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... it's probably best to avoid appearing on live TV.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42638965
Oops. 😆
Pretty steep sentence too, I thought.
The bloke I bought my house from was found guilty of the same thing - he had 2 (young) kids with wife 1. I have no idea how he found the time!
he had 2 (young) kids with wife 1. I have no idea how he found the time!
Probably only took a few minutes each.
The story says she thought he was working overseas. Seems a plausible cover story for bigamy, a job where you're "away with work" for six months of the year.
I couldn't manage one marriage let alone 2.
Deserves a medal? 😉
Bigamy?
Isn't Big Amy a friend of Louise's?
I feel a bit more sorry for the new wife than the old, given they’d been separated for years, not sure I buy the ‘sleepless night and depression’ resulting from finding out. Seems like she’s just twisting the knife a bit.
How stupid can you get!?
Bigamy
Bigly.
wallop - Member
How stupid can you get!?
I know! Double the nagging!
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Now spending a few months a year "working away" for a bit of peace and quiet and bike riding time sounds like a good idea. 2nd wife and family, less so......
Article seems weird, they lived apart for several years..
That said we don't know whether he was stringing wife 1 along or if they couldn't/wouldn't afford to divorce. Who knows, slow news day at the BBC, it's not like there's other important things going on.
I certainly don't have the mental capacity to run 2 chicks at once, it would be like a single core cpu trying to run skyrim.
I have a mate who was seeing other people whilst still married, but thier relationship had completely broken down to the point where the divorce was a very expensive point of contention, and divorce was the only thing they talked about when they rarely met.
I certainly don't have the mental capacity to run 2 chick's at once
Urgh. Oh, and, urgh.
One's more than enough for me thank you!
Urgh. Oh, and, urgh.
I didn't say I wanted the capacity, just that I don't have it 🙂
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Don't forget, 2 wives, 2 mothers in law.
I know someone who does something like this. His job is in a fixed location about 40miles from home, works at the same desk 5 days a week. As far as his wife is concerned he works there two weeks at a time and then two weeks away at another location 300miles away. He bought a cheap flat near work to live in alone during this time (and the weekend to himself in between the two weeks 'away'). Wife is none the wiser. Having met her on occasion I can't really blame the guy.Now spending a few months a year "working away" for a bit of peace and quiet and bike riding time sounds like a good idea. 2nd wife and family, less so......
I certainly don't have the mental capacity to run 2 chicks at once, it would be like a single core cpu trying to run skyrim.
If you ever go on a dating website you have to use this quote next to your photo.
Getting rid of the apostrophe hasn't improved it totally.
Why is it in anyone's interest to jail him and why do the government have the right to tell us how many people we are allowed to marry?
Only 1 wife here, and no intention to add to that but I can't see why this is anybody's business in the 21st century never mind an actual offence.
Because judges and politicians are usually aging old patriarchal men who still harbour the idea that women are fluffy balls of fluffyness that need to be treated with kids gloves, that all men are evil bastards at heart and the only way to tame them is good wholesome Christian living.
We're living in weird times, whereby on the one hand women are constantly fighting for equality and not to be treated like kids whilst on the other hand - laws like this are exploited.
I just asked my wife - she's got far more emotional intelligence than me. She replied that if you're allowed to have two jobs then you should be allowed more than one spouse. I'm even more puzzled but now worried about my (only) marriage as well. 😆
Dear god - no. Just no.
I know someone who does something like this. His job is in a fixed location about 40miles from home, works at the same desk 5 days a week. As far as his wife is concerned he works there two weeks at a time and then two weeks away at another location 300miles away. He bought a cheap flat near work to live in alone during this time (and the weekend to himself in between the two weeks 'away'). Wife is none the wiser. Having met her on occasion I can't really blame the guy.
Soooooo tempting today. My 2nd house would have to be a park bench though. I could make it work.
And there was I, thinking I needed to come up with the names of two women for this thread, that I could happily be married to at the same time. 😆
^that would make a great thread!
Why a man would ever want to marry a woman is a mystery, as far as I am concerned.
But why he should marry 2 women. That's a bigger mystery!
Six xmonths in jail, that has to be worst abuse of public funds I've seen recently, can't someone prosecute the judge for misuse of public funds and squatting a cell that could be better used for keeping a drunk driver off the road.
Why is it in anyone's interest to jail him and why do the government have the right to tell us how many people we are allowed to marry?
Theres the small issue of the wives not knowing about each other. Nothing really stops you from having polygamous relationships but a marriage is a legal contract as well as a romantic relationship. Marriage brings with it all sorts of legal rights and benefits for the partners covering things like inheritance, power of attorney and so on. Being married twice means you're voiding both those contracts without the two people you have those contracts with being aware of it, so they're being defrauded.
