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I would [s]piss[/s] shit my pants [s]laughing[/s] if Corbyn was PM
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20c lower than 12 months ago, thats the important impact on the economy
best bit of Mays speech...
At this moment of enormous national significance there should be unity here in Westminster, but instead there is division.[u][b]The country is coming together[/b][/u], but Westminster is not.
who is she trying to kid?
cranberry - Member
Kimbers - How's that pound doing now ?
not sure, how much is a jar of marmite?
cranberry - MemberKimbers - How's that pound doing now ?
It has soared to a 2 month high. So still ****ed.
The best hope long term against Brexit (or getting it substantially reversed at some point in the future) is demographics - put simply Brexies will die sooner.It's just a bonus if the electorate returns an anti-Brexit Commons.
Wow some bizarre logic here, demographics don't suddenly change so no chances of a reversal anytime soon.
As for an anti-Brexit commmons, that could only come with a Lib Dem supported by a rag tag nationalist collective. Never going to happen.
Can someone please reassure me that Alan Sugar hasn't got time to run for [s]president[/s] prime minister?*
*hell of a lot more chance than Jezzer winning it.
Oh well, Ill be fine - lots of emaciated Northerners will be appearing on Red Cross tv adverts looking folorn, surrounded by their own shit and flies in a year or two though.
It's almost worth voting Tory for actually...
Wow some bizarre logic here, demographics don't suddenly change so no chances of a reversal anytime soon.
Turnout among younger pro EU voters was low and is generally low. Finding a way to mobilize this group in one direction would sway the balance, the challenge is to harness the angry youth into a probably pro EU party
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We also need people asking each candidate what their views on Brexit are, what they stand for, what their red lines are and what they want from it.
kimbers - Membernot sure, how much is a jar of marmite?
Don't eat it, what's your best price on custard? 💡
I want them to revoke the magna carta, put us back on the groat and reinstate the feudal system.
the challenge is to harness the angry youth into a probably pro EU party
The challenge is getting an angry youth. Most are not bothered enough to get angry and certainly not bothered enough to go and vote.
The challenge is getting an angry youth. Most are not bothered enough to get angry and certainly not bothered enough to go and vote.
Ah, they are angry enough, unfortunately will vent their spleen on Facebook and forget to bother doing the thing that might make an impact, like voting.
It'll be interesting how the UKIP vote might pan out. Hopefully they will just disappear int the ether, I suspect in Con strongholds that might be what will happen. Will be interesting the more Labour heartlands that voted to leave whether they disappear or get emboldened. Can see them sneaking the odd seat in the North which will just sum up how much of a shambles Lab are at the moment.
It'll be interesting how the UKIP vote might pan out.
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theres one of several reasons May chose to break her early election promise now
still aaron banks is standing against carswell, hopefully both will be utterly humiliated
Ah, they are angry enough, unfortunately will vent their spleen on Facebook and forget to bother doing the thing that might make an impact, like voting.
Hence the word challenge in there, don't expect them to know where or how to go or vote. There is a reason they don't bother to vote, you have a system that doesn't represent people who are young, that has taken everything from them and created the first generation that will be worse off than their parents. That will not own houses, that will have to deal with the problems left.
Corbyn and May don't represent or understand them.
Yay! I'm all for a General Election.
I know who I'll be voting for, it will not be for the BullshiteBrexshiteSelfPromotingMorons.
It's about time we all reverted to an Intellectual Political System.
I think Brexit will be a non issue. It's going to happen, even the Lib Dems are only talking of tempering it.
Let's concentrate on the real issues. With Brexit happening regardless, what are parties going to do about affordable housing, job creation, the NHS? How do we get people to turn out and vote, rather than return to the lethargy of previous elections? How do we stop the media droning on and on for 7 weeks and boring people into apathy?
Thinking about it, Labour could refuse to back the Tories and deny the GE.
The Fixed Term act was implemented to stop parties calling GEs for party political reasons rather than in the best interests of the UK.
Labour have sided with the Tories they have shown that they will not stop Brexit but simply seek to ensure their supporters do not lose out.
