[Closed] Have we REALLY been to the moon?

The flag is fluttering in the pics of the first moon landing. I reckon that was a fake, but we got there in the end. Just America cheated!

Well I haven't been and no one I know has so no.
Having said that, my dad once met Yuri Gagarin, who I guess got further than most. But if my dad got some tips off him and managed to get there, he's been keeping quiet about it.

Lack of gravity and oxygen would make it pretty grim. Wouldn't be much fun going downhill on a bike anyway!

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Has she met Elvis?

The flag is fluttering in the pics of the first moon landing. I reckon that was a fake, but we got there in the end. Just America cheated!

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Wouldn't it be great if Buzz Aldrin could just travel the world, punching moon landing skeptics? He'd turn up at the front door with a clipboard, ask your name, probably he'd want to check ID or get you to ask a few simple questions, then pop you one. Then a little tick on the clipboard and off he'd go.

Tom83, the flag doesn't flutter, it just flaps around as the astronauts plant it.

Not a copy and pasted picture! The worst kind! 😉

Whilst the sceptic info is very convincing, however, it's really quite something to stand on daytona beach and watch the space shuttle take off at nighttime and reach space ... It's then that you realise that they probably did make it there

I suggest those who keep on about the flappy flag thing get a piece of aluminium foil, attach it to the top of an aluminium pole, then try to stick it in the ground without the flag flapping.
If the Americans had failed to get there, can anyone imagine the Russians not being all over it like a rash?
Jeezus, it's not like there was anything extraordinary about the tech, build a chuffin' great rocket, light blue touch paper and stand well back, fingers crossed.

Wouldn't it be great if Buzz Aldrin could just travel the world, punching moon landing skeptics? He'd turn up at the front door with a clipboard, ask your name, probably he'd want to check ID or get you to ask a few simple questions, then pop you one. Then a little tick on the clipboard and off he'd go.

Had never seen the video clip before. "You're a coward, and a..." *PUNCH* superb!

Until I hear the FACTS from a medical professional, I remain undecided.

Well, for the conspiracy theorists why have none of them explained the propagation delay in the signals.

Easy for NASA to put a delay in the send/receive cycle, but amateur (and Russian) radio could have tuned in and targeted the signal and done some funky stuff to prove that the signals were coming from where they were.

Or maybe the Russians and radio hams were all in on the ruse.

/rolls eyes.

Well something got there - and back. Otherwise I must have been dead clever to manage a petrological study of lunar basalt samples....

Wouldn't it be great if Buzz Aldrin could just travel the world, punching moon landing skeptics?

Now that's the sort of program NASA should be concentrating on now they've got rid of the Shuttle.

fisha - Member
Whilst the sceptic info is very convincing,

Really? Which bits? Most I've read has been fairly unconvincing. Or required a greater investment of time and money than actually sending men to the moon.

Well something got there - and back. Otherwise I must have been dead clever to manage a petrological study of lunar basalt samples....

Gf asks "How do you know they are lunar samples? What evidence do you have they were collected from there and not from ancient volcanic residue??"

Lunar basalt samples are fake, the moon is made from cheese.

The flag moves when he is holding onto the flagpole and shaking it slightly. You can see from the way the fabric moves that there's no air, if you think about it.

The reason we never went back is that there was no reason to. And it was very expensive to go there in the first place, setting up a moon base would have been a million times more expensive.

We only went to stick one on the Ruskies. Point proven, end of moon programme. Simple, innit. Like your Missus 🙂

Facts to me, are things that I can prove to the satisfaction of others. And on that basis, regarding the validity of any moon landings during the Cold War, I'm out!

The best evidence I've seen against the moon landing is from a photographer who notices photos taken on the moon that are incompatible with the list of photographic equipment taken.

Lunar basalt samples are fake, the moon is made from cheese.

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We only went to stick one on the Ruskies. Point proven, end of moon programme. Simple, innit. Like your Missus

We? You American, Molgrips?

Four words.

Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment.

And then she can check for herself. Sure it'll cost, but not much in the big scheme of things and what price truth?

Whilst the sceptic info is very convincing

'we' did go back Mol, 5 more times (allegedly)

I see many have a problem with the concept of proof, or even critical thinking.

