's not the point.

That was the point I was replying to.

And yes they are all offensive, it doesn't mean parading two silly girls all over the media for doing something a bit stupid is the right thing to do either.

Frankly their initial stupidity has just been used as an excuse for some mass bullying.


 
Posted : 08/11/2013 10:36 am
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parading two silly girls all over the media for doing something a bit stupid is the right thing to do either

Agreed. That wasn't the question of the thread though.


 
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Answer, all of the above. It might be to YOU that only one of them is offensive (or none based on some of the responses on here), but when you bring in the general population they could find 1, 2, 3 or all 4 offensive.

So basically if one person in the general population may be offended we shouldn't do something ?

I find fat people with muffin tops offensive we should force them to all wear burkas ..... Oh hang on some may be offended by that ....damn


 
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Agreed. That wasn't the question of the thread though.

No.

But it was the point of the post he was replying to.

He even quoted it, to make it easy for people to figure out what point he was replying to.

Not really sure why you disagreed, considering that you actually agree 😕


 
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It comes a distant second to the 2004 tsunami

Fair enough, that doesn't mean it's not [i]one of[/i] the biggest events in our lifetime though.

It's not newsworthy at all

I disagree. It's prompted some debate here and elsewhere and been picked up by news outlets worldwide. I'd say that does make it newsworthy.

It might be to YOU that only one of them is offensive (or none based on some of the responses on here), but when you bring in the general population they could find 1, 2, 3 or all 4 offensive.

That is indeed the point I was trying to make.

So basically if one person in the general population may be offended we shouldn't do something ?

Well no, obviously not. Any given subject has the ability to offend some people. For example a topless woman on a beach in Europe is unlikely to offend many, but the same topless woman in a muslim country is much more likely to offend. Said imaginary woman would likely pay some attention to the context before deciding how much flesh to bare. In this case, I think some common sense would dictate that because of the nature of the event, and the large number of people directly or indirectly affected, there was a pretty high potential to cause offence.


 
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Fair enough, but was anyone at the actual event actually offended? Given that they won 1st prize. So if you're talking about 'context', then maybe this situation has now been taken out of context, and all ensuing arguments are therefore rendered invalid?


 
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