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Yes I’m selfish and feel entitled,

Those weren't the first two words that sprang to mind to describe your attitude, I'll be honest


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:39 am
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We’re in Devon, but luckily not an over-touristy town…unless you’re really into Samuel Taylor Coleridge 😉

Not planning on going anywhere further than the beach or Dartmoor, and then it’ll be at sensible times of day to avoid grockles.

A30 was closed due to a fatal crash a couple of weeks ago (probably the jam someone mentioned earlier in the thread).

Unfortunately, rather than follow the proper diversion, every **** tried to take a ‘short cut’ through our small, narrow Laned town.
That was fun.

I'm on my sisters farm in Venn Ottery/Southerton very quiet, Ottery is not the town to have traffic diverted through!!! Came down from the Wirral two Saturdays ago and it was an easy journey 4hrs 5mins  🙂


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:50 am
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So we’re on a cycling forum and people are seriously arguing more roads are the answer to congestion. Jeez.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:51 am
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Unless people have sussed out a way to drive two cars at once how is the traffic going to increase?

Because not everyone (who could) will use roads now (because they're congested). But building more capacity (for a short time at least) will relieve the problem, as the current volume of traffic has more space...word gets out and the now "empty" road attract more users...road soon fills up again.

That's how.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:01 pm
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how is the traffic going to increase?

As the others have said - people drive more - things like deciding the new road makes commutting easier so they move to a place where they can commutte on the new roads etc etc

yo also get the effect of just moving the congestion to somewhere else - ie build a new bypass, traffic goes up and flows OK on the new bit but the old bit of road further on there is now more traffic so thats gets congested.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:28 pm
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We are just back from our holiday, massive road trip from Scottish Borders to Bristol to Cornwall to Herefordshire to Buckinghamshire to Borders. Just under 2000 miles driven altogether. Most of it was superb with hardly any meaningful traffic, last night we drove back from Oxford to Borders in under 6 hours, including brief stop.

A crash on the A30 a few weeks ago resulted in a 9hr trip back to Bristol from Cornwall for my parents!

I know all about that one, it was on the day we drove Bristol to Cornwall (via Stonehenge). Google saw me through it with epic diversions along tiny C roads for hour after hour.

Unfortunately, rather than follow the proper diversion, every **** tried to take a ‘short cut’ through our small, narrow Laned town.

There wasn't a diversion in place when we got there, just a road closed sign. Had no choice but to put trust in Google


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:31 pm
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There’s around 56 million adults in the U.K. and around 32 million cars.

Theres literally millions of people who could join the rest of us as part of the problem

55% of all rail journeys are undertaken by commuters so not being able to rely on it (frustrating as it can be at times) is bobbins. No idea on busses personally but loads of people locally use them for commuting so I’m calling that bobbins too. And 83.9% of the U.K. lives in an urban location.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:48 pm
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