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To expect our neighbors to train their dog to stop barking at us through their lounge window when I am coming or going day or night, or just fettling with my bikes or whatever. I have had issues with them over the dog as the problem used to be a lot worse, however they think because we got a cat (thanks molgrips hes brill) and the cat goes over to there's we somehow did this on purpose to antagonize the dog, how do I train a cat to do that ffs, anyway tonight I arrived home and the dog started barking at me yet again so I went over and banged on the window, nutjob wife comes out and I explain why I did that, she just mutters and goes back in, anyway a bit later she comes around and bangs on my window and as I open the front door she says we have to sort this out, my reply is yes you train your dog to stop barking at me every day and then we won't have a problem many words later I tell her to go away and go to shut my front door, then the mad women puts her foot on my door to stop me from shutting it she does this a few times until I told her in no uncertain terms to eff off you mad cow and used a lot more force to shut my door even with her foot in place.

Why am I seen to be the unreasonable one for wanting to come and on my property without their dog barking, the bloody thing is couped up all day in the house is some kind of sheep dog they got from RSPCA, they call it a house dog ffs.

Sorry for the rant and breath.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:36 pm
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why does it bother you that much that the dog barks at you for a couple of minutes each day?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:39 pm
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Is this a subtle rehash of Mr Nutts allotment problem?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:41 pm
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Why wouldn't it?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:41 pm
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Have a word with the council's environmental dept. Someone in our street has a couple of bark bark dogs which used to keep us awake at night, so we reported them. Within two weeks the problem was solved.

Better than dealing with someone who's unreasonable...


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:43 pm
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You're human, the dog is only a dog. Try to rise above it.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:43 pm
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Yup you are and here are some full stops you can sprinkle in your post.............................................


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:44 pm
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Fettle your bikes where the dog can't see you? Is it just when you walk past his house?


 
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I think it's entirely unreasonable.

Even more unreasonable is banging on a house window. In fact responding to a barking dog by banging on the window puts you in a light similar to the 'mad cow'.


 
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why does it bother you that much that the dog barks at you for a couple of minutes each day?

Because I had to ask them to stop their dog from keeping us awake and inform the council before they did anything about it, I asked nicely then they got really funny about it, so it stems from there. They are in the lounge watching tv they could easily stop it from barking at me but they don't.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:44 pm
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Report it if you want - noise nuisance the council, to the rspca for neglect.

Make your neighbours really hate you,


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:44 pm
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Isnt the whole idea of a dog to bark to warn the owner of an aproaching stranger, and to protect its owner.

Bit like a police car with a siren.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:48 pm
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Have you had a bad day at work? You sound stressed.

Feed it some special meat. With "stuff" on it.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:49 pm
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In answer to your question, yes you are being unreasonable. And a major cock (and thats being polite). Banging on the window will likely encourage the dog to bark more btw.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:52 pm
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Project I'm not a stranger I just live next door, the neighbors on the other side have two dogs and they keep them under control and they don't bark.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:52 pm
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So she was insistent that you talk it through and sort things out, and you wanted to break her foot off...
Hmmm...


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:52 pm
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Look on the bright side, at least you have a guard dog that you dont have to feed or walk looking after your bikes 😀


 
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Even more unreasonable is banging on a house window. In fact responding to a barking dog by banging on the window puts you in a light similar to the 'mad cow'.
+ many


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:53 pm
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Ive also got a neighbour with a barky dog, but its behind a high fence, so when it barks i bark back, it stops then, perhaps try it and see.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:54 pm
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So, project - have you already been round to the OPs gaff and fitted up the webcam?


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:55 pm
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Yes banging on the window is unreasonable and annoying, thats why I did it to make a point of how annoying there dog is being, Their choice and right to get a dog but not when it impacts on there neighbours.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:56 pm
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Classic "OP flame-a-thon" thread, text book stuff guys, you've made a difference today 🙄


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 10:58 pm
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Why shouldn't you be able to fix your bike on your own property without constant, avoidable noise pollution?

How would people like it if neighbours constantly played loud music through an open window everytime they went into their own garden?

You could:
Report this to the RSPCA, preferably the branch they got the dog from.
They would definitely be interested, especially if the dog isn't being excercised.

Keep a diary detailing the problem - contact the council.


 
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How would people like it if neighbours constantly played loud music through an open window everytime they went into their own garden?
Wot choons?


 
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Posted : 13/03/2012 11:01 pm
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to the rspca for neglect.

How the **** is a barking dog grounds for neglect?


 
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Banged on the window! That dog ain't ever going to stop barking at you now!

It's not easy to stop a barking dog, it takes a lot of training and the right type of person to stop it. If the dog considers itself as the "pack leader" within that house I very much doubt they will be able to stop it without specialist help. It's trying to protect it's pack!


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:08 pm
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Get a bigger, barkier dog. You can still win this one.
Or a cockerel.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:09 pm
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Try making friends with the dog. Maybe it'll stop barking when it knows who you are.


 
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to the rspca for neglect.

How the **** is a barking dog grounds for neglect?

