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ha! OK, I get it now, all is forgiven.
Can we go for a ride now please...I dont wanna do this anymore...
Can we go for a ride now please...I dont wanna do this anymore.
Sure thing, I'll meet you by the you know what, you know when.
There really is not much more I can tell you (not even secrets).
Well, they wouldn't be secret if you did!
Yes - freemasonry is the second largest contributor to charities in the UK.
Is there any sort of independently audited proof for this statement?
I'm not disputing it, just slightly surprised, and a quick google of it just seems to bring up masonic sites repeating it rather than an independent source.
Is there any sort of independently audited proof for this statement?
I would appear that Freemasons give a lot of money to each other - much of the charitable donations are in fact for "the relief of poor and distressed brother masons".
Latest accounts lodged with the Charity Commission shows that nearly £65m was donated by masons for other masons who are in hardship, through four large masonic charities. No paying tax on that then.
[i]would appear that Freemasons give a lot of money to each other - much of the charitable donations are in fact for "the relief of poor and distressed brother masons".[/i]
Well they gave me **** all when I went bust. After all that work I did learning the 2nd degree tracing board as well!
Well they gave me **** all when I went bust.
Are you [i]sure[/i] you're a Freemason ?......maybe you joined the wrong secret organisation ?
I suppose things can get a bit confused when it's all hush-hush.
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It also does indeed serve as a gathering/social place for our OAP's - keeping them in conversation and giving them something to do - hardly anything wrong with that?
Nobody has ever invited me in but I regard free mansoning with the same deep suspicion as free riding. Its the funny clothes thing.
[i]Are you sure you're a Freemason ?......maybe you joined the wrong secret organisation ?[/i]
I am 100% sure I'm an EX freemason, as i purported in an earlier reply.
Try & keep up if you can Ernie.
In 2001 I was part of a TV crew that shot a documentary on freemasonary. My initial thoughts on it were that the rituals and the secrecy were just there to make the members feel important.
After 4 weeks filming, during the editing process, we suddenly get solicitors letters from the lodge we were dealing with (who had been very cooperative throughout), withdrawing all consent on the footage being broadcast and threatening legal action if we showed anyone any of the footage. The original agreement was that they would have a private viewing once the edit was complete and that they would have opportunity to raise any concerns at that point.
Either - They are a bunch of blanks who are so far up their own blanks that they thought behaving like blanks would make them look important. If this is the case then they can add wasting tens of thousands of pounds worth of a production companies money to their charitable activities.
or - They genuinely have something to hide.
Bottom line is, if its just an enjoyment of the exclusivity then why hide behind rumours and cryptic responses to questions. Most people who enjoy doing something exclusive or niche enjoy telling you all about it.
All probably incorrect or not researched enough but that's my experience.
p.s. I re-watched that footage so many times during the few weeks after the letter trying to work out what they were trying to hide.
niallmb - post the footage on the interweb for all to see?
I bet those Grand Wizards have something to hide. Perhaps they're all into this kind of thing:
Try & keep up if you can Ernie.
Well I'm trying my best honestly. So you're an EX Freemason, but are 100% sure it was the Freemasons that you joined ? After all they didn't give you any of the £65 million stash that they keep for "the relief of poor and distressed brother masons".
Just a quick question when you joined, did they ask you to repeat : [i]"On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to God and to the Queen, to help other people, and to keep the Scout Law"[/i] ?
Oh dear..
I imagine someone higher up the pecking order got work of the documentary and made them pull the plug.
I would bet my mortgage on them not hiding anything that isnt already available elsewhere.
Yes - I imagine a lot of the bravado is a power trip - silly old buggers.
Not too dissimilar to most policemen I meet...
[i]Just a quick question when you joined, did they ask you to repeat : "On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to God and to the Queen, to help other people, and to keep the Scout Law" ?[/i]
No, but why would they? That sounds more like what they'd ask if you were joining the scouts. Were you in the scouts?
I imagine someone higher up the pecking order got work of the documentary and made them pull the plug.
Maybe even the Great Architect themself...
Douglas Adams opinions on divinity and faith prove this. If you give all the secrets away, there's no need for faith in Freemasonry, ergo no need for a supreme being so they'd all disappear in a puff of logic!
i like that