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I echo that if you want to move, make it for positive reasons that you want to move somewhere in particular, not negative reasons that you want to leave the UK. You won't find happiness just by moving.
And OP, if it's modern politics that annoys you, Aus is definitely not a good idea - they produced Rupert Murdoch, most of the press is owned by his empire, and the latest election increased the number of Senators that peddle the 'so called experts' routine. The Government is pretty right-wing, look at the immigration policy. I don't mean to sound down-beat - I really enjoy it here - but you said the politics is annoying you, you have to be realistic that this "post-truth" politics is pervasive.
Forgot to mention my house is in the Panonian climate so get mid 30s in summer and not so much snow in winter but a short drive will take you to snow if thats your thing.
MK. Ever lived there ?
One of my mates chooses to live there. Never miss an opportunity to take the piss 😉
I'm a country boy. So I'd rather hammer nails into my kneecaps than live in a town.
If I could speak the language or was in a job that was not language dependent I would move to the Netherlands or possibly France
either back to Switzerland again or to Ireland - near Cork on the south coast.
The Dutch all seem to speak good English, so I'm not sure that language should be a barrier.
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Totally - but could you just wait a year or two for me to get my shizzle together and get across the boarder before building the wall?
I do tend to find people who are interested in news and politics seem to have rather negative attitudes and constantly moan about everything.
I've not bought a newspaper in 10 years, and I don't watch the news or current affairs programmes. Not by choice as such, I've just got better things to do. Try it. You might like it. 🙂
If it's Lodge Lake you're near, get involved with the left leaning folk in Loughton village, led by Peter Todd. Start at the parish council. you'd be surprised at how many think like us...
We moved to ROI in 2012 and i must say it was not totally my choice,family needs in respect of sick inlaws needing support from wife n family.
But on the positive we were able to sell up in mid wales and clear our mortgage and buy an ok house that needed/needs work for cash and ok it took a while ,now have good work and live in an area with less traffic ,lovely people ,excellent mountain biking.And GUINNESS .
Negatives are,higher car tax,but almost non existent council tax (1/10 of previous in uk ).Higher schooling costs but as my youngest is 17 now nearing the end.
I don't regret it now ,especially seeing the mess the UK is in now.
Plus again that i now live in a far better area rural and owe no one any thing ,no credit cards,bank loans,mortgage etc.
Not by choice as such, I've just got better things to do. Try it. You might like it.
And partly this is why the UK is in the position it is, unless people are informed they are easily lead.
imnotverygood - as a nurse unfortunately it would be. fluent communication is essential
Christ, it's not [i]that[/i]bad here and now.
I'm guessing you were not of working age in 'the 73 / '74 three day week or even '79 and that barrel of laughs.
Stay or go - it doesn't matter. Your kids will probably be fine unless you f*** them up in another way.
Mrs asbrooks is just filling out a job application to teach in Kathmandu for two years.
I'd say wait for the (atomic) dust to settle with President Trump and see what the world is like then. Might not be many habitable places left 😉
Emigrate if you want a better lifestyle or have a great job opportunity. If you're P'd off by the political, economic and social situation in the UK then you're moving for the wrong reasons. Everywhere has their issues and the UK less than most.
Things are definitely not that bad here. Of course if you immerse yourself in the BS peddled in the media it is easy to get depressed, but the reality is that things in the UK as well as generally in the world are getting better. Fewer people out of poverty than ever before, people living longer all over the world, average wages increasing. Things have never been so good. But you never hear that on the media because they like to outdo each other with the shocking stories and it just doesn't represent reality.
But the UK is not unique in having sleazy career politicians in it for their own ends, an economy that is facing challenging times ahead (Brexit or no Brexit) and some unsavory people in our society.
I've got a few friends and family who have emigrated and it's not all great covering most of the usual places - the states, Canada, Aus, NZ and Europe. There are pro's and cons. Some regret it, some have never looked back. I don't envy any of them really.
I found emigrating to be the best decision i'd ever made.
Probably helps that i wasn't really english in the first place, and hadn't lived in any one place for more than 4 years (and that was when i did my O-levels/A-Levels, so a good while ago now!) the rest of the time it's been 12-18 months between moves, usually nearer 12 months, even when i've not needed to!
I've been where i am now for nearly 15 years, and have no intention of moving at any point in the near (or distant) future. (And my last move was less than 10km)
Not to mention that the far right here are about as right wing as the Lib Dems. Which does make me smile, not much though.
Based purely on a 3 day holiday, in the summer, Iceland.
Op,
Ozland or Canada will be better choice to blend in quickly because language will not be an issue.
You might be disappointed with KiwiLand ... the Islanders really don't like you and I can see ethnic troubles in future ...
[url= https://e2nz.org/migrant-stories/chapter-12/migrant-tales-reverse-racism-from-maori-and-pom-bashing/ ]Some tales from here.[/url] and [url= https://e2nz.org/2016/02/03/5-things-you-should-know-about-new-zealand/ ]Here - KiwiLand 1,2,3,4 & 5[/url]
The only place I've ever really felt I'd like to move to is France, I like the pace, geography and climate, but I don't speak French nearly well enough to work there.
'Emergency' get-out plan involves Rosetta Stone and a Ferry Ticket.
Is moving to Canada from the UK not quite difficult to get Visas etc. I would love to do it to be honest and nothing to do with Brexit I have just always fancied it
Ozland or Canada will be better choice to blend in quickly because language will not be an issue.
