[Closed] "iPad 3 due in days"

what are the advances going to be though thats what im more interested in than a name ....

form change ? better cameras i reckon .... hard to see what else they could do bar make it faster and more laptop like functionality which would be a down side for me

Possibly a quad-core CPU? Higher graphics resolution?

Probably faster CPU and better resolution...

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better resolution would be nice - going from my htc desire s to my sisters ipad 2 feels like quite a step back resolution wise.

USB hosting, SD slot are the main changes

Was there not chat about a smaller screen?

scaredy pants is that your dream list or a macrumour ....

will there be outrage when those things dont appear and people will feel cheated much like they were then the 4s was announced and it wasnt a 5 ....

The most important upgrade???
One of these

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ETA - damn - beaten to it

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(made up shite)

tbh i wished for a usb when i was buying but tbh i very very rarely miss it ..... infact i cant think of a single time ive thought - if only this had a usb port .....but then i didnt buy it to replace a laptop........

better resolution would be nice - going from my htc desire s to my sisters ipad 2 feels like quite a step back resolution wise.

The rumours are that the resolution will quadruple (i.e. double as many pixels horizontally and vertically).

If it does then I'll buy one. The main thing holding me back from the whole eMagazine thing is crap resolution compared to print.

I'm getting three.

The only problem with increasing the res is that apps will probably get broken, unless they've been designed with resolution scaling in mind.

Wasn't the iPad 1 the same res as iPad 2?

Suggestion that the price will increase for the new model, and a slight decrease for the ipad2 - with only an entry level model kept on sale, to make the Kindle Fire/ipad decision less price driven.

The only problem with increasing the res is that apps will probably get broken, unless they've been designed with resolution scaling in mind.

That's why doubling horizontal and vertical makes sense. Makes it very easy to automatically scale up old apps by just doubling each pixel. They did the same thing with the iPhone when they doubled the res for the iPhone 4.

I think a fully-functioning USB port is highly unlikely by the way. It just doesn't fit with the Apple philosophy (a closed system that works).

Thunderbolt perhaps?

trail_rat - Member
what are the advances going to be though .....

..... slightly better than the last one but not quite as good as the next one ?

I think a fully-functioning USB port is highly unlikely by the way. It just doesn't fit with the Apple philosophy (a closed system that works).

I agree, unfortunately. Just seems a PITA when everything else is USB connected.

I'd take an SD slot as an alternative though

Just seems a PITA when everything else is USB connected.

Yep, but that's part of the problem. EVERYTHING is USB these days which either means you have to provide drivers for anything and everything that can be attached to a USB port, or you allow manufacturers to supply drivers, or you have a USB port that only works with a few select things.
All of which confuses users and is a pain to support.

I'd take an SD slot as an alternative though

Yep that'd be good. They already have USB and SD with the Camera Connector so they could offer something like that built-in.

I'd take an SD slot as an alternative though

Which would go against all Apple's pricing strategy - can't see that happening either.

yep - i guess their phillosophy is buy a macbook air if you need those features ....

My bet is that there will be no USB or SD.
It's all cloud innit.
I'm hoping for increase in resolution though. After the iPhone 4, the iPad looks a little poor for reading.

Means more work for me, as companies will revisit iPad software for the increased resolution. Large Photoshop files will ensue 🙂

Large Photoshop files will ensue

Requiring a decent means of file transfer 🙄

Theres no way it'll have a USB host or SD card slot. I used to want stuff like that back in the old Windows Mobile 2003 days, but it seems a bit unnecessary now. Its far easier to sync things with Dropbox or similar isn't it?

Requiring a decent means of file transfer

Apps that use documents/files can have files dragged and dropped onto them while connected to iTunes. Not ideal, but it works.

Good apps can impement their own solutions of course:

I quite like AcePlayer (for playing video) it can connect to any UPnP/DLNA/Media servers on your wi-fi and download or stream video from them. It can also present itself as a webserver so your network can see it. Plus it operates as a Web, FTP or Samba client for downloading off the net.
(Oh and it plays all the formats that QuickTime can't handle, like WMV and XVid)

If it does then I'll buy one. The main thing holding me back from the whole eMagazine thing is crap resolution compared to print.