'Sheep dog' type, kept in house all day and never excercised = neglect.

The RSPCA wouldn't have rehomed the dog with them if they new this was going to happen.
They usually do home visits beforehand and ask questions to ensure this exact type of neglect doesn't occur.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:14 pm
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It might get exercised very well, all because the op doesn't see it taken out doesn't mean it's not exercised.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:18 pm
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It's your fault entirely.

Had you made more effort at school, got a decent job and worked your way up the career ladder to a respectable position, you would now be in the financial position to move to a more affluent area.

As it is, you've made your bed and now have to live next door to scrubbers. Suck it up!

In fact - buy a Staffie.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:18 pm
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It [s]could be[/s] is a [s]child's[/s] dog's face [s]next[/s] this time.

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Posted : 13/03/2012 11:21 pm
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Suck it up!
Nah that would be to easy, and I intend to go back to university now and become a jobless statistic,because there is so many well read people with degrees coming out of their arse living in big houses, not like ill educated plebs who all live in council houses or housing association or dss rentals. The prof next door with the dog my be able to advise me.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:25 pm
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Try making friends with the dog. Maybe it'll stop barking when it knows who you are.
maybe I would if it wasn't locked up in the house, I have offered to walk it!


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:27 pm
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Druidhs is the best advice here, in fact, go further- try and be on better terms with them as well.
Even if it didn't stop the barking I reckon you would be less bothered about it so you'd be happier. You might even find you liked the dog enough to take it out on the trail once in a while. The dog would come to trust you, it would get more exercise and would be calmer. It would just get better and better for everyone, and all it might take is for you to take that step.

EDIT- We crossed posts there, keep trying, good luck.


 
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maybe I would if it wasn't locked up in the house, I have offered to walk it!
Next time you offer, try to make sure you're not carrying anything that looks like a weapon 🙂


 
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Banged on the window! That dog ain't ever going to stop barking at you now!

It's not easy to stop a barking dog, it takes a lot of training and the right type of person to stop it. If the dog considers itself as the "pack leader" within that house I very much doubt they will be able to stop it without specialist help. It's trying to protect it's pack!

The people round the corner from us have a Westie and when you meet her out in the streets with her owner she is timid as a mouse, yet when you go past her garden she runs around barking like crazy at whoever is the side.

I had thought that she was very protective of where she lives, but does it extend to her pack as well?


 
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It would just get better and better for everyone, and all it might take is for you to take that step.
Man - that's just so beautiful. I'm in tears....


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:32 pm
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They have another dog before they got this one,in fact it was to replace their old sheepdog that died, they never barked, so why do they insist on letting this one bark, they think we got our cat to be antagonistic to their dog, how do you reason with people like that, believe me I have tried the nice approach. If I had a dog I would be mortified if it was disturbing my nieghbours and train it properly. The comment that its protecting his pack may be the issue, however there in lies the problem, it should not see itself as the leader, surely the owner should be.


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:39 pm
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They should let their dog chase your cat! Win win situation! I hate cats!


 
Posted : 13/03/2012 11:58 pm
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Get rid of your cat. Simples.

(worst and most pointless animal in the world).


 
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The comment that its protecting his pack may be the issue, however there in lies the problem, it should not see itself as the leader, surely the owner should be.

Ah but you are seeing the dog through human eyes. It's a dog, if it sees it's owner as being weak then it will try to protect, it's a pack mentality. It's all about being calm, assertive and consistent with dogs! If the owners aren't assertive and let the dog get away with things then it becomes the pack leader.


 
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Whenever it barks, blast the most offensive gangsta rap you can find at 130db.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 12:29 am
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Can't we all just learn to get along? Can't we all just be a bit cooler and suck a little bit less?

Dogs bark, it is in their nature. Some dogs bark more than others. They are very territorial. My sisters dog is so annoying sometimes with his barking it drives me nuts - but, if she didn't adopt him - he would have been put down for sure (because that is his defect). And on balance he is a good dog. Anyway, nobody is perfect.

I am sure you will change your mind if/when said dog prevents theiving of your aforementioned currently under-fettled bike.

Get round there with a couple of Bonio's, and get some compromise going on. Maybe if you and Hootch are buddies he won't go so wild when your mug pops into view. Bring him round your yard for a good sniff and a scrunge. Doesn't matter who judges who as being wrong or right, and the point scoring does not help - so just make more effort to make the situation better.

I know I sound like I'm training to be [url= http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/deidre/ ]Dear Dedrie's[/url] replacement, but you can't deny that if we all acted a little cooler by dismissing egomania, grandiosity and pomposity - the world would be a much better place. It only takes a few small changes, and when everybody gets a bit cooler, we all benefit. Be the best you can be - it's easy.

Just think, when everything is resolved - it will have been worth the initial inconvenience, of actually getting together and sorting the issues out. Write it down, tackle the problem bit by bit.

Think about it like this, if you don't get it sorted - you [s]may[/s] will end up on Jeremy Kyle one day. 😯 Good Luck, and I hope it all pans out for you!


 
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