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Every journalist in London is heading to Euston to meet the train apparently...
Next week he's planning to shoot himself in th other foot, apparently.
Trains due in at 17:04. Do attend if you're in the area...
live tweeting from @RachTownsendITV is very entertaining...
Euston - we have a problem!
Euston - we have a problem!
I'm going to put that on my facebook and pretend it was my idea
well, this thread is top result on google for "George Osborne caught fare dodging" - but where does your info come from?
What a prize twerp! 🙂
Send for the Big Man!
well, this thread is top result on google for "George Osborne caught fare dodging"
Someone explain again about the google results thing (sigh)
According to the Digital Spy forum he was sitting in 1st class with a standard class ticket, he bought the upgrade on the train, which apparently you cant to during the week?
well, this thread is top result on google for "George Osborne caught fare dodging"
I got this
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/story/2012-10-19/osborne-train-dispute/
I was going to be sympathetic to him and say that anyone could get confused by UK rail pricing, but it sounds like he argued that he should be allowed to stay in first class, without paying for a first class upgrade, as "he couldn't possibly sit in standard". Also sent his aide to do his arguing for him.
Man of the people.
I wonder if the Plebs will get involved
Remember .......... "We're all in this together"
Why the **** would he have not bought a 1st class ticket in the first place, I wonder if he's been claiming 1st class travel on his expenses, while only buying 2nd class tickets.
IIRC I don't think they're allowed to claim for 1st class anymore, think it was one of the new rules they imposed after the expenses scandal in '09.
I could be talking utter rubbish though, I often do.
EDIT: Nope, I'm right this time:
[url= http://www.parliamentarystandards.org.uk/publicationsdocs/definitions.pdf ]Snouts in the trough - the rules[/url]
"The cost of first class travel is fully reimbursed only if it is at or below the cost of a standard open ticket by rail, or the equivalent"
Why the **** would he have not bought a 1st class ticket in the first place
apparently, he "couldn't pay"
middle of the month and all that probably eh?
he paid an extra 160 in the end, according to the bbc. the sad thing is he will probably claim it so we are paying for it anyway
jota180 - Member
"Why the **** would he have not bought a 1st class ticket in the first place"
apparently, he "couldn't pay"
middle of the month and all that probably eh?
😆
Mitchell has just resigned - I wonder if the timing will keep the Osborne story off the front pages tomorrow...
Or maybe I just need a tinfoil hat to keep Kaesae company 🙂
this isnt even a story.
Osborne wasnt involved in any converations his aide was a dick, and probably thought the £160 was a rip off.
Anyway the real story is how public borrowing is down which you have to no matter how grudgingly have to applaud Osborne for.
Sounds to me like his M.O. is to buy a 2nd class ticket, upgrade to first class and then claim the 2nd class fair back. IF only he showed such cunning in 'managing' the economy...
Mitchel falls on his sword to take the attention away!
Sancho, I think you've got your facts horribly wrong there
not according to the news
People buy upgrades to first on the train during the week all the time. Sadly its usually only if they get asked to show their ticket by the guard, which on London Midland isn't that often so fare dodging is rife. I'm unfortunate enough to commute daily and see it all the time.
The idiot Osbourne should have just bought a first class ticket anyway.
I seem to recall that Cherrie Blair also got caught fare dodging, maybe the political classes think its ok for them not to pay?
he got on the train and his aide or his security told the ticket inspector he was in first class on a standard ticket so this bolx story is a non event, there is far more happening in the world than this crap
Too many plebs in 2nd class for Sir Gideons liking?
It was one of those plebs that has f'cked up the Becky Godden case, so no sympathy for a jobs worth copper on the gate at no.10 here.
I just saw that report Sancho,
Mr Plod acting as a law unto himself again and not following due process, like failing to grant a suspect access to a lawyer for three hours, gets a scumbag off a murder charge.
