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Molly - you're awful at following the rules
The rules didn't quite work for me the way I wanted, so I have adjusted them. I like to experiment and learn rather than blindly follow 🙂
iKonw, iKnow, you just want to be part of the iClub, without actually attending the iVents.
so how much weight have you lost now Molly after being on your version of the diet for probably about a year ?
Kev
so how much weight have you lost now Molly after being on your version of the diet for probably about a year ?
That's the million dollar question...
yeti, if you look like Rassmussen (sp?), you need to steer well clear of the idiet. 😀
Keva, stuck at between 84 and 86kg. However.. my ultimate aim is not to lose weight, but be fast on the bike. I'm still working on the balance.
ton - thankfully I don't! Closer to the boxer one (in my mind anyway)
Molly - I reckon you've got 10kg to go. You're a pretty similar build to me?
Similar I suppose.. although I can't see how it'd be possible for me to lose 10kg.
There's this diet I've heard about that when followed to the letter is supposed to achieve good results!
What's your waist measurement? I never thought I'd get below 33", then I thought I'd never get below 32"... now I'm just over 30".
I've dropped a stone in the last year and didn't think it was possible.
Here's an iDea. Why don't you post a picture of yourself up so we can see whether we think it's possible?
How will you know from the picture?
I've dropped a stone in the last year and didn't think it was possible
Yes by devoting far more time to it than I have available. Bear in mind I am also a stone lighter than I was a year ago.
Can see where it looks like you're carrying excess muscle / fat?
Lifting weights has given me reasonbly 'good' arms. Sod all use for riding a bike though.
I'll do this appraisal for free this time.
Yes by devoting far more time to it than I have available.
iKnow a man that for a fee will provide you with more success than my regime does but at less than 8 hours a week?
Can see where it looks like you're carrying excess muscle / fat?
What difference does that make? Surely you are aware that you can't lose fat from a particular area by exercising it...?
As for 8 hours a week - I wish. Currently scavenging around three, but haven't for a few weeks hence being at the upper end of the range.
Friend me on Endomondo if you want to see what I'm up to.
at least you've lost a stone then Molly..
I guess I could post a picture of me so you can see what I look like from cycling two miles back and forth to work and doing half hour of yoga three times a week, for four months... but I won't.
Kev
Surely you are aware that you can't lose fat from a particular area by exercising it...?
That's where following this iDiet thing would help 😉
We all have different aims and regimes Kev and bodies. If I did what you've been doing I wouldn't be gaining much speed on the bike, endurance on foot or swimming technique or stamina 🙂
That's where following this iDiet thing would help
You seem to forget I've been doing it for a year. You don't read my posts very well do you?
I don't think you read the iDiet sheet very well 😉 Do you reckon you're at 10-12% yet?
Plus I reckon you might find that yoga has greater benefits than you'd first imagine.
Keva - have you ever done Hot Yoga?
Not sure you understand the issues involved here Yeti. The diet sheet didn't say 'you are guaranteed to get to 12% bf and the diet is guaranteed to fuel all your training whatever it might be, whatever your physiology' when I read it.
Yoga - yes, it looks great, no problems with that. It's just not on my list right now.
My personal opinion Mol is that you seem to overcomplicate things. The people that it has worked best for... Just Do It!
They don't question, don't adapt, don't decide they're different, they just get on with it.
From reading their posts they're quicker to ditch the chocolate, the fizzy drinks, the rubbish.
Some are fitter than either you or I. Some of them are exercising more than we do. Some of them are better racers than either of us.
I agree with TSY here. Have you ever just given it a try for a couple of weeks, as is, just to see what occurs? If I remember right, you have never followed it properly.
As for finding the time....the losing weight bit is all about the diet, which takes no time at all.
Gah.
Molly, yep I know 😉 I've actually been losing fitness all round for the last four months because of my injury. It's not been a happy time for me the last few months but at least now I can start to get out again. Physio said a third of percived effort for one month, then two thirds for the second month then work back to full fitness in the third month. So at least, if I can behave myself and keep it low for while I should be back up to where I was by the summertime, which I have to do, I cannot afford to over cook anything.
Yeti, I think that's Bikram yoga? nope, not tried it. I'm starting Satria again tonight for the first time since August! All I've been able to do recently is stuff at home which I've remembered.
Kev
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My personal opinion Mol is that you seem to overcomplicate things. The people that it has worked best for... Just Do It
Yeti, you seem to forget that I started just doing it and it didn't work very well. So I started modifying it and got better results.
Sometimes things ARE complicated. Like human physiology for instance. Yes, some people have followed to the letter and had no ill effects, but we aren't all the same, are we?
Why on earth would you assume that one size would fit all? I still stick to the principles, I just have a little more simple carbs, that's all.
I agree with TSY here. Have you ever just given it a try for a couple of weeks, as is, just to see what occurs? If I remember right, you have never followed it properly.
See above. Followed it to the letter for two weeks, and ended up barely being able to turn the pedals on my bike, and that's not an exaggeration.
As for finding the time....the losing weight bit is all about the diet, which takes no time at all
Yes, and that's why I am frickin doing it! When I talked about having time I was talking about the training. I'm not just trying to get skinny, I'm trying to get fast on the bike. So there's a balancing act.
But haven't you reduced the amount of exercise you're doing since then?
Don't EVER change, Molgrips.
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Don't EVER change, Molgrips
Does that include losing weight?
Does that include losing weight?
ZING!
But haven't you reduced the amount of exercise you're doing since then?
