[Closed] Hopkins sacked from LBC

Cougar - Moderator
I wasn't doubting that; the context was in response to you questioning "Do you actually read her twitter or Bookface? Why?" This is why; if you engage with the world then it's unavoidable. I can't stand football, but I hear about it most days of my life.

Football has been going on for how long by comparison to twitwter or bookmyface?

There your argument is flawed.

I thought I remembered you saying you didn't watch TV; my mistake. I'm still surprised that you've never heard of either Hopkins or Morgan though, they've surely been in the news (KH certainly).

Of all the people you are amongst the most internet/web/pooter savvy you want to argue that point? Isn't it the modern tech era that allow people to click or see what they wish and what they don't wish?

C'mon Cougar you have just contradicted the technology you use.

Oh ya ... I did not see her (KH) on BBC website ... honest.

Keith's link is filed under "entertainment" but that's misleading, it's a report on some of the times that KH has been in the headlines. Here's a random example (and you'll like it, it has "news" in the URL this time). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38367563

I did not notice her and unlike you I read what I want to read. 😆

Yeah, and that's the point exactly. Being ignorant is understandable, being wilfully ignorant is... I dunno, it seems weird to me.

So by your assumption you know everything in this world? i.e. if you know less you are ignorant so I take it you know it all? 😀

keithr - Member
And glorying in ignorance is positively medieval - it's exactly the attitude that fosters the backward religious fundamentalism that's spannering the world up...

Do you know everything in this world or do you understand completely all religions in this world? 😯

Cougar can't you just change the trolls password to a very long line of characters? It's not censorship just removing the trolls platform.
If he isnt a troll can you u just block for being thick

mikewsmith - Member

I need to answer them.

It is Not trolling.

I have answered them according to my own views or logic.

If they cannot agree with me then we have a disagreement in views.

That does not mean I am trolling.

You don't have to run to the mods every time I answered with my own logic.

You may disagree with my logic but that is fine with me.

You Do Not need to engage me if you think my logic is not good enough for you.

I respect your views but I also question them.

Questioning your views is the least I can do.

🙂

Cougar can't you just change the trolls password to a very long line of characters? It's not censorship just removing the trolls platform.
If he isnt a troll can you u just block for being thick

What you have just suggested is incitement with underhand tactics that you as person may find distasteful if that happens to you.

Therefore, why do you incite others to use underhand tactics?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/26/heroic-black-humour-hatred-choose-british-values

He might learn something if he was to read this.

Maybe it's my browser (Opera) but this forum doesn't seem to have an "ignore user" function.

Is there one? I need it...

I'll just leave this here, only two people on my blacklist - but the whole STW experience is much better for not having to endure their deranged ramblings/mad Tory lies.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stw-killfile-plugin

Do you know everything in this world or do you understand completely all religions in this world?

Interesting - and telling - question.

[b]Unlike you[/b], at least I try and [i]find out[/i].

I don't spend my time with my head jammed up my fundament having affirmatory conversations with myself about the inherent rightness of every little thing I make up as an alternative to facts, in my narrow, cloistered, petty, made-up world view.

Thanks, Cha****ng - I'm on it.

Isn't it the modern tech era that allow people to click or see what they wish and what they don't wish?

You miss my point. You can choose to watch a news broadcast, but you cannot choose what news they report. You can choose to read individual articles on the web that may interest you, but you cannot choose what stories are presented to you in the first place.

Football has been going on for how long by comparison to twitwter or bookmyface?
There your argument is flawed.

You miss my point. I was talking about not being able to avoid things just because you don't like them.

So by your assumption you know everything in this world? i.e. if you know less you are ignorant so I take it you know it all?

You miss my point (there's theme here and I'm beginning to think it's intentional). There are no doubt many things in the world I'm ignorant of. But that's a failing on my part, not something to be worn as a badge of honour.

You miss my point

no shit sherlock

What were you expecting cogent replies, reasoned debate, faultless logic?
🙄

I'm beginning to think it's intentional

I refer to the point i made a few moments ago

Its what he does, endlessly, whilst it works

Ghost ban him and see if he notices 😉

Cougar - Moderator
You miss my point. You can choose to watch a news broadcast, but you cannot choose what news they report. You can choose to read individual articles on the web that may interest you, but you cannot choose what stories are presented to you in the first place.