Main thing holding me back is accidentally dropping £500 worth down the Gary 😀

"Requiring a decent means of file transfer "

i just email files back and forth these days - wifi is plenty quick.....

Are you in the habit of dropping magazines down the bog? 😕
Wouldn't like to be your plumber!

dropbox is the way to go. My laptop hasnt left the office in months.

As above, dropbox.

FWIW, I do like that I can plug USB things into my Android tablet even if it's just occassionally but TBH with Apple pushing 'cloud' technology, it'd seem to be against their strategy to add a hardware connection that wasn't already there.

I do like that I can plug USB things into my Android tablet even if it's just occassionally

How does 'droid deal with the drivers quandary I mentioned above? Does it allow custom drivers or do only certain generalised USB things work (like Mass Storage and Cameras)?

No SD slot would be the killer for me (well that and being forced to do things the apple way thru itunes). Especially when one of the main selling points is social viewing of photos on a bigger screen than a camera.

TBH, plug in messy dongles and cables isn't really the Apple way. Mind you 90% of ipads never leave the home anyway, so using an ipad away from home to view pics is probably quite rare.

I'll stick with my tablet with flip out (proper) keyboard that cost a fraction of the price and has 3x the number of USB ports as the Macbook Air, and runs apps for free, with a choice of "stores"...

No SD slot would be the killer for me

As mentioned there is an add-on SD slot for the existing iPads:
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runs apps for free

I'm not aware of Apple charging me to run any apps...

No SD slot would be the killer for me (well that and being forced to do things the apple way thru itunes). Especially when one of the main selling points is social viewing of photos on a bigger screen than a camera.

If you *really* want to stick with the old outdated way of copying files around with memory sticks and SD cards, there is this..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NEEWER-USB-SD-Reader-Apple/dp/B0052W2L6M/

EDIT d'oh, too slow

How does 'droid deal with the drivers quandary I mentioned above? Does it allow custom drivers or do only certain generalised USB things work (like Mass Storage and Cameras)?

Er... to quote, 'it just works'. No idea as I haven't had to. I imagine more complex things would require a specific app to replicate drivers.

"tablet with flip out (proper) keyboard that cost a fraction of the price and has 3x the number of USB ports "

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andyrocketeers tablet with flip out keyboard yesterday 😉

If you *really* want to stick with the old outdated way of copying files around with memory sticks and SD cards,

The alternative being???

but TBH with Apple pushing 'cloud' technology, it'd seem to be against their strategy

And how to connect to this "cloud"???

The appeal of the tablet format has a lot to do with it's portability - ie away from the house / wifi / itunes

via wifi or 3g ......

doesnt even have to be apples payed (after 5gb) for cloud system .....

i really like the link up though between cloud and my iphone - i can be in another country taking photos on my iphone and the mrs can view them just by turning on the tv via the cloud without me uploading them to anywhere. (now that may not be a huge concern for most people but im often in different countrys to the mrs)

I'll stick with my tablet with flip out (proper) keyboard that cost a fraction of the price and has 3x the number of USB ports as the Macbook Air, and runs apps for free, with a choice of "stores"...

Great. Good for you. 🙄

via wifi or 3g

Useless then 😡 outside of the metropolis

I was working away last week in a part of this country where the most up to date network connection was this:

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and yes, there was no handset...

and how long were you there that you couldnt live without uploading life to the world ......

i regularly work in shit holes with no data connections- not even phone signal and manage just fine .....

in ukraine i didnt even have power for a week ! - least of my worrys was how i was going to upload my photos to the world !

I'm going to wait for the the 4.

Theres also this wifi SD card, with apps for Android/iOS etc..

http://www.eye.fi/products/connectx2

Are you in the habit of dropping magazines down the bog?

Habit, no. Has it happened? Yes, and I was pretty pleased it was C+ and not my iPad.

Don't you mean DD+ brassneck?

When I mentioned large photoshop files - obviously those reside on the development computer - not on the iPad!

If you want to use your iPad to process photos taken on another (non-wifi) camera, then I can imagine not being able to easily transfer them being a pain. I guess those SD devices listed above are all you need though.

and how long were you there that you couldnt live without uploading life to the world ......

i regularly work in shit holes with no data connections- not even phone signal and manage just fine .....

