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I flew Manchester to Japan with KLM - via Schiphol. Service was great.


 
Posted : 26/02/2016 11:38 pm
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My pilot mate used to call every city by its airport code ! These days they are useful for quick entry on all the booking websites


 
Posted : 26/02/2016 11:53 pm
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I travel too much. Last year has been mainly US, about once a month or so, but have previously done a lot more globally. Going global again now as well.

I think my record was a month containing Madrid, Barcelona, Moscow, Washington DC, Boston, Singapore, Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney and home.

Anyone who says work travel is glamorous hasn't done much of it.


 
Posted : 27/02/2016 12:03 am
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Pondo please update when you get back.

We're back! Flew out half nine Easter Monday evening with Air China, flight to Beijing wasn't half bad - expecting rubbish food we ate beforehand but it was fine (and served very early in the flight, so we were stuffed!), touchscreen entertainment thingies which was quick and easy to use. Beijing was a beeyatch to get through, even though we were just getting a connection we had to go through the full security screening thing, and they take it pretty serious over there, very short transfer (like an hour and a half or something) and we had to push through the big queues to make our flight. Think it was about three hours to Haneda, landed about half nine/ten on Tuesday night, worrying about getting to our hotel before all the public transport shut down at midnight - almost inevitably, once we cleared security there was a nice lady waiting for us to say our bags hadn't made it (Mrs Pondo, being an angel, had made sure we had clothing for a few days in our hand luggage so no drama), and public transport was a doddle to navigate (and super standing-room-only busy, even approaching midnight on a Tuesday), got to our ryokan about midnight.

Flight back, much less fun - left Haneda at half eight, no drama to Beijing where we had a five hour stopover which was bobbins, almost an hour to get through security and customer service was pants compared to what we'd experienced in Japan. Left Beijing about half four in the afternoon, entertainment thingies were cable remote and rubbish, very slow and prone to crashing, food a step down on what we had on the way out, they ran out of beer and insisted on having the shutters down all afternoon, so saw very little of Russia, landed about nine in the evening, same day we left. That was a long hard slog of a flight. ๐Ÿ™

Our tips for going over there and getting around would be -
- Make sure you've got a couple of days worth of clothing in your hand luggage, in case your bags don't make the connection either.
- If you're going to travel around, the JR pass is flipping brilliant. If you're not going to travel around, it's a lot of money.
- Suica cards are great for the underground, trains and buses, saves the hassle of buying tickets all over the shop. Load it up and it's like an Oyster card that works.
- If you're travelling round, Hyperdia is an awesome app for getting train times. It can be configured to ONLY look for JR pass compatible trains, etc.
- The baggage going missing did us a favour and we learned from it - so easy to navigate without the heavy bags, we took an executive decision to get them sent between certain stops (we'd pack another couple of days worth of kit in day bags and get the heavy stuff sent two hotels ahead), worked a treat and made travelling much less hassle.

Best holiday I've ever had.


 
Posted : 11/04/2016 4:24 pm
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On the catering, most airlines upload local catering, so food from London - Beijing likely to be better than Beijing - London, whoever you fly with.

Window blinds - tell the crew to "do one". They are trying to keep the cabin dark & pax asleep, so they have to work less. There are absolutely not rules mandating you to keep it down.

Glad you enjoyed Japan!!


 
Posted : 11/04/2016 4:35 pm
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Here's some of the view you missed - flying from Tokyo Narita - Heathrow yesterday ๐Ÿ™‚

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Posted : 11/04/2016 4:42 pm
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Pondo....where did you visit and what hotels did you use?


 
Posted : 11/04/2016 4:45 pm
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We used BA from Manchester to Heathrow then Heathrow to Haneda on the way out a couple of months back. We did an internal from Narita (with Peach Airlines), and not much in it from central Tokyo - Narita Express is very slick (and looks like it's straight out of Mad Max). Either way, getting into / out of Tokyo is very straightforward.

Advantage of BA to Manchester is that there are several flights a day so you can get decent connections and not a massive issue if you're a bit delayed coming back.

Great scenery out of the window on the way back - as Dan said earlier!

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Posted : 11/04/2016 5:17 pm
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On the catering, most airlines upload local catering, so food from London - Beijing likely to be better than Beijing - London, whoever you fly with.

Aaa, makes perfect sense - next time we fill up at Beijing in advance (mind you, the lunch we had there was fairly minging...).
Window blinds - tell the crew to "do one". They are trying to keep the cabin dark & pax asleep, so they have to work less. There are absolutely not rules mandating you to keep it down.

