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Because that's how much the pathetic excuses for "students" are costing the taxpayer at the moment. The effing things have been overhead all day. ALL DAY! That's a huge waste of money to police the idiotic morons who have turned a legitimate protest in to a potentially violent protest worthy of the police spending so much to police it.
the urban myth in my head has it at three grand an hour
my guess is it costs less than bankers tax evasion
along the same lines a the plane/conveyor belt a helicopter can hover over a fairground waltzer almost effortlessly and at very little cost to the taxpayer - especially if its 'danger night' and all the fairground rides are free
been on photoshoots over central london in a helicopter and IIRC it was about £2k an hour (you need a twin engine to fly over london)
Not very useful but - apparently less than hiring a power boat for the same journey. So I had the misfortune to discover recently.
what so my urban myth lobe is wrong?
But they're going to be saving the taxpayer loads now (almost) all state funding for higher education is being cut and the future "pathetic excuses for students" will be paying it themselves.
Devon and Cornwall Police:
The all inclusive cost is £1675 per hour, this includes everything including fuel, staff and insurance. The unit has an annual budget of 1,000 hours per year, an average of 2.75 flying hours per day.
the urban myth in my head has it at three grand an hour
nonk, you are probably not far off the truth. When i worked offshore, each crew change chopper cost circa seven grand to put in the air.
lifed parts and all that?
One has a heli-pad for it to land on.
You have the police copter and sky copter and the
bbc copter, along with anyone else who can fly a fan.
Sure it wasnt a pretend one held up by wires.
It could also be that windsor lad coming home to see daddy at buck house, he flys one.
A Chinook costs £5k an hour plus £165k a month whether it flys or not.
A Chinook costs £5k an hour plus £165k a month whether it flys or not.
Poor troll flushfart. Very poor. I expected better from your privately educated self. Money can't buy everything eh?
Blimey it's gone up.. Budum tish..
Not only a poor troll, but a lazy troll too.
Police -v- students? I'm supporting the students.
Student protest is what they are meant to be doing - get on with it. 'Twas the poll tax in my day.
3k an hour an hour for the mountain rescue Sea king,according to MR mates.Not that anybody needs rescuing by heli(according to the cuts being made to RAF search and rescue by Tories)
daddy at buck house,
Daddy lives in Gloucestershire though so his sat nav is crap if he's at Buckhouse ,unless he has gone to see nanny
don't worry flash, in 10 years time there won't be enough graduates that could afford to get through university and into pilot officer training in the raf and navy - ergo no helicopter pilots in the police wasting fuel.
i can suddenly see some sense in the govts' cuts after all.
So why is the helicopter needed for this? Apart from its needed to be in the air to justify its expense.
What serious crimes are being prevented or detected by the copter?
...in 10 years time there won't be enough graduates that could afford to get through university and into pilot officer training in the raf and navy - ergo no helicopter pilots...
Army Air Corps - you don't need a degree!
MrSmith - Member
been on photoshoots over central london in a helicopter and IIRC it was about £2k an hour [b][u](you need a twin engine to fly over london)[/u][/b]
PAGING ELFIN PAGING ELFIN to the forum please 😀
Here I am!
I like these sort of threads. They serve to expose the bigoted narrow-mindedness inherent in some Little Englanders, as well as their selfish hypocrisy.
I fully support anyone who chooses to exercise their democratic right to protest. Fortunately, it looks like these demonstrations will continue, which will really make Flashy's ring itch. This can only be a Good Thing.
Flashy's just jealous, 'cos they've got the balls to actually publicly stand up for what they believe in, rather than cower behind a stupid persona behind a keyboard. He can only dream of having such stones...
Oh, and as for the cost; the Countryside Alliance demonstration, that Flashy claims he was on, cost many, many times more than the recent student protests, to police. Personally, I think they should've just turned the water cannons on the filthy bumpkins and blasted them back into the sticks, but there you go. 😉
They serve to expose the bigoted narrow-mindedness inherent in some Little Englanders, as well as their elfish hypocrisy.
Elfish hypocrisy ?............you think small english geezers should stick together then ?
btw, did you know that "popcorn" is rhyming slang for "Little Englanders" ?
