Forum menu
[quote=jonba ]I wonder if the SNP will move south of the border. Pretty sure in the NE and NW they could threaten some seats.
On their current platform of staying in the EU? 😯
It would also threaten their credibility on their principle policy. No, I think they'll stick with the power base they have, much as some in England might look North enviously at parties with strong leaders.
Mind control drugs in the water...
that and-or contrails.
No sillyies...through the old fashioned method of erosion of sovereign powers through more and more treaties and less democracy 🙂
Remember George Papendreou, he talked about a referendum, was it the next day he [i]resigned[/i]?
If you believed everything was hunky inside the EU and you were happy to be part of the big European Super State, then that's your view and your are entitled to it.
I think it's a "lovely idea", but I'm also a firm believer in the fact it's unworkable. Too much diversity in different countries economies to ever have underneath one umbrella.
I would have preferred us to try and change things from within...but that's not likely to happen now.
Who knows, perhaps the Europeans made it quite clear that if we were likely to come to some kind of mutual deal then Boris was to have nothing to do with it, perhaps they made it quite clear that if he was involved they would make absolutely sure they would do everything in their power to screw him.
...Or he never ever thought they would win and he's now bricked it.
Most of this stuff us mere mortals will never know the true story.
Mind control drugs...really....everyone knows every time you catch a plane they pump stuff into the air system 😉
franksinatra - Member
On the night of the referendum I had an intense (not dirty) dream about May becoming PM. Had the same dream twice since. Just sayin...
You're a very naughty boy. Report to the Head Girl immediately.
WHY?it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Most tory MPS don't support leaving the EU
Its not exactly going well for labour having a leader the Parliamentary party don't back
On the night of the referendum I had an intense (not dirty) dream about May becoming PM. Had the same dream twice since. Just sayin...
[img] 
[/img]
...Or he never ever thought they would win and he's now bricked it.
Very much this.
In his own self-interest he creates one almighty car crash, then realises that he hasn't got a clue what to do about it, so basically runs off and leaves everyone else to sort out his almighty * up!
What a *!!!!!
"Nuts in May" - Had me Laughing out loud. Great fun 🙂
"Nuts in may" - after that thought I doubt I'll be able to get it up for a month.
Spankingly good. 😀
WHY?
Most tory MPS don't support leaving the EU
That's true, but how many have the stones to disregard the referendum?
I was appalled at how Farage's performance in Brussels the other day reminded me of Panto, and now this - he's behind you, Boris.
Please remember, this is how the world is viewing us now.
Please remember, this is how the world is viewing us now.
....and this is how the world is viewing US at the moment.
[img] 
[/img]
I wonder if the SNP will move south of the border. Pretty sure in the NE and NW they could threaten some seats.
Pity that the SNP haven't twigged yet that the easiest way to get what they want is to win a majority at Westminster and then make up their own rules.
If they joined with a preexisting national party who share many of their views and who don't care much about independence either way.
A party which most voters agree with but don't take seriously because the lack the serious politcial credentials.
A national SNP / Green party alliance perhaps. The moral high ground of the Greens combined with the efficient, ruthless political machine that is the SNP currently.
There'd be an unusual choice for the countryside brexiteers.
I didn't know you were a Luxembourger Perchy.
and this is how the world is viewing US at the moment.
Where's Nic's right hand?
<barf>
Where's Nic's right hand?
He's presumably back at Holyrood standing in for First Ministers questions....... and not resigning.....or launching a leadership challenge.
I didn't know you were a Luxembourger Perchy.
I is European, innit!
I is European, innit!
🙂
it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
It's been observed that the frontrunner never wins the Tory leadership, but this is the reason I think May WILL get it in this instance.
And anyway, we could argue that Boris was the frontrunner initially.
Boris already being painted as a poor kicked puppy who has been brutally backstabbed by the evil pantomime villian .
Phase 1 of the " deny all knowledge and play the victim so that I can act all jolly and be the PM when the mess is all cleared up" plan complete.....