And years ago we all used the phone box to call the office... (the younger staff are amazed, a bit like explaining the fax machine)

My point was, for a device marketed on portability, it is largely reliant on additional external supporting infrastructure.

My point was, for a device marketed on portability, it is largely reliant on additional external supporting infrastructure.

Yeah, what we need is a mobile device that can access the internet on the move without needing a mobile signal, wi-fi, or any "external supporting infrastructure"... 😕

Let me know if you have any idea how that might work!

Does this mean cheap iPad 2's?

Difference between "mobile device" (connectivity inferred) and portability... They are not one and the same.

We have been using "portable" devices for 20+ years at work - recording data, downloading loggers, etc, etc. They have never had a pretentions of mobile conectivity, by way of current understanding, but functioned very well in remote and hostile (to electronic kit)locations.

I don't expect to take an iPad out into a wet, muddy field for that sort of work. I expect it to fulfill the modern "mobile device" requirements where 3G, 4G or wifi are available, but still expect it to be able to function to certain degree where these are not available...

As ^^ on this thread, an on my previous one about the iPad and GoPro, the camera connector kit is the obvious fix for my needs, but rather inelegant!

I doubt it the iPad 2 hardly reduced the price of the iPad 1 did it?

If you want to use your iPad to process photos taken on another (non-wifi) camera, then I can imagine not being able to easily transfer them being a pain. I guess those SD devices listed above are all you need though.

It's pretty damn easy, with a very small connector - it will happily read/edit RAW files from my 7D or GF1 as well.

My point was, for a device marketed on portability, it is largely reliant on additional external supporting infrastructure.

I use my ipad all the time without using wifi or 3G - you can do other things than browse the net on it you know.

Useless then outside of the metropolis

Which device is it that you can use on the net without wifi or 3G? It must be very popular.

I don't expect to take an iPad out into a wet, muddy field for that sort of work. I expect it to fulfill the modern "mobile device" requirements where 3G, 4G or wifi are available, but still expect it to be able to function to certain degree where these are not available...

It does - what is it that you think you should be able to do with no mobile/wifi signal that you can't? 😕

Does this mean cheap iPad 2's?

Don't you mean DD+ brassneck?

You've lost me, but trust me that isn't hard 🙂

C+ = Cycling Plus

Don't know why anyone would feel the need for a usb or sd slot, everything is available via iCloud.

iPad/iPhone user and never felt the need for either. The whole iCloud integration is amazing.

I don't expect to take an iPad out into a wet, muddy field for that sort of work.

We're currently doing final trials on IP2s for use offshore on wind turbines. I've not seen one of the final versions yet, but apparently they have a semi-permanent rubber casing. These will get a fair bit of abuse in a relatively hostile environment.

lol @ USB/SD

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like that ?

i have one on my iphone and its ugly as sin but carrying 600 quid phone around with me i want to be sure its reasonably resistant to the elements. looked at the ipad one and for my needs it makes it far far too bulky ! - might as well take the works laptop .....

iPad people - did that idea of writing and drawing on tablet pcs / pads with some sort of stylus take off? I assume it can be done but is it a slick and usable process, or something that is seen as not very useful?

I'd be thinking about drawing chemical structures out freehand and having the facility to save and edit them.

I've not seen it, but I'd imagine so. It's got to dangle from a harness so it's probably got a screen cover.

the lifeproof ip67 rated ones look quite tidy.

gary lager - try sketchbook

ive had a play with it it seems to do what you ask - but i have no need for it haha

Grum,

what photo editting tool do you use for RAW on the Ipad, I have never really bothered looking into photo editing on the ipad as i thought it was not really there, plus my camera used compact flash, but i am thinking of buying a new compact camera to carry aroudn with me which i am sure will have SD and woudl be interested in the possibility of editting and converting RAWs into Jpegs for blogging etc....

Many thanks

Dave

Hi Dave, I use Filterstorm Pro, it's really very impressive IMO and does most of what you can do in Lightroom. There is also a very impressive app called Snapseed that isn't a full photo editor but is very powerful for quick edits with filters/film effects etc.