I just asked my wife - she's got far more emotional intelligence than me. She replied that if you're allowed to have two jobs then you should be allowed more than one spouse. I'm even more puzzled but now worried about my (only) marriage as well.
she's heard the question before so she had a chance to rehearse the answer 🙂
Only 1 wife here, and no intention to add to that but I can't see why this is anybody's business in the 21st century never mind an actual offence.
Exactly. We rightly criticise countries like Iran for persecuting people for religious crimes like adultery and blasphemy yet here we are sending someone down for 6 months for the same thing. Bloody ridiculous.
I kind of agree with the above but the issue with marriage (and part of the reason I wouldnt do it..) is that it is a legal contract.
So both wives assume they get your stuff if you die etc so by not knowing about each other it is a type of fraud.
Six months?I thought the punishment for bigamy was two mothers in law.
Because judges and politicians are usually aging old patriarchal men who still harbour the idea that women are fluffy balls of fluffyness that need to be treated with kids gloves, that all men are evil bastards at heart and the only way to tame them is good wholesome Christian living.We're living in weird times, whereby on the one hand women are constantly fighting for equality and not to be treated like kids whilst on the other hand - laws like this are exploited.
That’s all great. Apart from the fact that bigamy is also illegal for women.
Don’t let that hold you back though 😉
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That’s all great. Apart from the fact that bigamy is also illegal for women.Don’t let that hold you back though
Honestly, out of interest...
How many women have gone down for bigamy? Do they get similar jail time?
How many women have gone down for bigamy
Well at least once each birthday I'd imagine
dangeourbrain - Member
How many women have gone down for bigamy
Well at least once each birthday I'd imagine
You're not married, are you?
Honestly, out of interest...How many women have gone down for bigamy? Do they get similar jail time?
Absolutely no idea (on either question)
But I’m thinking that any discrepancy in conviction rates, will be due to the fact that fewer women than men are stupid enough to break that particular law.
And in not due to the “patriarchal whateverys” you mentioned 😉
I'm not just talking about conviction rates, but sentencing
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/plaistow-woman-guilty-of-bigamy-1-1154349
Of course, cherry picking one article doesn't constitute a general trend.
There’s no question that the guy made some bad life choices.
Ant & Dec? Really?
I'm not just talking about conviction rates, but sentencing
And I said, I have no idea about either.
Feel free to google your way to proof of your patriarchal ideas though, you might be on to something.
Probably not though 😉
So both wives assume they get your stuff if you die etc so by not knowing about each other it is a type of fraud.
The only stuff I will leave is worn out bike crap and a few hundred CDs by obscure punk-folk bands. Nobody wants my crap. They'd try and get the other wife to take it all to the tip then open a bottle of cheap Bucks Fizz to celebrate having more shoe space.
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welshfarmer - Member
Why a man would ever want to marry a woman is a mystery, as far as I am concerned.
Presumably you'd prefer to marry a sheep? 😀
How many women have gone down for bigamy
Zero? Not sure of the legal status, but when a woman has >1 husband it's called polyandry.
This is the day that M&S no longer selling Cauliflower Steaks made it to the headlines!Who knows, slow news day at the BBC, it's not like there's other important things going on.
The sentence is that big because it includes an element of fraud. When you sign the document saying you are making a true and honest statement (or similar) it has to come with serious consequences for breaching it. In this case he also seems to have forged some documents to enable it to happen. There can be various reasons for sentencing but clearly here the main one is to discourage others from following in his footsteps.
Presumably you'd prefer to marry a sheep?
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This is the day that M&S no longer selling Cauliflower Steaks made it to the headlines!The sentence is that big because it includes an element of fraud. When you sign the document saying you are making a true and honest statement (or similar) it has to come with serious consequences for breaching it. In this case he also seems to have forged some documents to enable it to happen. There can be various reasons for sentencing but clearly here the main one is to discourage others from following in his footsteps.
I understand that but the prisons are overflowing as it is and I think space would be better reserved for more violent prisoners etc. Surely the punishment can be something community based which would be a benefit to society instead costing £5k a month in prison. It isn't as if he is going to need rehabilitation - I mean who would make that mistake twice!!
Presumably he was sent to prison so he could find out what it's like to be someone's 'wife' 😯 😆
FB-ATB - Member
Don't forget, 2 wives, 2 mothers in law.
Go for sisters to eliminate this issue.
The thought of having to think of 2 Birthday and 2 Christmas presents makes this a no no!! Jail is a crazy waste of already stretched resources, he should be left to live with the 2 lots of grief he will no doubt get!!