I agree with that explanation.

However, this is my explanation.

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

Unlike my work colleagues that have to read everything on the news or news paper (getting their value worth) I don't do that.

Hence, regardless of the content if I don't click them I don't see them.

You miss my point. I was talking about not being able to avoid things just because you don't like them.

Yes, you can. You just don't click on them. For example, if I see certain headings that do not attract my attention I just ignore them. As for KH on BBC website I did not notice her as headline news.

You miss my point (there's theme here and I'm beginning to think it's intentional). There are no doubt many things in the world I'm ignorant of. But that's a failing on my part, not something to be worn as a badge of honour.

Not intentional.

My view is that how do you measure or assume one is not ignorant if they live in a "different" world or indeed walking different path?

Can a person claim to be non-ignorant if they know a particular piece of information but not in full detail?

I know KH from Apprentice but I don't know her political views in any details. In the Apprentice she argued often but that's all I know about her.

Honestly, people need to relax ...

What I want to know is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter? 😯

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

But you still see the headline even if you don't read the article.

What I want to know is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter?

Now I know you're doing it on purpose, or you're just employing your selective reading approach here too, as I've already answered that.

Junkyard - lazarus
Ghost ban him and see if he notices

Junkyard I have tried not to engage you because I know every time you loose out on arguments you are going to enlist the mods to ban me.

I have stopped responding to you on many occasions to avoid this.

Even when I stop engaging you, you seem never want to let go but rather decide to incite the mods.

You cannot keep inciting the mods to ban me even if I am not engaging you.

Relax ... chill ... 😯

Cougar - Moderator

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

But you still see the headline even if you don't read the article.

No, I cannot remember seeing the headline for KH. Perhaps it is the way I set up the screen that only allow me to see the two or three rows of the front page news. I doubt KH is the headline put it this way. (my browser is set to 170%)

Now I know you're doing it on purpose, or you're just employing your selective reading approach here too, as I've already answered that.

Please don't keep making false assumption about me then use that to accuse me.

Sometimes when I look at some of the STW threads I just want to question the posters that's all.

[b]Do Not set me up as a troll because I am Not[/b].

Perhaps there is cultural differences in terms of the way we engage people but then that's who we are.

I have no sinister intention to harm anyone apart from questioning their views.

😯

2. I am here on STW before many of you.

I [b]was[/b] here on STW before many of you.

Is the algorithm still playing up?

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Sometimes when I look at some of the STW threads I just want to question the posters that's all.

Commas!

every time you loose out on arguments

every time you [b]lose[/b] out on arguments

If anything, marking your work is more tedious than the content itself.

Please don't keep making false assumption about me then use that to accuse me.

You asked a question I'd already answered. That's not a false assumption, it's a fact. So either you're wilfully trying to wind people up, or you didn't read it. If there's a third case which I've missed then I apologise.

I'm not setting you up as anything (false assumptions, hey?) Any perceptions people may have that you're trolling is of your own making, I'm afraid. Personally I'm not sure whether you are or not, maybe it is just a cultural thing.

If anything, marking your work is more tedious than the content itself.

TBF, picking up on people's typing is more tedious still. It's usually a sign that you've run out of better arguments.

Bear in mind that we have at least one dyslexic on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Gibberish is his native tongue 😉

TBF, picking up on people's typing is more tedious still. It's usually a sign that you've run out of better arguments.

Bear in mind that we have at least one dyslexic on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Yeah, you're probably right. I've spent the day up to now riding my bike on Cut Gate, so I thought I'd try to come back onto the field in an impact role.

Actually, **** it, I've had a top day so far, so shooting troll-fish in a barrel is wasting my time.

dannyh - Member

I welcome that. You can correct my grammars as long as you wish. 😀

Cougar - Moderator
Bear in mind that we have at least one[b] dyslexic[/b] on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Are you making fun of them? I might be reading it wrongly ... 😯

I've no idea how, but yes you are.