I have one of those Camera Connectors with USB socket on so you can connect a camera with compact flash via USB and take pictures off it that way. I've done it with my 5D and 7D (though it can take a little while especially with 18MP RAW files).

Grum - thanks, will go and check it out. sadly and strangely i find the idea of being able to edit photos on my ipad exciting.... means i think i can do away with my laptop as that was the only thing I was really keeping it for. I think i might buy them all as they are not really expensive are they!

Cheers again

Dave

There is also a very impressive app called Snapseed that isn't a full photo editor but is very powerful for quick edits

I use that on the iPhone. Excellent bit of software, written by the same guys that wrote Capture NX for Nikon (and allows similar "U-point" style editing too). Great for quickly tweaking phone pics before uploading them to facebook et al.

Keynote is booked for March 7th where the announcement will be. Until then just keep guessing a following the rumor mill - it'll only be confirmed that day.

Yes it'll mean cheaper 2's (marginally anyway) not sure when it'll hit UK shores though - late March I guess.

I'm not an Apple fanboi in the slightest, but I have high hopes for the ipad3. I'm just not sure how to appease my conscience re the way it was produced.

iPad people - did that idea of writing and drawing on tablet pcs / pads with some sort of stylus take off?

'm just not sure how to appease my conscience re the way it was produced.

3 point plan:

Firstly rationalise it by realising that most of your electronics and a lot of clothes were probably made in similar or worse conditions.

Then justify it by telling yourself you are injecting money into very poor areas - so you're actually helping.

Finally trivialise it by admitting that the tiny hands of those little orphans do some really great detail work.

Meh, i still dont get the whole tablet thing regardless of manufacturer....they all seem to be small laptops without some of a laptop's features or very large and impractical smartphones.

They seem to be a solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

If i'm pressed for space i'll take my smartphone....if i have enough space for a tablet then surely i can just take my laptop?

Meh, i still dont get the whole tablet thing regardless of manufacturer....they all seem to be small laptops without some of a laptop's features or very large and impractical smartphones.

They seem to be a solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

If i'm pressed for space i'll take my smartphone....if i have enough space for a tablet then surely i can just take my laptop?

Right, thanks for that.

Sorry for expressing an opinion....maybe i should just hand over my money like a good little consumer for a concept i am yet to be convinced by?

i didnt really see the point until I got one, now I rarely use anything else.

Deviant,

You don't need one then. Congratulations, you've just saved yourself £500+ !

Buy yourself something nice to celebrate

jambo....so it is a replacement for a laptop?

I can see the point in that, what i cant envisage is having the need for both a laptop and a tablet if they have similar functions and features....particularly if one makes the other redundant as you say.

Don't know why anyone would feel the need for a usb or sd slot, everything is available via iCloud.

Putting in an SD slot is hardly going to spoil the sleek lines for the Starbucks crowd, and certainly no more than the proprietary interface connector on the side. Would make viewing and copying photos a lot easier while away from home.

Only other use I might put it to is velcro'd to the back of the bog door, for surfing while taking an Eartha.

Oh and lol @ that pic, but my netbook is black and would never have Windoze installed on it in a million years (although I did consider making it a hackintosh, for all of about 5 minutes).

There's quite a big gap between a phone (which I use quite a lot for browsing as it goes) and a laptop. I have all three and they all get used for different things. The tablet is great for browsing where the phone's too small but the laptop is too bulky - eg reading electronic mags or kindle books, etc or just lying on the sofa where holding a laptop is awkward. A laptop is quite a lot bigger and heavier than a tablet.

Meh, i still dont get the whole tablet thing regardless of manufacturer....they all seem to be small laptops without some of a laptop's features or very large and impractical smartphones.

They seem to be a solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

They seem to be a solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

Form factor matters a lot I think.

Lie in bed. Now try holding your laptop above your head to read an ebook or magazine.

Try the same on the couch. Lounging and holding your laptop in one hand to read, using the other one to flick through stuff.

it's not that you [i]can't[/i] do these things with a laptop (especially one that can rotate the screen and has a touch-sensitive display) it's just that it is [i]nicer[/i] to do on a tablet.

It's just a "better mousetrap" for that kind of use.