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And of course, editing posts is not possible either.
It is, just not on rambling threads like this one. Again, discussed at length a page or two back. It's a known glitch and will be fixed.
Zokes, I take your points and I agree with many of them. But sitting and bitching about a free forum which you support neither with a subscription nor (IIRC) adverts just makes you come across as self-entitled. It does neither yourself nor the forum any favours.
Seriously, just chill. This too will pass.
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why cant I see my post to edit it?
Editing is dodgy on multipage posts.
is there no functionality to this forum at all?
Well yes there is but not everything is working yet.
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why cant I see my post to edit it?
Read my post literally the one before yours.
After V1.0 Hamster comment was posted taken back to page 25 to re-enter the seventh circle of hell. I was unable to edit that post at all to add this piece.
AHHHHHHHHH!
km +1
“and that’s a risk I might take.”
That’s fine, but take that attitude with enough customers and you won’t have a business at all. Probably moreso if you accuse them of lying: I probably know more about my own job than you do.
“I thought your status as a customer had been clearly defined previously.”
And as I have clearly stated many times, despite it being incorrect, that became a self-fulfilling prophecy wrt me purchasing an overseas subscription.
Aside from that, thanks for the tone of your second post Cougar. As with many people, when I’m poked I tend to bite back, though I accept that it’s not that useful. I’ll reign it in. For the record, having been a member for about 14 years, my initial comments came out of concern for the potential fate of a community which I value. There are many other fora that have died.
That’s fine, but take that attitude with enough customers and you won’t have a business at all.
You miss what risk is. You leave? Meh. The silent majority continue to visit/click ads? Good stuff.7
It'll get fixed, with or without you.
Aside from that, thanks for the tone of your second post Cougar.
I'm not sure whether to interpret that as sincere or sarcasm. I wasn't meaning to be a dick, if that's how it came across.
As with many people, when I’m poked I tend to bite back, though I accept that it’s not that useful. I’ll reign it in.
That's appreciated, and understandable. As you observe, the same is true of others.
For the record, having been a member for about 14 years, my initial comments came out of concern for the potential fate of a community which I value. There are many other fora that have died.
And again that's appreciated. So please, give a little more thought to how you phrase your criticism. I'm not singling you out, I got a bollocking off Mark a couple of days ago for what I thought was an amusing tongue-in-cheek little jibe on email which backfired badly. Measure twice, cut once.
So was a test upgrade made into a test environment first, or was it done straight onto the live site ?
Edit button not working for me on Chrome, goes to the empty coffee cup of doom page.
I suspect Mark is rather stressed as his business goes pretty pair shaped, but still no need to bite the folk that are busting their arses on here for free, defending the almost indefensible.
"I’m not sure whether to interpret that as sincere or sarcasm. I wasn’t meaning to be a dick, if that’s how it came across."
Sincere 🙂
@bearunnecessaries - leave it
If I could I ‘d edit the thread title to say - Yes we knew the edit button is broke.
But I can’t as the edit button is broke.
I got a bollocking off Mark a couple of days ago for what I thought was an amusing tongue-in-cheek little jibe on email which backfired badly.
You took a bollocking of someone who doesn't even pay you for the work you do here?
**** that.
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Edit: The 😆 was at Drac's comment
I would edit my post to make that clearer, but y'know...
Sorry - didn't see the update on the edit button, as for some reason, the thread ended halfway through page 26 for me until just now. So your efforts would have been futile!
Sincere 🙂
Then thank you.
You took a bollocking of someone who doesn’t even pay you for the work you do here?
"Bollocking" is probably an exaggeration. "Chastised" maybe. And to be fair he was right, I was out of order.
There appears to be no spam filter on the forum. Or the two principal spam filters are currently getting some shut-eye...
Oh, and after waiting to see if my post posts successfully, I find that it re-loads automatically to a page a few pages back.
Is there a way to forum search?
can't go back to threads i've replied in so how do I go back to a topic to monitor follow ups without trawling through page by page to find it?
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 17.600000381469727px; font-style: italic; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I got a bollocking off Mark a couple of days ago for what I thought was an amusing tongue-in-cheek little jibe on email which backfired badly.</span>
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Just to check - you don't get paid for being a mod, right? And you're the one at the coal face, taking the flak for this and other forum-related issues? And the owner isn't here, doing the same? And you're receiving bollockings/chastisement from him for something you've said was 'tongue in cheek'? And you're role as a mod is to assess such things on a daily basis? But you're not paid, and receiving bollockings from the owner, who by the very definition of others on here on several threads is 'chippy' and/or 'sarcastic' towards forum users?
