[Closed] How exactly have humanity been fooled into thinking that?

What a load of bilge. Sounds like a few people on here could do with getting out on their bikes a bit more.

Given that everybody on here is (probably) a mountain biker, can I recommend going out for ride rather than engaging in pointless arguments with strangers on the internet?

I went for a ride round Inners this morning, very nice it was too. Why not give it a go?

What a load of bilge

kaesae - Member
I agree, we are too focused on the smaller picture and not on the larger one, our future!

Sounds very much like a political soundbite.

Meaning it sounds good on the surface, but doesn't actually mean a lot as it very vague.

I have given you reasons why focusing on the "small picture" leads to changes that effect the "bigger picture"

But you seem happier ignoring that, and inventing pointless future technologies that aren't needed.

I'll leave you to it.

You seem to happy enough not listening to advice anyway.

have a go at creating an engine to produce energy.

Apart from wind, solar and hydro you can't get any energy for free, and even then 'free' is a very slippery concept.

I think I've seen the future.

And it's not the electric car... 😀

kaesae - Member

It's simple I would like to build some form of engine that will give me free energy,

Simple:
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I suspect that kaesae is a bot.

They're just trying it out on here to iron out a few wrinkles before letting it go on the Guardian CIF boards.

Neodimium makes good magnets, but it's not a fuel. You cant burn it or decay it to release usable energy.

I would like to build some form of engine that will give me free energy

Junkyard, don't ruin it.

I was looking forward to the 1st draft of the plans being posted.

An engine that runs on naive dreams and puts out limitless energy and the only byproduct is kittens.

In other news -

"The first man I saw was of a meagre aspect, with sooty hands and face, his hair and beard long, ragged, and singed in several places. His clothes, shirt, and skin, were all of the same colour. He has been eight years upon a project for extracting sunbeams out of cucumbers, which were to be put in phials hermetically sealed, and let out to warm the air in raw inclement summers. He told me, he did not doubt, that, in eight years more, he should be able to supply the governor's gardens with sunshine, at a reasonable rate: but he complained that his stock was low"

kaesae, there are plenty of people out there working on alternative power sources that actually work, unlike wind power, which is intermittent at best.
Large scale wave power is one possibility, but comes with environmental issues itself, like the Severn Barrage, that would cause huge problems for the flocks of migrant birds that use the estuary, and the added problem of silting that is likely to occur.
Nuclear power has issues, but not insurmountable, but fusion is the best hope for clean power generation. Neodymium magnets are used in wind turbines, and the quarrying of the rare earths has lead to enormous environmental damage in China.
Li Ion batteries are used in electric vehicles, supposedly environmentally friendly, but the materials required to make such batteries have caused enormouse environmental damage in South America. And you need to generate large amounts of electricity to charge the batteries to power the vehicle that may only take you eighty miles before needing recharging.
I can get five hundred miles out of a tank of diesel before refilling. Electric cars also need the battery packs replaced every few years, like mobile phones do, at a considerable cost to the owner; would you appreciate buying a petrol car for ten thousand pounds, then be told you have to replace its engine after four years and it'll cost you four thou?
Didn't think so.
There's a cost attached to everything. 'Environmentally friendly' is a deceptive term.

franksinatra - Member

What a load of bilge. Sounds like a few people on here could do with getting out on their bikes a bit more.

Given that everybody on here is (probably) a mountain biker, can I recommend going out for [b]ride rather than engaging in pointless arguments with strangers on the internet?[/b]

Posts like that always give rise to a little chuckle. I guess the irony of your words was lost on you, Frankie Boy, else you probably wouldn't have hit the 'send post' button, eh...

You don't get energy from nothing with neodymium, it's the conflict between the two magnetic fields that create the energy, think of it as magnetic constrictor technology.

Anyway funding for a project like that would take a good amount and I'm developing my tooling then some hubs for myself as well as other stuff.

However since some smart people have turned up and some of the original intelligent people are still around as well as the others.

Why has no one created an engine using a steam powered turbine, if you used gas to heat the initial core turbine and then had an outer shell with a secondary turbine system that abosrbed as much heat as possible, you could then also run a dynamo coolant system in the outer secondary system and cause a vacuum, the engine would not be perfect, but it would be a lot more efficient than a lot of engines available just now.

Would this style of engine work?

ok here goes the flaming,
kaesae if your interested in magnetism look at the bedini motor. if your looking for a 'free' energy generator there is interesting stuff with on-demand hydrogen generation for internal combustion engines. ive personally had very limited results ie 5% inc in fuel efficiencies.
there are people claiming that introducing a cold vapour from a fogger along with a browns gas mix (hydrogen/oxygen mix from electrolysis) into a diesel results in generators running as steam engines with little/no hydrocarbon fuel introduced but iv no personal experience of this. im just too busy keeping my head above water at the mo to be experimenting

dont forget though, all these systems are from people experimenting in their garages so verification is impossible.

i would suggest looking at the yahoo group's hydroxy forum and such, maybe start with http://free-energy-info.co.uk/ but be aware there is chaff and wheat and peoples 'discoveries' published on the internet should be taken with a pinch of salt.

that said in a council flat none of these could be applied to you and please dont go mental with explosive gasses in a shared building. so as above get a mastic gun and as much insulation as you can afford and do what you can.