Cougar - Moderator
I've no idea how, but yes you are.

Okay. 🙂

[b]What I want to know[/b] is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter?

If that's [b]really[/b] what you want to know, why did you ignore the people who have already answered that exact question ?

I know I've answered it.

And I know cougar did also.

So. Why aren't you reading the replies to your questions. And then asking them again and again as if they somehow inciteful and intelligent?

I usually like Chewy's contributions.
🙂

I don't find him offensive at all, seems to be done in good humour.

asking them again and again as if they somehow [b]inciteful [/b]and intelligent?

I know I've just said about not picking up on people's spelling and typos, but you may have accidentally made your question more appropriate there. (-:

What RS said. My lord do his posts confuse me sometimes, but I've never seen him post anything remotely aggressive, unpleasant or rude. Which is more than can be said than most of us, and to my shame, myself included.

So less of the bullying (which essentially preying on a perceived easy target is). Not that he seems incapable of dealing with it.

I should reiterate, I still have no idea what he's saying most of the time 🙂

OK, since it's gone this way- Chewkw is almost never rude or aggressive. But he is a derailer of threads, to the point it's pretty antisocial, and disrespectful of other users sometimes IMO. Pretty much any subject can become a Chewkw gibberish party and once it does it often just kills it..

I often find his views quite insightful.

He does respond when prodded (quite hard, sometimes) but honestly, the guys harmless and pretty funny with it.

Crack on sunshine.
🙂

So less of the bullying

I see no bullying.

This thread was never going to go anywhere useful, but it isn't exactly the first thread to go this way because of the contributions of one (or two) poster(s). People stating their frustration at that isn't bullying. However, it is wiser just to step away and accept another thread filling with nonsense. That many of us keep biting reflects badly on us. We should stop. It isn't bullying though, just frustration. Just walk away people. Leave it.

Or just get it back on track.

A good thread can survive a bit of nonsense.
And as said, it's obviously not malicious, there doesn't seem to be any agenda behind it.

He's just this guy, y'know?

Sorry, wasn't trying to derail this myself. If I'm honest I find most what he spouts hard to decipher.

I just struggle to watch the nastiness thrown his way, when I see no evidence of such an attitude coming from him.

If he's cockwonble in other ways, then I've failed to notice.

Anyhow, carry on 🙂

I see no bullying.

Well our definitions differ 🙂

I know I've just said about not picking up on people's spelling and typos,

I think the generally accepted thing to do in these situations is to claim dyslexia isn't it 😉

(I'm not. I'm just northern)

This thread is the perfect example of why I will never buy the magazine, which I am told is actually quite good.
That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.
It really doesn't look good on the owners that they allow this to continue.

Explain where the bullying is please.

Edit- by the way, are you really saying, that you don't buy the mag, which you know is actually good, because of people discussing things on the forum?

That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.

I can assure you that the Moderators have responded to and acted upon every reported post on this thread, all zero of them. I counted twice to be sure.

bearnecessities - Member
What RS said. My lord do his posts confuse me sometimes, but I've never seen him post anything remotely aggressive, unpleasant or rude. Which is more than can be said than most of us, and to my shame, myself included.

So less of the bullying (which essentially preying on a perceived easy target is). Not that he seems incapable of dealing with it.

I should reiterate, I still have no idea what he's saying most of the time

As is often the case with those whose first language isn't English, syntax is one of the first things that gets skewed, and it's often particularly noticeable with Eastern languages, not sure quite why that is, possibly with not having a common root language like the Romance languages.
Hungarian and Finnish have no common connection with any other European language, and any other language at all, IIRC, and not having anything in common as regards grammar, written structure, etc, is I think, what leads to Chewkw's at times mangled syntax.
And I definitely agree with the rest of what bear says, there are those who will pick an argument with an empty room and work themselves into a rage over it; Chewkw at least manages to maintain an air of remarkable restrained calm in the face of some of the harangues that he gets.
In much the same way as Chewkw, I pretty much refrain from contact with any so-called 'reality TV', it's a true oxymoron, and I've far better things to do with my time, so although I've never, ever, watched anything with the vile creature that is KH, or Piers Morgan for that matter, I'm fully aware of stuff that does get into the general public media, and so I'm able to form a proper opinion on what they're like as people.
I guess the word is by osmosis, I guess, and I suspect that Chewkw gets a fair amount of info like this, without it carrying much in the way of real detail.
These are just some thoughts that have bubbled to the surface while reading through this thread, so I've stuck them down in the hope it might lead to a bit of extra clarity.
Probably not, but it costs nothing but some time, eh.

