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. Appalling things these debates pointless.
Hahahah
jambalaya - MemberAppalling things these debates pointless. I'm going to be out for a ride
That's not something I ever thought I would hear jambalaya say.
And why are you going out for a ride, shouldn't you be canvassing leafleting, stuffing envelopes, etc?
Are you that sure of a Tory landslide victory that you don't feel the need to do any work?
Corbyn has won this election.
Been there done that in the last few weeks @ernie. Plus I've voted already.
As I have posted before having watched Presidential debates in the late 80's/early 90's I can't bear the format
75-100 seat majority remains my call
75-100 seat majority remains my call
You've halved your prediction?
I think that only knocks 50 seats off his last prediction.
He may welll be right.
Amber Rudd must be loving this. This is her pitch to take over when the tories commit regicide. I wouldn't be surprised if Chairman May wasn't even given the choice to attend and they sent out Rudd instead. I predict she'll be doing lots of damning with faint praise.
75-100 seat majority remains my call
True to form, Jambalaya seems to have issues with the word 'remains'.You've halved your prediction?
Jezza knocking it out the park! Takes down the tory-UKIP tag team in one go. Amber Rudd and Paul Nuttall looking like bosom buddies. I'm not sure that's what the tories are aiming for.
Once you've cynically jettisoned what slender threads of morality you possessed, why not just openly court racists?
Mishal's losing control here.
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I think Amber Rudd is doing quite a good job given the toxic hand she was dealt by her leader.
the point is better than her leader
Why did they let a non leader turn up?
Cannot wait till we hear strong and stable mentioned
Deputy Theresa: "Judge us on our record". Everyone laughs. Ouch.
Noted that Rudd avoided Strong and Stable phrase. She is doing well despite a rubbish hand being dealt. Corbyn is on form and will come out of this really well...who would have guessed!
Poor form, Mishal bringing up his memory lapse.
Not her job, that's for the other candidates.
Edit, again with Farron, asking the Tories questions for them.
Poor at keeping things under control too, just standing by watching them all talk over each other like children.
Useless
Non-partisan audience you say? Its like a pantomime of growning at Amber and applauding Jeremy
Watching it now. Lab and Cons were absolutely mental to do this either with leaders or substitutes. They've given air time with a large audience to parties/people that wouldn't otherwise have it, and those people are making pretty good use of it.
A gift from the Red and Blue parties to their opponents.
I reckon Fallon's played a blinder so far this election (the two occasions he's made the news) but he's trying far too hard tonight IMHO. He's practically shouting 'look at me look at me'.
They should turn off the mikes of the ones who aren't talking.
[quote=greentricky ]Non-partisan audience you say? Its like a pantomime of growning at Amber and applauding Jeremy
well she does keep saying stupid things so what do you expect them to do ?
Fallon seems to be just THE EU THE EU
Lab and Cons were absolutely mental to do this either with leaders or substitutes
Whoever wins the election will have brexit to deal with, I imagine all the European PM's club stance will be a much tougher crowd.
They are trolling UKIP so hard right now, poor Paul looks ready to explode
PFt he has had much more pressure than this when he was Phd Student working as a pro footballer .....he will take it all in his stride
Good to see everyone finds them odious
Wrong thread ... 
Amber Rudd is actually doing ok. The massive problem for the tories though is that from this point forward everyone's going to be thinking that the wrong woman is in charge, and that's going to massively undermine May and her 'vote for me, and only me' campaign.
I think she had a hard card to play with may not showing and she has done ok but they still just say strong and stable, corbyn is shit it is all about brexit
May is shaping up to be the biggest casualty of this election. Who'd have thunk it eh?
Best line I've seen tonight
"The lady's not for turning (up)"
This website tells you your best bet for tactical voting to avoid a Tory majority:
There again, there could be a 'turn up' for the books anyway...
I am in Labour stronghold but I have voted for Conservative. ๐
Well done.
Didn't know there were any labour strongholds in the Home Counties.
igm - Member
Well done.Didn't know there were any labour strongholds in the Home Counties.
Oh yes I am in a die hard Labour stronghold with majority 12 to 15 thousand or something like that.
It will be very interesting if this place falls, which I really look forward to because Labour has been here for too long. ๐
I don't think Russian shills are allowed to vote chewy ๐ฅ
[b]chewkw[/b] - [u]I have voted for Conservative[/u].
Mods can Chewkw have a tag line like this? ๐
[quote=ctk ] chewkw - I have voted for Conservative.
Mods can Chewkw have a tag line like this?
I'll look into adding it as a feature in STW forum tools ๐
Well right now the headline on the main BBC news page - a site which certainly hasn't recently shown any signs of favouring Labour - is "Rivals attack May for missing TV debate". Of course things might have been worse if she had turned up, but ISTM the thing most people are going to be talking about is her cowardice. It may not have changed many minds, but I certainly can't see the Tory vote share increasing after tonight.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/31/the-hand-is-left-to-do-the-heavy-lifting-while-maybot-reboots ]John Crace [/url]
Funny piece on the debates in the guardian. Speak to the Hand lol
aracer - Memberctk ยป chewkw - I have voted for Conservative.
Mods can Chewkw have a tag line like this?I'll look into adding it as a feature in STW forum tools
8)
[i]have you not read my manifesto?"[/i]
Amber Rudd.
Looks like the positioning for the succession has started in earnest.only if she hasn't been killed by tomorrow, obviously
kimbers - Member
for chewk
Remember if the Conservative wins this election it is still not good enough. Conservative MUST be in govt for at least 2 generations or at least 6 terms continuously.
If UK elect a Labour govt in this or next two generations then UK will suffer a terminal decline that will seal the fate of it's entire nation. When that happens there is really no turning back which means the end of UK.
You think Labour can hold together UK? ๐ When that happens UK will be split into 3 parts ... Scotland, United Ireland and England while Wales remains as part of the old UK.
Anyone that thinks Labour or EU bureaucratic system is the way forward then they are dooming their next generations. ๐
ctk - Member
aracer - Memberctk ยป chewkw - I have voted for Conservative.
Mods can Chewkw have a tag line like this?I'll look into adding it as a feature in STW forum tools
That will be good. ๐
edit: oh yes ... my advice above (previous reply) is free and I told you so here. ๐
Rudd was definitely handed the poisoned chalice and, to give her credit, she fronted up despite her father having died on monday.
frankconway - Member
Rudd was definitely handed the poisoned chalice and, to give her credit, she fronted up despite her father having died on monday.
Rudd is fine as she is while the media is up to their usual tricks of trying to spin out sensationalised dramatic news to earn their keep. ๐
What Labour needs to look our for is their Deputy "Elton John" Watson who is in the background trying to take over at anytime. Its written all over his face that he will back stab. ๐
As usual Corbyn's enemy is not Conservative but his own internal party members, they will over run him if he form a govt. They are more "Tories than Tories" with the exception that they sell the concept of helping the poor but in reality helping themselves. Now that you don't see coming but I do. ๐
[quote=chewkw ]You think Labour can hold together UK? When that happens UK will be split into 3 parts ... Scotland, United Ireland and England while Wales remains as part of the old UK.
Because it's Labour which set up the conditions which are likely to lead to Scottish independence and huge issues over an internal hard border in Ireland? I do remember that right don't I?
(yes, yes I know JY, but he's almost making a point which it's possible to debate with here and occasionally I like to give him a chance to try and put a coherent defence together).
