[Closed] idiet = science?

idiet = intelligent design?
iDave = great architect?

M&S Simply fuller longer.

its not the first place ive seen this approach recently

ive always wondered if brown rice and wholegrain pasta are really suitable...

*See Gary Taubes in link....know exactly what to expect*

Porridge, in or out?

Porridge, in or out?

Out of iDave as far as I know

Out of iDave as far as I know

Go for a run pre-porridge DS.

meh, i like porridge
recently ive upped the ante with sunflower seeds and golden syrup.

I am starting being fitterer today, after finishing off all the Xmas food and drink left in the house last night.

I was leathered and never want to see another Stollen again.

Can't exercise yet as still shifting a chest infection though....7 days with no exercise. That is the longest since June last year....bah.

Maybe I am an ideal candidate, apart from the porridge this morning, for iDieting.

Go for a run

I hate running.

You're more built for basketball, DS.

where is this Idave diet
I like meat and need to lose lots of lard

soon as you start shipping free lights, someone will link you a free diet sheet.

@Trout

[url= https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6580668_7607415_613824 ]Linky[/url].

You're more built for basketball, DS.

I did it for a short while, then stopped as I couldn't do breakfasts. But since discovering that 6 eggs scrambled with only 2 yolks is pretty tasty and not as heavy I might go back and try again.

Lunch was a PITA as I could never find anything I liked with enough calories appart from re-heated leftovers.

trout

idiet stuff around insulin levels, also issues with fruit and grain consumption.

As a vego I don't subscribe to the idea that eating meat is the only way to approach this. Interestingly enough, the article does also mention that vegetarians are healthier.

Serious question.
Is there really enough sugar in fruit for it to have a negative effect on the iDiet? Or put another way a significant enough effect on the iDiet for it to be rejected from the diet?

Ask molgrips.

I tried the egg white thing without so many yolks, but it seemed to give me problems with constipation so I am back on the whole eggs which work fine.

Fructose causes a big insulin hit, that's why it is out along with milk

To the OP: It's not that similar though, is it? I think Taubes goes too far with his carbs make you fat hypothesis, but one of my main criticisms of iDave's diet has always been the overemphasis on [b]lean[/b] meat.

Is it 2009 all over again?

(Back on it too - 9 months to shift 2-2.5st before the next cross season)

Ask molgrips.

You just dealing with the monetary side of things then?

Ask molgrips.

but one of my main criticisms of iDave's diet has always been the overemphasis on lean meat.

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Yea.. overemphaisis on leanmeat 😯

I just bought the "Four Hour Body - Timothy Ferriss" book, made a lot more sense of the "idave" then.

I couldnt get enough info around idave to join the dots so to speak, but reading 4HB, means idave now makes a lot more sense and is easier to follow.

I`m down 4.75 lbs in the first 7 days with basically no exercise but the weight loss is only part of the story, belly and moobs are half the size in a week 😀

Is there really enough sugar in fruit for it to have a negative effect on the iDiet?

As above, it's because it's fructose.

I have no issues with eggs and bacon/sausage for breakfast. Once you get used to whipping it up quickly it's no bother at all.

Oh, I am including small amounts of cheese in my diet, I think it's ok.

Trout posted

where is this Idave diet
I like meat and need to lose lots of lard

soon as you start shipping free lights, someone will link you a free diet sheet.

Where in my post did I ask for a freebie

Thanks Jamie

Likewise, eggs / bacon / tomato for breakfast is great and takes minutes

Cottage cheese is ok as it doesnt affect the insulin response
Normal cheese is out as I understand it.

Oh, I am including small amounts of cheese in my diet, I think it's ok.

I've gone crazy with cheese... Actually i'm not even on the diet anymore but I have taken a lot of the principles from it (mainly breakfast)

My weight has stayed the same for months now and bodyfat looks okay.

Troutie (got your email ta, will be on its way shortly)

Try this for starters:

www.fourhourbody.com/

Fruit today isn't as it once was.
Its been [i]enhanced[/i] by man/farmers to be sweeter than it was historically.

So, with the increased sugar content, the greater insulin response today's fruit will elicit.

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Its been enhanced by man/farmers to be sweeter than it was historically.

😐

Jamie.

Folk just seem to reject the omittion of fruit, I thought I'd just expand a little on the subject.

Clearly, as per the add in the top right hand corner of the lid, increased sweetness is a selling point ?.

🙂

My wife seems to think I will die from not eating fruit and that there is something inherently necessary in it that is missing from vegetables.

Cutting out fruit and sugar is the best thing I ever did. A week of indulgence at Christmas re-confirmed this and helped me gain 4kg as well.

I'm back on the straight and narrow now 🙂

so no free lights then?

oh and to the poster above who has lost nearly 5lbs of belly and moobs in a week...... Make sure you are drinking enough water.

[i]My wife seems to think I will die from not eating fruit and that there is something inherently necessary in it that is missing from vegetables.[/i]

No worries. Don't forget iDieters.
On your day off, [b]anything[/b] goes.
So attack the fruit bowl if you wish.
😉

I eat porridge and run ( did an 8 miles in 55 mins yesterday, this post is an excuse to be smug)

I eat pretty much what I want, which is mostly veg anyway, but I 'did' a pinapple yesterday in pretty much one sitting, it's amazing that I didn't pass out through sugar overload LOL

Smug and skinny is the way forward

For me, the plan is to move to a more balanced diet, which means: a little more fish (two meals a week, rather than one), meat two meals a week and the rest vegetables.

Fruit can drop out for a while, but I'll reintroduce it once the weight loss is (back) under way.

[i]did an 8 miles in 55 mins yesterday[/i]

Any idea of your heart rate during your run ?.
I'm interested to see peoples HR when they do all this runnig malarkey.

Banging away like a sex pest I'd imagine!

No idea though I don't wear a HRM, is it important?

I don't wear a HRM, is it important?

No, it's only important if you sell HRMs.

im impressed emsz,
im ok for 7min/mile but going below that i still cant sustain, but i hate sprint sessions/hill reps, so thems the breaks eh.

i was given an HRM, its quite happy sat in the cabinet in the bathroom while i exercise
but i can be arsed to take a resting pulse now and again.