Since when?
since you gave up being my inspiration, we started at the same weight, were down to the same weight at the same time... and now i hear you're giving up at 84ish KG.... i'm down to 79-80KG and gunna work hard until that i'm sexier than deadlydarcy.
bad molly!
I've been on the diet for a week now and im quite impressed with it.
Im in my forties weighing in at 13st 10lbs.Im carrying about 10lb to much.....at least,fair to middling fitness wise but working on it.
Monday to Friday I stuck strictly to the diet.
Exercise wise i commute to and from work on my bike a total of about 18miles per day.
Tuesday i went to the gym at night as well, jogged and rowed for about 45mins.
Thursday had a day off from any exercise.
Friday had a commute of 38 miles combined.When i got home from the 30 mile ride at night felt very unwell and had to got to bed.Overstretched myself a little bit. 😳
Saturday was my day off,going out at night for food and beer so had a weigh in to see how i was doing........10st 1lb,had to weigh myself three times as i thought the scales were broke,well chuffed.
Sunday was a "race for life"(3 mile run/walk) with my kids so another day off the exercise really.Also fell off the wagon diet wise a little and had a few beers in the sun.
Monday morning weigh in and im back up to 13st 6lb,im happy with that.
Phil - good going, but like I say I'm aiming for overall speed not light weight in itself. We'll see how I get on later, but each kg below about 85 for me is very difficult to shift.
i'm aiming for overall ability to take my top off in the summer and not feel like a chubbyfunster and have the local kids point, laugh and make up songs about my fat rolls.
Since when?
Since you first tried to do the iDiet properly when you were living in Germany and cycling to work everyday?
Earlier in this thread you said you were struggling to get 3 hours in.
I reckon you should revisit the diet, at your current level of exercise and stick at it for a month.
Surely your body can't get used to a new diet in any shorter time than a month?
I'm aiming for overall speed not light weight in itself
The two are intertwined until you get to a 'light' weight IMO.
Power to weight ratio is a critical factor, do you agree? And once it starts getting hard to lose weight, it would make more sense to concentrate on building power, wouldn't it? Since the net result would be similar.
Of course there are other things that make you a fast racer - pain tolerance, aggression, consistency, endurance and all that. They can all be trained at the same time as increasing power but NOT, in my experience so far - at the same time as dieting heavily.
The crux of the matter is that the slow carb foods are not very carb dense, and I can only eat so many of them. Therefore the slow carb diet limits the number of carbs I can have, which is why I appear to need to supplement.
I reckon you should revisit the diet, at your current level of exercise and stick at it for a month
The thing is, if I do not have enough carbs I can only go at 90% instead of 100% during intense intervals etc. And that last 10% is what makes all the difference in terms of performance, it seems. There's not much point in doing flat out intervals when you can't go flat out.
Anyway - I AM STILL ON THE DIET. I have been for ages. All I am doing is increasing the amount of carbs around exercise to the point where I feel I can go 100%.
how about exercise less so you need less food, see if you lose some weight. Then build back fitness afterwards. bit late for this season though, should've done it in winter!
Kev
Power to weight ratio is a critical factor, do you agree?
100% agree.
My view is that you need to strip away the excess weight, no matter how hard that may be.
You've never given your body a chance to adapt and take it's energy from different sources... you wouldn't give a new training plan (provided by an expert) 2 weeks and sack it off, or change it, because you hadn't improved, would you?
I HAVE NOT SACKED IT OFF!
Jesus.
As for MTFU - you what? I say again - no matter how much I mtfu if I am not adequately fuelled I can't ride as hard. If I were training for ultra endurance then things might be different.
For the 50th time I have been working on it for a year, learning about what works and what doesn't for me. You've never experienced my body (yes I know) and you've only been dieting for a few weeks yourself, so don't tell me what'll be best for me.
Molly - wrong, I've been on a diet for years. It just doesn't ever include cans of Coke or Haribo. I've always made healthy choices and the exercise I do is either offset against chocolate and alcohol or results in weight loss.
You have not been on the slow carb diet for years though have you?
And what is wrong with coke as exercise fuel?
I've eaten low GI pretty much my whole life... certainly my adult life.
I guess it depends how much exercise you're doing? For the odd hour here and there drinking coke and all these 'sports' drinks if you have weight loss as a goal, even if it is a secondary one, is silly IMO.
As you say though... you know you're body and just because I ditched drinking sugary drinks to fuel my exercise and have seen benefits doesn't mean you will.
And what is wrong with coke as exercise fuel?
The bubbles will give you indigestion.
...not that you should need coke, or anything, for an hour run.
Maybe he means Columbian marching powder?
Mols - at your weight, running at 12 minute/mile for an hour will burn about 600 cals (according to some random website). You're having 2x coke + chocolate which could easily be more than what you burn.
I've eaten low GI pretty much my whole life... certainly my adult life.
That's not what you've been posting on here. You go on about bread and pasta and all sorts, iirc.
And I'm not drinking sports drinks, I just have a coke after and sometimes before a workout. Which is pretty much what it says in the plan, doesn't it?
Are you suggesting I should ignore how my body feels and just plough on doing poor workouts and feeling like sh*t, recovering poorly, mentally fatigued and unable to concentrate on my job? Cos that's what happens if I don't get enough carbs.
If that's the price of weight loss then I'll stay 85kg thanks, and enjoy getting faster and feeling strong and happy on the bike at the same time.
Mols - at your weight, running a 12 minute mile for an hour will burn about 600 cals (according to some random website). You're having 2x coke + chocolate which could easily be more than what you burn
Doesn't work like that.