The Tories are calling an election for purely party reasons and not for the greater good.
kimbers - Member
best bit of Mays speech...[b]The country is coming together[/b], but Westminster is not.
who is she trying to kid?
Remember, this is the era of 'I said it so it's obviously true' politics...
It's about time we all reverted to an Intellectual Political System.
We have an Intellectually Deficient System.
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So which one is it?
think Brexit will be a non issue
I don't think I've ever heard those words in that order before!
With potential candidates like James Cracknell surely the Tories have it in the bag? 🙂
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We're in a weird situation at the moment, I don't think any (relatively) sane politician would want to be PM for the next couple of years. The economy isn't actually flourishing and Brexit is just going to make things worse (at best) at least in the short run. Anyone that is PM through Brexit won't get re-elected afterwards. I'm not even sure any of the 3 main parties want to be in power at the moment either, again you're just going to end up stained with fallout from Brexit.
It would have been better if she'd called this before triggering Article 50 and left it up to the parties to to make it a manifesto commitment whether or not they'd continue with Brexit, although I'm not sure where that would stand legally given the referendum has already happened. I might be wrong but I would guess a party could get elected on the basis of not triggering Brexit now the facts about the repercussions are better understood.
Anything to avoid giving May an open mandate to do whatever she feels like. I don't care whether the Lib Dems or Labour have the best personalities or not, this is about sending a strong message to May.
If she wants to use the GE to strengthen her Brexit position, then we shouldn't let it happen.
Of course the unpleasant bit is that under our wonderful voting system it only needs a 30 odd percent vote to end up with a majority government.
We thought 52/48 was a bit rough.
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although I'm not sure where that would stand legally given the referendum has already happened.
The referendum had no legal weight whatsoever
The referendum had no legal weight whatsoever
Burn him for defying the will of the people!
So 7 weeks of political comment in the media by the commentators who got it so wrong last year?
Joy.
as slowldman says - the crappy first past the post system means the referendum % split won't translate into GE results. Can only foresee a fairly depressing outcome, as much as i'd like to see a shock result. It is also depressingly good timing for May, being able to kill labour and UKIP and deliver us all into hard Brexit fantasyland free of troublesome opposition/accountability.
SO, as Brexit will be the main theme of the election, surely it should be the 2017 General Br-election?
EDIT - Also, won't a GE get in the way somewhat of the already tight Brexit negotiations deadline?
I think STW is going to need some more diskspace!
Also, won't a GE get in the way somewhat of the already tight Brexit negotiations deadline?
Yup - that's exactly why Mrs May swore blind we wouldn't have one...
Yup - that's exactly why Mrs May swore blind we wouldn't have one...
That was before the entire country united behind the glorious leader minus those evil elites in westminster who are against the will of the people.
bet we dont hear a peep from Jezzer for the next 7 weeks.
mrchrispy - Member
bet we dont hear a peep from Jezzer for the next 7 weeks.
Will probably increase his vote
Maybe she means to "bring together [the Labour party in] Westminster" as she recognises they're bloody useless as an opposition under Corbyn and she really is acting in the best interest of us all? They'll either forget their differences and fight the election instead of each other or they'll wait till after, (hoping he doesn't get his seat returned to make their job easier) and have rid after their dismal GE performance.
*maybe someone spiked my coffee.
I've never felt so disenfranchised. 😥
What effect do we think the £10 min wage policy will have?
A lot of people are on minimum wage, that's a big fat increase.
martinhutch - Member
It's about time we all reverted to an Intellectual Political System.
We have an Intellectually Deficient System.POSTED 1 HOUR AGO # REPORT-POST
That mans a chuffing idiot. Here is no intellect in that man whatsoever.
Odd you chose a pic of IDS.
bikebouy - Membermartinhutch - Member
It's about time we all reverted to an Intellectual Political System.
We have an Intellectually Deficient System.POSTED 1 HOUR AGO # REPORT-POST
That mans a chuffing idiot. Here is no intellect in that man whatsoever.
Odd you chose a pic of IDS.
Quoted for later lols. 🙂
Something a friend just mentioned,
If he loses the GE (as is likely), Corbyn will have to stand down won't he? Hard to lead a party after failing an election.