****less partners have knocked em up
Did you really post that????? 🙄
****less means unthinking and irresponsible... It's the perfect word for what I was describing.
What's it like, being you?
I hope Jim gets himself sorted out, I wouldn't necessarily give him money but I can understand the position he finds himself in.
What's it like, being you?
A whole lot better than being Jim! 😀
You think?
It's particularly easy for blokes to walk away citing that old chestnut "it just wasn't right for me" leaving a broken family in their wake.
I think you're seriously underestimating how difficult it is to walk away. I doubt most men do it in the manner you describe. I'd be happy to retract that if you can provide any actual evidence to back up what you're saying though.
Are you also seriously stating that it's better for children if their parents stay together under any circumstances? I can tell you from first hand experience that is utter horse shite. A childless man dictating his moral stance on the upbringing of children. Come back when you have kids
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Come back when you have kids
I'll see you in September 😉
And yes, I know dozens of men who have several kids by different mothers - they breeze in and out of their lives with reckless abandon, oblivious to the trail of destruction in their wake.
For every bloke that simply moves on to pastures greener, there's a broken family and more often than not, a mother who will struggle to find a new partner to take on another man's kids and will face a lifetime of loneliness. If you don't agree that this happens, I would suggest that it's you, not me that has a rather skewed view of the world!
I think somebody's been watching a bit too much Jeremy Kyle
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[quote=councilof10 ]a mother who will struggle to find a new partner to take on another man's kids and will face a lifetime of loneliness.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, and it takes two people to make a relationship...
actually that's probably way to cryptic for your level of emotional intelligence - there's more than one way to be lonely, and it doesn't matter how good your commitment is if you're the only one trying. Just because the father physically left doesn't mean he's the one who left the relationship.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, and it takes two people to make a relationship...
Of course, and I've never sat down with an excel spreadsheet and 'done the math', but off the top of my head, I can probably name 30 blokes within my circle of acquaintances who've walked away from their families compared to 1 woman.
If you don't agree that this happens, I would suggest that it's you, not me that has a rather skewed view of the world!
I'm not disagreeing that it does happen. I'm stating it's not as black and white as you make out. I would also wager that there are more marriages that break down for other reasons than the Jeremy Kyle factor. I think you're suffering with some confirmation bias. Do women never leave men in your world? Do single fathers not exist?
You still haven't answered my question regarding whether you think parents should stick together under any circumstances. In your opinion should they?
[quote=councilof10 ]off the top of my head, I can probably name 30 blokes within my circle of acquaintances who've walked away from their families compared to 1 woman.
I edited after you posted - you have no idea who left emotionally just who had their life physically disrupted.
I can probably name 30 blokes within my circle of acquaintances who've walked away from their families compared to 1 woman.
You must have a massive circle of very close friends if you know 30 of well enough to know the real reasons of a marriage breakdown. It's not something you discuss in detail with some bloke at work or someone who you occasionally have a pint with.
****less means unthinking and irresponsible... It's the perfect word for what I was describing.
It was more the "knocked up" part of the quote I was amazed by. 🙄
You still haven't answered my question regarding whether you think parents should stick together under any circumstances. In your opinion should they?
In a perfect world, yes. My own parents went through some very tough times, emotionally and financially. When one had 'issues' or 'demons', the other supported them and worked together to make it work. I'm pretty sure they hated the sight of each other at various points throughout their marriage, but they made a commitment - not just to each other - but to raising a family, and they saw it through.
Your "under any circumstances" is quite deliberately vague, but let me dissect it. If one party was unfaithful, then they've failed in their commitment. If one person has 'issues' or 'demons', then they both have a responsibility to address them, not just throw in the towel so they can move on and start again.
So, what other "under any circumstances" are we talking about?
[quote=councilof10 ]Your "under any circumstances" is quite deliberately vague, but let me dissect it. If one party was unfaithful, then they've failed in their commitment.
So in that case it's OK for the other party to walk? How about if the other party has failed in their commitment in other ways?
You still appear to be completely missing a circumstances which I'm sure are far from unique.
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Refer back to my last post Aracer, I made my thoughts perfectly clear there. Are you going to answer my question?
In a perfect world, yes.
I see the flaw in your arguement 😀
So, what other "under any circumstances" are we talking about?
Any circumstances. There can be a lot. I'm not being vague, just asking you to clarify your views. I'll make it simpler for you. When, in your opinion, is it acceptable to walk away from a marriage? You keep using the phrase 'in an ideal world' unfortunately that isn't the one we live in though is it?
Your whole outlook seems absurd to me. I'm the child of a seriously messed up marriage and I'm thankful my parents called it quits. The environment I lived in was one of abject misery and fear from the age of nine to thirteen Are you saying that environment is better for a child to live in?
What question? And no, you haven't made your thoughts totally clear on what you think is appropriate behaviour from one partner if there is no commitment from the other.
Why oh why did he have to bump it with the same bloody comment someone else had already made ?? 😥
What question?
Let me walk you through this... If you look at my previous post, it ended with a question... It's really not rocket surgery. 🙄
The only question there references your prior question which was aimed at me. Come on it's not brain science 😀
Well I answered that one, so I assumed there must be another one. Or do you really need it spelling out for you? I was kind of hoping you might put a little bit of thought in to help you understand.
Tell you what, let's put it to a vote.
Singledivorcedparentstrackworld - how many of you wish your parents had stayed together for your sake and how many are glad they divorced / separated?
My parents were nightmarish towards the end, it was a bloody relief when they split.
So who's other account is councilof10 then?
Binners?
It's really not rocket surgery.
Love it! 😆 (Hope it was intentional!)
If it's Taylforth it's his best troll ever!
So who's other account is councilof10 then?
Why not ask him about tattoos and find out?
[i]Singledivorcedparentstrackworld - how many of you wish your parents had stayed together for your sake [/i]
ME! But then so did they!
In a perfect world, yes. My own parents went through some very tough times, emotionally and financially. When one had 'issues' or 'demons', the other supported them and worked together to make it work. I'm pretty sure they hated the sight of each other at various points throughout their marriage, but they made a commitment - not just to each other - but to raising a family, and they saw it through.Your "under any circumstances" is quite deliberately vague, but let me dissect it. If one party was unfaithful, then they've failed in their commitment. If one person has 'issues' or 'demons', then they both have a responsibility to address them, not just throw in the towel so they can move on and start again.
[u][b]So, what other "under any circumstances" are we talking about?[/b][/u]
I'm trying to make this simple for the hard of thinking... 🙄
Yeah, but for the rest of us could you explain it more clearly?
I guess posting nonsense like that is easier than actually answering a question, eh aracer? 🙄
Well I answered the question - do you need it spelling out?
(though I'm wondering at what level of hard of thinking some comments go completely over people's heads)
Erm, nope... You responded to my question with another question. 🙄
Well I answered the question - do you need it spelling out?
You're going to need one of these to aid you in your quest aracer
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Why not ask him about tattoos and find out?
Yeah, we know. We've been keeping a close eye for a while.
<sigh> so if your partner has made it explicitly clear that they have no interest in having a relationship with you, or even in trying to restore the relationship, then should you stick around anyway?
Well seeing as this line of debate has stemmed from my comments about men who walk out on families, it's not really relevant is it.
Why on earth isn't it relevant? You really appear to have quite a poor understanding of this sort of thing, and no wonder you weren't getting the hints...
What? It's a valid question he's asking you. How is it not relevant?