I guess the word is by osmosis

Going from a less dense to a more dense medium? That's a perfect description of our mainstream media. (-:

I guess the word is by osmosis, I guess, and I suspect that Chewkw gets a fair amount of info like this,

Apparently not.

He saw her once on The Apprentice 11 years ago and hasn't seen or heard of her since. Nothing at all.

And has never seen Piers Morgan, or Heard of him, apart from that one time a year ago when he saw 2 minutes of him doing an interview.

No osmosis, just nothing at all.

That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.

Where has that happened?

I've given yer man the benefit of the doubt with regard to English possibly not being his first language (I think I saw something about it on another thread - another example of taking notice of what's going on around me) but his deliberate, obtuse refusal to inform himself about a subject before going on,

and on,

and on,

and on,

about it;

deliberately ignoring solid answers from numerous contributors to his repeated questions; all the while happily admitting that he has has [i]no clue[/i] about the topic under discussion, is pretty poor.

Even if you do think he's doing it with a smile on his face and a song in his heart, it's not what I call acceptable forum behaviour.

I'm new here, so maybe it flies (it would appear not, mind). My personal rule of thumb is "would I tolerate nonsense like this face to face?"

I doubt I'm alone in answering "no" to that one...

My personal rule of thumb is "would I tolerate nonsense like this face to face?"

That is a very good rule. And in this case I would just be ignoring them or walking away.

In much the same way as Chewkw, I pretty much refrain from contact with any so-called 'reality TV'

Me too - never watched [i]any[/i] reality TV in my whole life. Not a single moment of it.

But I don't live under a rock, and Hopkins is an unpleasant fact of life, even though I've not sought her out, and some of us are utterly baffled by the extent to which Chewkw has claimed ignorance of her existence - it hardly seems possible to be at the same time online and yet [i]that[/i] "off the grid" with regard to what's going on in the world.

The point, however, is that he has gone to [i]great[/i] lengths to "contribute" to this thread, while admitting it's a topic he knows [i]absolutely nothing about[/i].

What in God's name is that about?

Isn't that a species of trolling? It is to me.

That is a very good rule. And in this case I would just be ignoring them or walking away.

Yep, but when you're on a conversation because you want to contribute, is it fair that [i]you[/i] have to bend to accommodate the wilfully peculiar conduct of others?

There's something to be said for calling out disruptive behaviour on a forum.

WTF! What is that? What's this shite about "Happy & Merry Holiday"?

I could not believe my ears when that girl said it at the end of the H&M tv ad ... that girl looks familiar but I can't remember who she is now. Think I might have seen here somewhere on news before ... hmmm ...

What's happening or has it happened already?

Can't you say Merry Xmas? Merry XXX-mas? Merry Satanic-mas? Merry this or happy that anymore?

See that. Correct use of tenses, articles, the question form, just one typo. A post critical of a TV presenter's English from someone who plays at writing pseudo-foreign English. Because that's the way I see it, he's taking the Micky out of foreign accents and linguistic tics which is pretty xenophobic whilst claiming to be a legal alien - who can vote in British elections. There are too many contradictions in Chewkw's Internet persona. I called toll a long time back, he's either his immigrant community's worst possible ambassador or someone who hates immigrants (I could write a long list of other things he hates here, there are a couple in the above quote), or both.

Edit: Google says Hopkins is the female version of Clarkson if I've read it right.

Proves he watches more than just the BBC, too..!

😉

Google says Hopkins is the female version of Clarkson if I've read it right.

Honestly, she's orders of magnitude worse.