Duly noted - only an hour or so after take off, just after dinner so missed Mongolia and Russia. Next time they can stick it. ๐Ÿ™‚

Glad you enjoyed Japan!!

Cheers, it was just fantastic. ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm sure the novelty must go off, the amount you go there, but even so, what a great place to end up when you clock off from work. ๐Ÿ™‚
Here's some of the view you missed - flying from Tokyo Narita - Heathrow yesterday

Nice, cheers! You get much bigger windows than us, but I guess that's pretty useful if you're driving. ๐Ÿ™‚

Pondo....where did you visit and what hotels did you use?

Are you sitting comfortably...? ๐Ÿ˜€
Landed Tokyo Haneda late Tuesday night (bags not made connection, had them sent to second hotel), straight to our hotel - Andon Ryokan, very snug but fantastic service and a decent Japanese take on a Western breakfast, has a spa (well, a very hot jacuzzi) and a rooftop terrace (didn't have time to check it out). Arrived at midnight and the guy waited up for us, made us tea and gave us cake - much appreciated.
Wednesday, Tokyo - did Ueno Park (fantastic blossom, very busy), went to Senso-Ji (an ok temple, very busy), Asahi Towers (beer on the 22nd floor, great view - first encounter with Japanese toilets), visited Shibuya, popped into Ueno to view by lantern light (awesome) and grab some street food.
Thursday - checked out of Andon Ryokan, got our JR passes validated, went to Hakone by Shinkansen, big bags had arrived so dropped little bags (Ichinoya Honkan) and went up to the lake, took a boat ride round. You can get a pass that'll take you all round the place but the ropeway was closed due to seismic activity, so we didn't bother with the pass. Back to the hotel - lovely, old-school, all sliding doors and tatami mats, had our own spa overlooking the river. Dinner and breakfast included, all fully Japanese.
Friday - checked out of hotel, big bags sent on a couple of hotels, Shinkansen to Hiroshima, checked out the peace park (A-Dome, children's memorial, the monument and a couple of museums, stayed at Urbain Hiroshima Central (and it is spelled Urbain), only "Western" hotel we stayed at, bit of a very clean version of Travelodge. Great showers (but everywhere seems to have great showers).
Saturday - checked out of hotel and headed to Miyajima which was just lovely, visited the floating gate (paddled out to it and had it to ourselves, we must be on a million holiday snaps ๐Ÿ™‚ ) and pottered about, found a lovely little cafe run by an old couple for lunch and he told us where to find good blossom (he was right). Shinkansen back to Kyoto that evening, stayed in a house called Casting Factory Y - big bags had arrived, house was fantastic, way too big for us two, old-school shoji sliding doors again, massive living room and bedroom, spare room had beautiful swords on the wall, our own little garden, great shower. Owner just fantastic, little English but could not be more helpful.
Sunday - pottered round Kyoto, did Fushimi (thousands of torii), Ginkaju and the Philosopher's Path, wandered to Gion then on to Teramachi and Nishiki.
Monday - another look round Nishiki then bus to Kinkaju-ji, then a tour round the Imperial Palace (have to apply in advance - no permit, no tour), then back to Nishiki and wandered west through the lovely little alleys by the river for a few beers.
Tuesday - House owner drove us to the train station, helped us send our big bags a couple of hotels on then gave us some mementos - lovely, lovely man. Shinkansen and other, local trains/buses/cable car to Koyosan, lovely mountaintop retreat, very many shrines and temples. Had a wander a round in the afternoon then checked into Kumagaiji - run by monks, proper old school shoji and beautiful gardens. Dinner served by monks in our own 10 tatami dining room (whilst the beds were put out by another monk in our 10 tatami living room), wandered up to Onunoin by night.
Wednesday - up early to join the monks for prayer then the fire ritual, breakfast served in our dining room, then shinkansen back to Andon Ryokan back in Tokyo (big bags already waiting), popped out to Shinjuku to check the madness, grabbed okonomyaki for tea then headed home. Tube still standing room only busy at midnight.
Thursday - up to catch the first tube at 5:05, have to queue to get on. This place is NEVER quiet. Arrived Heathrow 25 hours later - we'd booked parking at Park Inn for the duration and also a room for this night. Never have I been more glad that I don't have a long drive to make...

Fantastic place, loved everything - everyone should go at some point in their lives. ๐Ÿ˜€

Cheers for the pic Dashed - looks lovely, wish we'd seen more of that! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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