It won't be an issue if you pass the language exam. 🙂
EDIT: And based on the level of written English I see on here, few would get a visa.
Viva Brexit!
Majorca. It's civilised ,got biking,snorkelling ,good food and cheap supermarkets.
Most importantly the wildlife won't try to kill you.
I wish all remoaners would think of leaving like you, this country will be so much better without you so the sooner you eff off the better really. Though judging by the drivel you write on here the safest place for you and your family would be the Moon as no place on planet earth fits your criteria
captainsasquatch - Member
It won't be an issue if you pass the language exam.
EDIT: And based on the level of written English I see on here, few would get a visa. Viva Brexit!
Do they speak English over there, I mean don't they all speak English related language over there?
Shots fired!
If all remoaners left the country would be run by the EDL / National Front 😉
Do they speak English over there, I mean don't they all speak English related language over there?
Surely you, as someone who does their research, know that you can't just walk into Ozland or Canada. Surely you know that British nationals have to sit an English exam. Surely you know that dependant on the job that you're pursuing that you need to get specific levels and that there is a real possibility of failing.
The ultimate irony being that we can walk into, and start working in, any EU country without knowing a word of Dutch, French, German, Spanish or Italian, etc. 😆
kimbers - Member
The UK is becoming a place I'm not sure I like anymore...
It will all improve when England gets its independence - sign the petition to boot the Scots out. 🙂
And your mental state will improve if you stop reading the newspapers owned by foreign billionaires who are driving the hate agenda to suit their business interests, ie if you don't want to be sprayed with shit, don't hang around arseholes.
Edit: To clarify - England is a great place full of decent people. Its problem is its hate media. Avoid that and life will improve.
It will all improve when England gets its independence - sign the petition to boot the Scots out.
When are you going to kick us Welshies out?
captainsasquatch - Member
When are you going to kick us Welshies out?
You Welshies should team up with the Irishies and us Scottishies and allow England to leave the UK and the EU.
That way they get to take control of their country and will have friendly neighbours who make sure they don't suffer too much from their exit.
Just think of the opportunities to revive ancient traditions, like smuggling. 🙂
Just think of the opportunities to revive ancient traditions, like smuggling.
Shhh... The Cornish will be off next.
Unless your land is separated by the sea you are part of the province. 😈captainsasquatch - Member
When are you going to kick us Welshies out?
You Welshies should team up with the Irishies and us Scottishies and allow England to leave the UK and the EU.
Sounds like a plan. I'd be happy to do smuggling trade deals with the Scots and Irish as long as they give us preferential tarriffs. If that works out, then sure we'll invite the Cornish, then perhaps the Bretons and Galicians to increase the trading area. Who knows where it could end.
Somewhere where morons don't set off explosives for half the year would do me.
The Pilot - MemberSomewhere where morons don't set off explosives for half the year would do me.
That will be Greenland.
Do they speak English over there, I mean don't they all speak English related language over there?
No smartarse reply or recognition that you've just learnt something. How much ignorance is hidden in all your other pro brexit rantings?
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My Canadian colleague speaks French and French English so not exactly English. The Oz bloke I met working in the mine spoke very weird "English" that I could hardly understand, but when I told him to speak proper English he was not very happy put it this way. Proper "crocodile Dundee" type of guy.captainsasquatch - Member
No smartarse reply or recognition that you've just learnt something. How much ignorance is hidden in all your other pro brexit rantings?
Lovely
My Canadian colleague speaks French and French English so not exactly English. The Oz bloke I met working in the mine spoke very weird "English" that I could hardly understand, but when I told him to speak proper English he was not very happy put it this way. Proper "crocodile Dundee" type of guy.
Both very nice stories, but nothing to do with your suggestion that the op looks at Ozland (sic) or Canada because they speak English and it'll be easier to blend in, is it? 😆
Given how SAD has dominated my life for the last 20-odd years during the winter, for a few moments I briefly think about moving close to the equator, which is supposed to cure it.
But where would i go? Canary Islands? Miles away from family, a loner that can barely speak any Spanish with very little savings. Doesn't seem very tempting by logic! 😆
Most of the horrible stuff in broken Britain only really exists in the media (including social media).
Switch it off and the reality is that the UK is a great place to live.
I see people I was in school with who have moved to Oz, the US, Asia - their postings on FB will often highlight the bad stuff going on politically in their chosen new country. It's much and such everywhere you look.
Apart from the one who moved to Nelson NZ. That looks like a great place to live from any angle. The smug bitch. 😉
Sweden. Easy.
I occasionaly think of moving, not because of brexit or the economy I doubt anywhere will have a substantially better politics or gdp.
I would like to move for a bit more space, the SE of England is full, the North is cold and wet and Scotland is colder and wetter. I dont want to move to the other side if the world. Spain is too hot and Scandanavia is dark half the year.
France is top of my list, good values, secular, beaches and mountains.
Scandanavia is dark half the year.
Actually, same amount of sunshine as everywhere else. In the middle of winter it's no worse because it's dark when you go to work, light at lunchtime, and dark when you get home.
Still enough daylight for a daytime ride in Winter if you plan, but if you want to night ride in the week it's moonlight on snow, which is fabulous and not really dark at all. Also not muddy. In mid summer you can go for a ride without lights at 10pm; but you can ride without lights at 8pm for what seems like half the year. It also gets dark slower so it feels like it's dusk or better most of the time.
And if you don't want to ride in the ice and snow you can ski.