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Dunno about 'we'....I've been there,it was crap.No cash converters.

The Mooninites are not amused....

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Ok, so if they went to the moon, howcome no pictures of the astronauts meeting the Clangers then, eh ??

Explain that one !

OP, your GF is an idiot 😀

Junkyard - Member

mythbusters busted them all

Mythbusters is a zionist establishment shill, the fact that they claim to bust these "myths" proves that they must be true!

[i]Wouldn't it be great if Buzz Aldrin could just travel the world, punching moon landing skeptics? He'd turn up at the front door with a clipboard, ask your name, probably he'd want to check ID or get you to ask a few simple questions, then pop you one. Then a little tick on the clipboard and off he'd go.[/i]

There we go. I knew if I hung around STW for long enough, the funniest thing ever would get posted. My son is in bed now, still laughing. He's 16. Thanks.

emsz - Member

OP, your GF is an idiot

+1 🙂

I spent most of Saturday in the Science Museum in London where they have a brilliant space collection on at the moment. I knew all about the conspiracy theories before I went in, but came out quite amazed by everything.

I am sure the moon rock has been proved to be totally unlike anything else on Earth?
I'm pretty sure that we will be back on the moon sometime soon and maybe to Mars in my lifetime.

I am sure the moon rock has been proved to be totally unlike anything else on Earth?

I'm surprised if that is true, as the accepted theory is that the moon was formed from lumps of Earth after a collision with an asteroid.

Are you trying to tell me this didn't happen?

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That's my childhood ruined.

i hope it was true as i begged to be allowed to stay up late that night.. mission control.. nasa nerds in short sleeves and specs sat at row of pooters the stuff of a seven yr olds dreams.. liked the radio blackouts during re entry and the 'splash down' at the end.. they couldnt make it up..

The best evidence I've seen against the moon landing is from a photographer who notices photos taken on the moon that are incompatible with the list of photographic equipment taken

Go on then... flesh that one out?

I see many have a problem with the concept of proof, or even critical thinking.

Ooh.. this could get fun 🙂 I love proof, me 🙂

If we have been, why have we never returned and set up cam

ps your burd's a bit dim!

"The best evidence I've seen against the moon landing is from a photographer who notices photos taken on the moon that are incompatible with the list of photographic equipment taken."

That was the head technician at Hasselblad at the time of the moon landings - he couldn't understand how the crosshairs present at the corners of each frame could have been obscured by the flag and rocky outcrops, in the negatives from the moon. In fact, even with no understanding of camera view-finders, it's patently impossible.

But I've been here before and had the same argument, and there are those on the forum who apparently have a better understanding of the way light refracts than the man responsible for designing and building cameras to take into space.

EDIT: that's not to say I don't believe there have been men on the moon, but those negs were doctored IMO. Perhaps they were damaged and they felt the need to prove their attendance on the moon by faking the photos?

how did we know there was no gravity or air outside our world?

i guess we are just 1 big 'trumans show' after all

STW dissapoints me. Although I could watch that Buzz aldrin Punch daily and never tire of it. The NASA BUZZ PUNCH project sounds like a rad idea.

user-removed - Member

EDIT: that's not to say I don't believe there have been men on the moon, but those negs were doctored IMO. Perhaps they were damaged and they felt the need to prove their attendance on the moon by faking the photos?

FWIW NASA have never denied that some photos were doctored for cosmetic reasons before being released.

I don't know much about film photography but I've seen demonstrations showing a similiar effect where a black mark on the plate gets drowned out by a white object in the shot... Basically an overexposure artifact. All the examples that the "deniers" use seem to fit that description- bright white objects on darker backgrounds. So that could be it maybe.

The other thing about the crosshairs is that nobody really seems sure what they would prove. If nothing else can account for them then yes, they're proof that the photos may have been doctored. But so what? In that case, they're either genuine doctored photos or fake doctored photos. It doesn't tell you anything about whether the original undoctored photo was genuine.

If you look at a magazine cover tomorrow, chances are it'll have been enhanced- sadly this doesn't disprove the existance of Jordan, or whoever else it might be. It just means people like photos to look good.

Another +1 for the gf being an idiot

Or with this type of idiocy a Christian perhaps