[Closed] Is May about to call an election?

Thats a huge death tax, party of low tax eh?

Jeremy *unt knocked that one back on Today. It's not a tax, definitely not. Just a different means of removing money from the public to put into government funds, but not a tax. At all.

now she's telling us she can get total net down to 5 figures?

That is net - you have to take into account the people fleeing in lifeboats when the whole house goes up in flames 😉

I thought it was also quite telling that Jeremy *unt, on Today, classes the fabled 'Just About Managing' as having 100 grand or more in assets

The tory death tax is not going down well on 5live this morning, which is always a good barometer of the opinions of reactionary Daily Mail/The Scum types. Are they trying to lose this election? Even Comrade Corbyn didn't dare suggest that people should pay for their old age care out of their kid's inheritances.

it's a good stick to beat them with at the [b]doorstep [/b]for sure, knock knock "lets talk about the tory death tax, did you know they will taking this when you die to pay for your care...." bing bong "lets talk...."

If ever a party could throw an election this is how to do it. Almost their entire base is made up of better off Pensioners, many who are independent types not wanting to call on the state for anything and many might even prefer a trip to Switzerland than care at the hands of the state. Certainly they won't want anything they might wish to hand down to their children depleted by that state, this is a very stupid move.

Certainly not a price I want to pay just to have her handle Brexit negotiations.

For all the uproar, it is no different to the current situation but allows the deferred payment which is done on a case by case basis by local authority. The new rules means it is available to all and they have a higher allowance too. Hardly the huge death tax.

http://www.ageuk.org.uk/home-and-care/care-homes/the-means-test-and-your-property/

Hardly the huge death tax

Next you'll be telling me that corbyn isn't a dangerous commie with a Bobby Sands tattoo across his back 🙄

is theresa may trying to throw this election?

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TM earlier announcing her immigration policy

I have no problem with the elderly having to use there assets to fund care, £100,000 is still a large inheritance. Being able to pass on money down the generations doesn't help those who come from families with nothing. However the proposal doesn't answer the issue of the poor and old and it won't affect the super rich who would use private care anyway. Inheritance tax would be fairer and would share the money around better but of course that would impact the super rich too.
The Tories are good and making the comfortably well off think the poor are the problem and the poor think that the comfortably well off are no different from the super rich. the super rich then continue to escape taxation whilst the middle and bottom bare the brunt. This time I think they may have misjudged it.

Next you'll be telling me that corbyn isn't a dangerous commie with a Bobby Sands tattoo across his back

Is he a commie? Unlike Putin I've never seen him shirtless so no idea what he has tattooed on his back, could be Margaret Thatcher for all I know or just little bird on his shoulder. Do you have any insight to either of your statements?

so i'd be better off selling my house and spunking the cash prior to getting getting old(er) and not able to wipe my own arse.

No incentive to save money or buy a home then.

Id honestly rather book a one way flight to switzerland than see my assets stripped away and given to some private company.

I have found him shirtless but can't see back so still don't know if he has tattoos
https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/768436972746661888

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Id honestly rather book a one way flight to switzerland than see my assets stripped away and given to some private company.

This. Mrs Daz is currently working as a social worker doing Deprivation of Liberty assessments for those in care. She's been in just about every care home in Calderdale and beyond, and says the standards of care and facilities in many of them are shocking. It'd be nice to think this extra money will go towards improving this, but in a privatised industry I think we all know what will happen. Much like the way housing benefit bankrolls avaricious landlords, this will do the same for private care providers. The principle of people who can afford it paying more towards their care in old age is a good one, but this is the worst possible implementation of it.

I foresee a massive increase in interest-only mortgages. Why own your house outright? Just be sure to keep your own stake at 100K, and pay the interest...

*unt was appalling on the Today program, he can't be expecting to cling on after the election, surely.

"...a country where it doesn't matter where you come from, but where you're going to..."

😆

Oh my god, this is cringeworthy.

We've had the "...many who would will us to fail..." line.

I've lost count on "strong/stronger" now.

Not feeling 'Mainstream' then?

Strong and stable?

Stable and strong?
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MUUUUUUUUUMMMMYYYYYYYYYY!!!![/b]

Not been listening very carefully. Has she actually talked about any policies yet?

Oh, it's finished. Is that it?

Oh Christ!!! She finished with a Churchill quote!

Did I hear a Spitfire make a flypast?

So she wants to hit people on marriage visas again, by increasing the earnings threshold and increasing NHS charges.

