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Well... that’s a proper dapping in anyone’s book.
Laura k reckons the abstentions could swing it
Whoops. Bit of a miss there (admittedly I didnt have a clue but surely she should have?)
Speaking of the Lord’s, here’s Betty
I enjoyed that and agree with every word she said.
Lost to a majority of 230!!! Bloody ell
mess central. goodness knows what happens now
What a spanking!
Looks like scotroutes/sky were closest!
Never been so happy to lose a bet!
Interesting that there doesn’t appear to have been many abstentions?
Jesus. New PM by the first of Feb then, or General Election.
What happens now to Brexit - surely confidence says now one cares what she comes back with?
and 1st prize goes to
Murray
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The dog will eat Mr Tusk’s letter. 200+ for a serious answer.
I'll admit I thought I was being harsh with
mikewsmith
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170,pull.the vote and no confidence by a narrow majority.Leftfield part…. Vince cable and kier stammer running the show by Monday
Let's see what happens tomorrow
Is she going to pull a rabbit out the hat?
As I posted in the other thread DUP on her side
She’s going balls out now? She’s actually offering out anyone who fancies it.
Brexit now feels dead somehow, we can’t have a deal the Brexiteers can live with, only the really hard of thinking want no deal. It feels like a game of musical chairs, but the last one sitting has to revoke A50 immediately setting fire to their career as everyone else’s scapegoat.
Chaos.
Isn't it about time that a TV crew caught up with that prick Cameron to get his take on the mess that he has left us in?
Currently driving my superior half and stepdaughter daft by bursting into the Haircut 100 song when anyone asks:
Where do we go from here?
See the EU thread really
Brexit now feels dead somehow, we can’t have a deal the Brexiteers can live with, only the really hard of thinking want no deal. It feels like a game of musical chairs, but the last one sitting has to revoke A50 immediately setting fire to their career as everyone else’s scapegoat.
*Raises hand*
I’ll take one for the team...
She'll be lucky to find any EU leader in the next week who isn't still pissed on Nyetimber Grand Cru and has stopped laughing so they can speak to her with a straight face.
It's all been like a game of Jenga for the last couple of years. Everybody knew it was going to collapse, everybody was taking turns to remove a plank to make it wobble but nobody, absolutely nobody, wanted to be the person to remove the final piece and be branded the LOOOOOOOOOOSEEEER.
Isn’t it about time that a TV crew caught up with that prick Cameron to get his take on the mess that he has left us in?
Indeed, he’s probably propping up a Pig Roast somewhere..
Its groundhog day
We are a month closer to Brexit & May has come back with a completely reworked & 100% different deal to put to parliament....
some MPs are not optimistic
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1105117430823768064
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I reckon she will lose by a mere 96 votes this time
Please please let her delay the vote again, just for the lols...:)
So I'll pitch in with an opening bid of 163 against, after all she has promised that if people don't vote for her deal there might not be a brexit.
....or there might be a hard Brexit, which she tried last week at that wind turbine factory. That went so well for her.
Thats what I’m thinking as well. Both parties have ‘leaders’ who the majority of their MPs dislike imensely, think are hopeless, and fundamentally disagree with on the most important matters of policy.
These disaffected MPs had the option to do something about the situation, by joining together and putting forward a new plan, but they preferred to focus on themselves. It's not a problem with the 2 party system as such, more a problem with our shitty democracy. String 'em up, I say.
Already botttling it. It's pulling teeth. It's amazing they ever get anything done.
200 votes for me. All the conservatives are lining up to see who's going to be leader, voting TM down hard will accelerate that bun fight.
It's still on as of 1707CET, so I am going to say lose by 153 votes
I'll go 205.
This is going to be a proper thrashing. It would be funny if the consequences weren’t so dire.
I'll got 180, just for the 'Bullseye' joy of it.
Can it still be delayed?
Lose by single figures due to abstainers and the lightbulb moment that the deal she was managed to pry out of the EU is the best there is ever going to be and a shitty deal is better than no deal. Like a station toilet when you are out of options. . .
Can it still be delayed?
Anything is possible, after-all, it's a no-gamble game for May personally, all things being equal she's gone by the next election, a short-lived PM who's only going to be remember for this bit of a mess. Her only chance of a legacy (aka a seat in the Lords) or even a u-turn on her leaving is to 'Deliver' Brexit, she knows a no-deal will NEVER pass, so she's fighting for her (political) life to get her deal.
"bit of a mess" ha ha, that's not what I typed.
I'm conflicted. I am an ardent remainer, but this deal is better than a crash out deal which is widely regarded as a catastrophe & I am not sure I can see brexit being cancelled and us staying on as we were before the referendum.
It's a shit situation but I think I have resigned myself to this deal being the least damaging to my future.
Even at that it is akin to offering to chop my left hand off 'cos it's not as good as my right hand when originally I voted & wanted to keep both my hands 'cos they are quite useful thankyouverymuch!
“bit of a mess” ha ha, that’s not what I typed.
Was it "omni-shambles" or the other one?
She's heading back to Brussels tonight apparently.
Got to admire her lunacy...
Got to admire her
Frequent flyer balance, going to come in handy when this job ends.
One of the ERG fruit loops was on Radio 4 predicting an even bigger defeat than last time
Our countries politics is so totally unhinged at the moment, that wouldn’t actually surprise me in the least. Nothing does any more
Beginning to worry that she'll come back with something the party will kid themselves that it meets requirements, then it'll be game over...
I’m conflicted. I am an ardent remainer, but this deal is better than a crash out deal which is widely regarded as a catastrophe & I am not sure I can see brexit being cancelled and us staying on as we were before the referendum.
I’ve been through the emotions myself, but the remainers or ‘Brexit Saboteurs’ / Traitors and they’re sometimes called in the gutter press have a clear plan and goal in mind, unlike the more fractured Leavers from both sides.
May’s deal goes down in flames tomorrow, The vote to block ‘No deal’ passes with a huge majority tomorrow and Brexit is up a creak without a paddle, both exits are closed and the only way is back. They need an extension from the rest of the EU, which they will only give if there’s a meaningful reason, okay it’s a bit of a leap, but not much to think it’s going to be Ref2.
Ref2 will be Mays Deal v Remain, or for remainers, good v least worse, it’s by no means a given remain will win this time, but at least it’ll be based on the truth, not open ended promises. It’s just the millions that very rich people and other nations who would benefit from a weaker Europe and weaker UK that we have to worry about.
they will only give if there’s a meaningful reason, okay it’s a bit of a leap, but not much to think it’s going to be Ref2.
I’d vote for schengen and the euro at the moment, just to see the ERG and the daily mail explode in a fit of rage.
I reckon she’s borrowed that digeridoo from that Aussie/ NZ (apologies to either nation if he wasn’t yours)guy at the commonwealth gig across the road and is just going to blow that
I’d vote for schengen and the euro at the moment, just to see the ERG and the daily mail explode in a fit of rage.
This.
Same! 😀