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36674729 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36674729[/url]
ratherbeintobago - Member
it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
My impression is that "Bill Cash Nutcase Tendency" sums up the bulk of the Conservative party. If they're presented with the choise of a eurosceptic candidate or a pro EU candidate, they'll back the eurosceptic. The only way the parliamentary Conservative party can prevent that is to stitch up the leadership election so only two pro-EU options are given to the wider membership.
Theresa May has played the odds by officially backing remain while implying she was actually pretty eurosceptic.
Where's Nic's right hand?
@Perchy - look again at the photo and the facial expressions - i.e. she looks surprised and he looks like he's on the vinegar strokes. 🙄
I'm sure he knew what you meant dannyh, smart (topical) response too 🙂
Just watched the footage of Boris' announcement. The bit towards the end where he's trying to stifle a smile is funny as ****.
I'm sure he knew what you meant dannyh, smart (topical) response too
Just making sure - a knob joke should always be appreciated for what it is.
Speaking of cocks, what has Farage been up today?
Speaking of cocks, what has Farage been up today?
He's been out raising awareness for his cause.
[img] 
[/img]
Shame the clown prince didn't get to hold the reins for a while! His negotiating skills would have ****ed job right up 😀 guaranteeing the tories wouldn't get a third term, the old boys knew that though!
I'm sure he knew what you meant dannyh,
Oh i knew what he meant. 🙂
Looks like Juncker enjoyed the w**k that Scotland sent much more than the w**k that England sent....
[img] 
[/img]
This isn't about single people ..... gove, johnson or may
It's Cons central at work
May or Gove to do the donkey work .... Boris to sink into the background until the next GE ... when he can connect with "the people" once again
All the while A50 is going to get kicked down the road again and again by the Tory party whilst they wait for other EU citizens to register protest votes in their own countries, thus triggering a renegotiation of rules led by the richer (bigger) nations . Whilst they wait for this that and the other they continuously reassure the 17m that their wishes will be honoured…….. but they never will.
Oldest play in the book
Divide and rule
They've done it to the country, they are doing it to the EU
Wassisname's got the party behind him...
[img] 
[/img]
You know you're ****ed when you're supporters state their support with powerpoint.
If only Labour could find a principled man of belief with tons of grass-roots party support
Ha!
Enjoying the irony of a Polish-born MP supporting a xenophobic candidate who is prepared to lie about EU immigration
So which Shakespeare play is it they're acting out, and who will be the last person standing?
Ro5ey - Member
This isn't about single people ..... gove, johnson or may
It's Cons central at work
I'm sure you like to think that. It probably helps to take the sting out of what's happening to the Peoples Party for you, I would imagine.
So which Shakespeare play is it they're acting out, and who will be the last person standing?
Exactly what I've been thinking. Most suitable title is Comedy of Errors but the plot doesn't fit.
I reckon they need someone a bit left of Gove et all, who supported Brexit, with experience in a senior political role.
Surely JC is in with a shout?
So which Shakespeare play is it they're acting out, and who will be the last person standing?
We are about half way through Coriolanus.
looks like someone started at the back half and worked forwards mefty?
I might start a petition asking the Queen to dissolve this parliament so that we can have a general election.
That would settle the doubt over the referendum result, at least - and the week's events should ensure a high turn out.
(But I suspect she's a closet Brexiteer, despite the family history.)
I was thinking of Johnson's role as mayor as equivalent to Corianlanus's army career and now he has been deposed on his way to Consulship. Now we await, with bated breath, his reaping of vengeance from exile - popcorn at the ready.
Bottom Midsummer's night dream
Total ass, fell in love, spurned by his love who on awakening from the enchantment find him repulsive and disgusting and then becomes a laughing stock
Needs a revenge though I guess to really work
Thank you everyone - this thread has been my go-to read all day!
We are about half way through Coriolanus.
I had it more as Titus Andronicus.
If he was a Gladiator he'd be Bicurious