As in : popcorn and maltesers = small geezers
Although it can get a tad confusing, as it can also be used when you go to the pictures, as in when you go up to the kiosk and say, "I'll have one of them large packets of small geezers please love"
You are [i]such[/i] an idiot.
And so ugly, that your face is twinned with the Soviet mining town of Magnitogorsk. 🙁
Go away and wash yourself and have some Cucumber.
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they've got the balls to actually publicly stand up for what they believe in
Do you really believe this? I have to say I have not yet heard a protester, or many other folk for that matter, who have been able to articulate their argument against the proposed scheme in a manner that indicates to me that they actually understand it or have done enough research to comprehend the merits or otherwise when compared to the current state of affairs. To protest from a position of knowledge is OK by me, but to do so from a position of ignorance makes you a bit of a dick.
lol lol and thrice lol at elfin.
I know what I'm talking about with these here evil Tory plans. But it's too cold to protest and since I'm at a posh uni (that I couldn't afford to go to should these plans go ahead despite working my backside off to get the grades to get in) I'm just going to write a letter.
Failing that I'll start cobbing fire extinguishers at bucktoothed people wearing barbour jackets and driving range rovers but for now a stern letter should show 'em.
Explain to me how you would not be able to afford to go given there is no up front cost?
its a point well made convert.
but no lets have a riot. 🙄
Ah no up front cost, that's okay then.
Do you really find it so difficult to imagine that people don't want to get into massive debt before they start working?
no.
but there is no money.
I couldn't afford to be saddled with the debt afterwards and the parents couldn't bail me out because funnily enough they don't have £40000 either. It'd be too crippling. The minimum amount to start paying it back is not a lot of money and having money like that taken out of the low wages I'd start up on would just be too much. It'd make more sense to go straight into work and be unskilled. Either that or go to a university that's not as good and charges less, despite having the grades to do more, and not reach the potential I should be able to and be less employable. Opportunities are blocked by increasing costs. The grades needed to get in should go up if they want to lower numbers then it would be a fairer system for the brightest people, not the richest.
Of course, being unskilled is great for the nation...
And these plans won't save the country any money for decades so why are they so keen to rush it through?
It'd make more sense to go straight into work and be unskilled
this is not always the outcome yknow.
It is also how they keep vines and kiwi fruit from being damaged by frost in parts of New Zealand believe it or not.
Not at all. But then we are in a discussion about value for money which is very different to "can't afford to go". Again, unless you take the time to read through the proposal and do the maths to work out what this "massive debt" would mean to the life long earnings of someone on a modest post degree income, you don't necessarily realise how different this "debt" is to other debt we pick up (car loans, mortgage etc) where you are expected to pay it all back irrespective of income.
In a perfect utopian world I'd love to see a return of the 70's where most students not only got free education but also a grant towards living expenses, but then again 3 in 4 of our current students would never have made it there in the first place such was the difference in higher education numbers. Personally I'd can the nukes and use the money to put the current unwashed through university for free but as the majority of current students voted toryboy this time around they'll have to lay in their own mess!
Aye, but it's also not what I'd want to do with my life. I want to be a geologist. You need a degree for that.
I was also having a look at the money of it all today. My uni generates £300m for the local community. For every £1 put in by the government, it generates another £7.50.
Less students going=less money back. It'd be stupid to introduce these higher fees and lose that sort of income for the economy.
oh sorry lifer..well being honest i dont know.
I think the subject of attack here should be Flashy's undemocratic attitude; we've done the Student fees thing several times already.
No, what I find sad is that someone could moan about the cost of policing a democratic protest. Simply because it doesn't fit into their own particular philosophical bubble. The other week, he was moaning about his journey home being delayed slightly. So was Woppit, today.
I can't stand that sort of attitude. Selfish and disrespectful. But anything that affects them, and you can guarantee they'll be writing strongly worded letters to the Mail and the Telegraph etc. And tutting furiously over their Supernoodles.
Scrap the nukes or get companies (and government advisors - Philip Green cough cough) to pay the tax they should!
would it focus the mind of more people though spokes?
you know what you want to be and it looks like your going to make it happen.
how many other students can say the same. do they all reach the goal of a great career with a good income.do they all have a goal?