Ok he'll get life for one of the murders but on a double murder conviction he'd have gone away permanently. Plod should be charged with perverting the course of justice.
Gweilo
That is a news story, and deeply upsetting for the family of the girl.
They are desperate for justice and that has been denied.
First class on virgin is only £23 if book in advance
Sancho - MemberIt was one of those plebs that has f'cked up the Becky Godden case, so no sympathy for a jobs worth copper on the gate at no.10 here.
Was it the same officer? Because if it was, you'd have a great point.
Sancho - why don't you start a thread about it? I thought this one was about the dishonest behavior of the chancellor.
This is wholly outrageous and I am outraged. 👿
The chancellor hasnt been dishonest or dont you read the news, or listen to the half wit reporter that tweeted this crap
But was he being dishonest if his aide told the guard he was in first and he bought an upgrade..... non story really
£700 million drop in borrowing compared to the same month last year and unemployment down by 50k is more of a story but not sensationalist enough.
£700 million drop in borrowing compared to the same month last year and unemployment down by 50k is more of a story but not sensationalist enough.
Amazing how Chancellors claim that recessions starting are to do with world markets and nothing to do with them, but the minute we finally start crawling out of one, they take all the credit?
? Just the bbc website I'm afraid.
If I buy a standard ticket, I get in a standard carriage. I don't get in a first class carriage and try to avoid paying the upgrade.
In my world this is dishonest. I also expect better behaviour from elected representatives.
Now in the big scheme of things - does this really matter that much? Perhaps not, but it points toward a particular pattern of behaviour from MP's that I find reprehensible. If you don't, fair enough.
Still overshooting their own targets on borrowing, and the unemployment drop is due to increases in part-time work. Unemployment falls but underemployment rises.
John Prescott just tweeted on it - like him or not, you have to admit that the hashtag #toffoncrimetoffonthecausesofcrime is genius 🙂
You rarely get people on here that as are 'on message' as Sancho - does he get the briefing notes?
On message??? He's on something!
The Guardian's take on the Godden case (alluded to on page 1)
http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/19/sian-ocallaghan-murder-detective?cat=uk&type=article
youd think cameron would have told his cabinet that they really dont need any more damaging headlines and maybe just check with an advisor to see if what your about to do is going to portray you as an out of touch arrogant plebhating toff
#toffoncrime is very funny but unfortunately it doesn't really make sense. It's a punch line looking for a setup!
#greattrainsnobbery on the other hand, that's a good one! (Not mine)
Houns - Member
First class on virgin is only £23 if book in advance
£23 for a 1st class virgin - i'll take one.
John Prescott just tweeted on it
Is that John "Two Jags" Prescott?
At least Osbourne was taking the train - and do we definitely know that he was trying to avoid the upgrade fee? All sounds too trivial to be true.
Seems like it wasn't the first time - from May this year:
https://twitter.com/larrylarrylal/status/207150475680821250
Labour have been quick to seize on the row, with shadow cabinet officer minister Michael Dugher saying: "Another day, another demonstration of how out of touch this government is.
This is closer to the real story and probably more damaging to politics.
There is some real shit happening out there to worry about rather than getting frothy about this.
Fair play - now appears he wasn't being dishonest in this case - I'm sure he'll be happy with my apology... 👿
I think that the only thing headed into the sidings and sliding into the buffers in this case is the career prospects of a certain junior ITV reporter with a twitter account 😳
what if he and his assistant were working - the pic on the BBC site suggested they were examining something together.
Might have been a bit difficult in standard class with one person in an aisle seat and the other in a window seat a few rows up, and with people standing up - assuming that it was the normal amount of overcrowding.
what if he and his assistant were working - the pic on the BBC site suggested they were examining something together.Might have been a bit difficult in standard class with one person in an aisle seat and the other in a window seat a few rows up, and with people standing up - assuming that it was the normal amount of overcrowding.
Lame. Like this government and its supporters.