[b]You don't get energy from nothing[/b][s] with neodymium, it's the conflict between the two magnetic fields that create the energy, think of it as magnetic constrictor technology.

Fixed that.

But just [b]had[/b] to ask ......

......think of it as magnetic constrictor technology.

You can't possible mean..... erm...... the "technology" off Star Trek ??

I am also very busy and have invested in a snorkel, not quite above water but I get by.

In the future I will look into this, but with so much that needs done in the world, best to get started on making a difference right away!

Hahaha star trek, they were going on about hand held communicators back in the 60's, as if that will ever be popular. Some nonsense about them being wireless hahahaha hoohoohoo!

Mmmmm.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean all of it was true and "simple" to achieve.

My transporter beam is total crap and I've been working on it for years.
Can't even get me within 100 yards of the pub and I have to walk the last bit.
Total waste of £65 building it.

Hahaha star trek, they were going on about hand held communicators back in the 60's, as if that will ever be popular. Some nonsense about them being wireless hahahaha hoohoohoo!

You might like to believe that people thought the Star Trek communicators were ridiculous magic but I bet a lot of people thought it was only a matter of time. Existing things getting better != getting one over on the laws of physics.

lots of things get inspired from science fiction eg. geostationary satellites were inspired from an Arthur C Clarke novel - http://lakdiva.org/clarke/1945ww/

science [i]always[/i] gets rewritten otherwise it would be called religion.

Nah, that's not sci-fi inspiring science, that's Arthur C Clarke actually doing science. The concept of geostationery satellites wasn't new even then, he just proposed a new use for the concept, and a route towards using it.

Exactly. It wasn in a "science fiction novel" at all.

It was just "science".

Also, he was a bit too late.

The idea was first documented by someone else in 1928 apparently....

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Poto?nik

Yes and jules verne was another numpty that kept coming up with silly nonsense, rocket to the moon indeed, hahahaha!

Er... in From the Earth to the Moon Verne wrote about shooting people to the moon with a cannon.

Even so, I think you ought to be able to see the difference between "Look, some things from science fiction have come true" and "I want to build a device using technology only found in star trek"

Yes 1865 I know, however rocket to the moon sounds better!

I of course believe it was a cannon propelled rocket ship, with rockets 😯

Even so, I think [b]you ought to be able to see the difference[/b] between "Look, some things from science fiction have come true" and "I want to build a device using technology only found in star trek"

You would think wouldn't you.

It's all to do with sex.

How else can a lady tell that I am a capable provider other than by looking at all the stuff I've accrued?

My material posessions are the equivalent of the peacocks tail. The genius of marketing is exploiting this in a way that isn't obvious.

That's where the deception occurs.

thats why i always show girls my room full of bikes, spin, girls are always really impressed with a man who has lots of bicycles 😉

in other news, northwind has finally answered the philosophical question of art inspires life inspires art.
now if you could move on to the chicken/egg quandary.....

How else can a lady tell that I am a capable provider other than by looking at all the stuff I've accrued

so true.. although I have met some women on my travels that assessed my capabilities by communicating with me..!! 😯

maaaaaan that was so weird.. I still have bad dreams about it now whilst laying on my piles of riches burping and farting loudly to attract females to my lair..

jonah tonto - Member

now if you could move on to the chicken/egg quandary...

Egg. Obviously.

he he

Good point, Spin. Except that I have never had so much success with women as when I was hitching around with my worldly possessions in a rucksack.

Are men equally impressed with women that have lots of bicycles? Madame has more than I'm prepared to admit to on a public forum no doubt frequented by bike thieves.

It's a generational thing too. Those with the finances to do something are often old and reluctant to invest in things that won't pay for themselves in the years they have left to live. You'd hope they'd think of their grandchildren but apparently not. That cruise gets priority over helping with university fees or Insulating that fiver-bedroom house they maintain at 22°C helped by a government heating allowance.

Aah but that's the thing yunki, not all women have depth and are as a result, beautiful.

Some wear so much make up! that they look like they have face planted into a cow pat.

Some have finger nails that would put a drunken ninja off, approaching them 😯

Some eat enough in a week to feed a village of africans for quite some time.

That said I would place money that there are more selfish, greedy, shallow women in the world, than intelligent, witty, charming ones.

A lot of good perspectives on the problems we face as a people, have been highlighted in this thread and if you have the inclination, a lot can be learnt from it!

a lot can be learnt from it!

Success can be down to many things, perhaps you are dashing and charming 😀 to the opposite sex at least 😉

Valid point, materialism distorts the perspectives of a great many people these days!

As for women, no comment!

[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-Fall-Third-Chimpanzee/dp/0099913801/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326048725&sr=1-1 ]The rise and fall of the third chimpanzee[/url]

Worth a look 😉

Hahaha! the naked ape!