Ive spent 2 years now with a constant feeling of paranoia - despite us earning a decent amount and having private healthcare (which doesnt lower the NHS surcharge) - this shit is going to end up with me on valium.

She punishes the people with the least voice - whilst companies like my old one got away with rampant tier 2 visa abuse.

She's either trying to lose it or just being as crap as possible for some sort of dare.

Sky news have just been interviewing pensioners in Gloucester. They are seriously not happy! They looked utterly confused as to how the tories could do this to them. This could quite possibly be the biggest policy cock-up by a political party in a general election campaign in a very long time. Talk about suicide notes 🙂

TBH if it wasn't for the marriage visa rules - I'd be tempted to vote Tory as I'd quite enjoy bathing in the crocodile tears of pensioners.

She's either trying to lose it or just being as crap as possible for some sort of dare.

only if viewed from a more left wing perspective. How it looks to Tory and possible Tory voters is what matters. We'll find that out by June 9th.

Crocodile Tears are fake tears shed for someone else's misfortune. They don't have the legendary moisturising properties of genuine babyboomer tears. 🙂

They've designed that manifesto to piss off as many voters as possible from all sides including their own. Quite remarkable. She really is an incompetent quarter-wit.

They've voted once already to **** up the prospects of their children and grandchildren. What makes you think they won't do it again....

Manifesto here:
[url= https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf ]https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf[/url]
BBC summary here:
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39960311 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39960311[/url]

Seems a lot of spending promises, with unclear methods of paying for them.
Excellent news the tax free allowance will be increased further.
Not so excellent news for rich pensioners.

How it looks to Tory and possible Tory voters

Betrayal? Taking their votes for granted? Punishing the successful and hardworking? To quote one I heard on the radio this morning "I haven't worked my entire life and paid taxes only for the government to take my kid's inheritance away from them".

I still can't actually believe they've proposed this. It's not surprising given their propensity for coming up with stupid policies that their supporters will hate (eg increasing taxes for the self-employed), but this time they can't do the traditional u-turn as it's their flagship policy! Corbyn and co must be laughing their **** off.

Increase the personal allowance to £12,500 and the higher rate to £50,000 by 2020

So how much will that cost?

Probably nothing, as it will never happen, hence the 2020 clause.

Crocodile Tears are fake tears shed for someone else's misfortune. They don't have the legendary moisturising properties of genuine babyboomer tears.

I'm almost tempted to make a return trip to my local this evening - which I've barred myself from, after a bit of an 'incident'.

I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory... A TORY leader hasn't suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter 😆

I still can't actually believe they've proposed this.

I can. I remember how incompetent she was as Home Secretary. A godawful crap middle management type who is completely unsuitable for statesmanship.

Corbyn is Mr Clunky but at least when he speaks, turds don't splatter out of his mouth.

Mr Clunky

thats ok with me 🙂

I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory... A TORY leader hasn't suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter

It really is a shrewd move though. These folks are so far under Dacre's thumb that there really is no alternative vote for Labour or even Liberal, and they are normally in safe Tory seats.

This election is May being ambitious and trying to pick up middle-aged voters in non-traditional Tory areas. She wants to make Tory marginals into safe seats in future elections.

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I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory... A TORY leader hasn't suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter

Do you need reminding what we baby boomers went through for the likes of you? 😉

So how much will that cost?

Probably nothing, as it will never happen, hence the 2020 clause.

Strange conclusion - after all, the personal allowance has risen from £6.5k to £11.5k under the evil Tories

I can. I remember how incompetent she was as Home Secretary. A godawful crap middle management type who is completely unsuitable for statesmanship.

this

shes was impressively incompetent as home sec, who knows what she will manage to balls up the next 5 years of crucial brexit negotiations!

Strange conclusion - after all, the personal allowance has risen from £6.5k to £11.5k under the evil Tories

Wasn't this a Libdem policy the Tories carried on with?

who knows what might balls up teh next 5 years & brexit negotiations!

Is that still a foregone conclusion? Probably, but for the next 3 weeks she's going to be defending what labour are calling the 'dementia tax' and the removal of the triple lock, instead of talking about brexit. Labour were already on the up and she's now gone and presented them with the biggest gift they couldn't ever have imagined.

Do you need reminding what we baby boomers went through for the likes of you?

You mean like a fully funded NHS, free university education, the prospect of actually getting on the property ladder, stable employment...

Life must have been hell.

free university education,

You missed University Grants as well.

You missed University Grants as well.

And better drugs.