How many women have gone down for bigamy
Zero? Not sure of the legal status, but when a woman has >1 husband it's called polyandry.
In England at least, S.57 of the Offences Against The Person Act 1863 applies the offence of bigamy to men and women without distinction. i.e. both polygyny and polyandry are bigamy in English law.
I don't doubt there will be differences in sentencing - there are for most crimes, especially non-violent ones. This has a fair bit to do with care of children.
Bigamy?
No, she was quite slender, as was his other wife - Louise.
I understand that but the prisons are overflowing as it is and I think space would be better reserved for more violent prisoners etc. Surely the punishment can be something community based which would be a benefit to society instead costing £5k a month in prison. It isn't as if he is going to need rehabilitation - I mean who would make that mistake twice!!
Why discriminate between physical violence and other kinds of abuse - especially towards women. Aside from any abuses of the legal system he's conned, manipulated and coerced both wives. You're not thinking too hard about the consequences of doing that to two women (perhaps two families) if you're not seeing the seriousness of that.
Its not just a bit cheeky.
A swift conversion to Mormonism should have cleared the whole sorry mess up.
Just reread the actual story (sometimes it pays to actually read stuff - who knew!). He wasn't actually living as man and wife with both. He had seperated from the first a few years before but had told the 2nd he had got the paperwork through.
A bit (a lot) of a muppet and you have to wonder what was going on in his head but not quite the same as having a wife and two kids living 3 streets apart and hotfoooting between the two twice a night.
So basically he remarried without getting a divorce from his effectively (ex) wife?
Big deal.
Why anyone would want to marry is beyond me.
So basically he remarried without getting a divorce from his effectively (ex) wife?
Big deal.
I think.. the actual story here was that he was stoooopid enough to go on (a shit) telly (programme) whilst bigaming. That's what makes it a "deal". Big, small, whatever, but funny all the same. 😆
Also this
Why discriminate between physical violence and other kinds of abuse - especially towards women. Aside from any abuses of the legal system he's conned, manipulated and coerced both wives. You're not thinking too hard about the consequences of doing that to two women (perhaps two families) if you're not seeing the seriousness of that.
means the actual bigamy is not really a laughing matter. It's a seriously vile thing to do.
whilst bigaming
Likes PlayStation and Xbox?
Pervert.
You're not thinking too hard about the consequences of doing that to two women (perhaps two families) if you're not seeing the seriousness of that.
So every woman that cheats should go to prison, if getting aeay with cheating by lying counts as abuse?
welshfarmer - Member
Why a man would ever want to marry a woman is a mystery, as far as I am concerned.But why he should marry 2 women. That's a bigger mystery!
Bigamy laws also apply to same sex marriages so not get out of jail card for you there.
Gundry initially said he had only had a blessing in the Seychelles with Ms Brooker but the court heard he had married her by forging documents.The court was also told he deceived both women over money.
Hmmm, forgery and deception.
Likes PlayStation and Xbox?Pervert.
😆 I maded a word up
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You're not thinking too hard about the consequences of doing that to two women (perhaps two families) if you're not seeing the seriousness of that.
So every woman that cheats should go to prison, if getting aeay with cheating by lying counts as abuse?
Indeed - he's been convicted here of breaking the law regarding the legalities of marriage. I'm still not quite sure I understand what the first wife is so upset about given they'd been separated for years. The thing is, if like many people these days he hadn't married the first woman there wouldn't be any offence committed and I doubt anybody would be the least bit bothered about the emotional impact on a woman he hadn't lived with for several years.
It's made all the more confusing to me as a verbal contract to cohabit can leave you in a similar situation legally as being married - and can actually be used for the granting of a spousal visa.
Surely cheating is breakibg a verbal contract?
Forgery of course, should be illegal - it shouldn't be 6 months in the slammer in this case though.
Two wives?. Not content with having his every failing and deficiency repeatedly pointed out to him he went for a second opinion? Madness.
[quote=Tom_W1987 ]It's made all the more confusing to me as a verbal contract to cohabit can leave you in a similar situation legally as being married
Just to go a bit OT here - can it? My understanding is that the widely held idea of "common law marriage" doesn't have much legal significance (I have to admit a personal interest here - I'm one of those people who didn't ever formally get married and feeling quite relieved by that now).
whilst bigaming
As long as it's in his own home, with another big Amy.
Reminds me of the old joke...if I wanted to disappoint 2 people at the same time, I'd go out to dinner with my parents!
I'm not entirely sure Aracer, but cohabitation can certainly be used in a spousal visa application. It requires a lot more evidence but it is doable.