Seems legit. 😶
I line-manage a lot of people. I don't do it like that. I rarely agree with all of the mod-related decision making on here, but I have a grudging respect for Drac and Cougar for their attempts at getting it right. Sounds like a bit of a one-sided relationship to me.
It’s really not like that at all Bullheart, Mark on a very rare occasion might just say “Sorry guys but can we do it like that” or “Please refrain from doing that”. In all honesty I’d struggle to recall when he last felt the need to do so but it would have been in an informative way not a bollocking or a chastising. I know nothing of Cougar’s episode as Mark would have contacted him direct, rightly so. Cheers for your reluctant respect but rest assured if I ever felt the modding was too much or Mark did act heavy I’d move on.
I dunno, Drac. It’s well documented how hard it can be to move on from an abusive relationship.
Blink twice if you need help.
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On an iPad.
If I press edit ,it says page not found.
Don't feel victimised zippy it's the same for all of us. It's one of the new features. Like the classifieds no longer being sticky so you can bump it back to top if you so desired.
A mod will be along to explain the edit thing wasposted a few pages back.
Edit is broke sorry, like other bugs though it’s not a feature.
Not moaning just pointing out.
Somehow I quoted myself without knowing it!
Look at it, it’s perfect no funny arrows or geeky blah blah.
I am a computer genius.
Just a thought but would a sticky with a single post (or at least only editable by mods) with an on-going list of known bugs be a good idea just to stop the same "quoting doesn't work" or "editing isn't working" posts from appearing several times in 50% of threads? No guarantee it'd get read mind...
Page width on my Android/Chrome phone seems to have been fixed. There are now two format buttons on the second row of that toolbar (it was previously one) and the text no longer scrolls left, meaning that the Submit button also stays fully on the screen.
A drop in traffic is what will spur any additional resource/panic, not us lot
Given how well the site does in google searches for a huge variety of topics, that traffic drop might be slow in coming, even if new posts tail off. But agreed.
FWLIW, it's pretty messy - both the upgrade and the way it's been handled.
Just a thought but would a sticky with a single post (or at least only editable by mods) with an on-going list of known bugs be a good idea just to stop the same “quoting doesn’t work” or “editing isn’t working” posts from appearing several times in 50% of threads? No guarantee it’d get read mind…
Get back to Github with that organised witchcraft!
Just to confirm - despite the page width having been resolved (see my previous post) the dialogue box for inserting images is still too wide and the one for inserting links is still looping.
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And the text formatting buttons are still doing that strange repetition thing when the spacebar is pressed
The text on the Submit button is now going to a shade of grey when pressed too. Hopefully, this will reduce the double/triple posting problem - though it would be good/correct to have some sort of progress bar too.
“the dialogue box for inserting images is still too wide and the one for inserting links is still looping.”
Quit whining, at least you have a dialogue box😂
I give up.
I copied the URL from the desktop site, not the mobile one.
And also stripped the 's' out of https
Just testing something else
Hmm. Looks like I need to press Submit twice. The first attempt merely moves the reply box to the top of the screen. The second press makes the text go grey.
Can I just check before I spend any more effort on it that the links on your forum replies page aren't working even for those who have the buttons? eg this page for me https://singletrackworld.com/members/aracer/forums/replies (though if it worked then it should work for anybody) - supposedly the "Posted X ago" links bottom left should take you to the thread if it was working.
Though I think I might just fix the edit thing (can easily do that client side - @bearnecessities can even add a little more functionality than the site provides when it works 😉 ) and make a beta release of the Chrome extension for those interested.
edit: belay the need to fix my post - I was being dim, I've done it myself
Can I just check before I spend any more effort on it that the links on your forum replies page aren’t working even for those who have the buttons?
That's true for me - I have buttons but those links do not work.
I can’t get to the thread I replied to. All I see is a list of my replies.You see the bit that says posted x mins/hours ago? Click that.
Not working for me, that's a link to an anchor reference in the same page
Nope stopped working me soon after I mentioned there was a way of jumping to threads from your response. 😂
[b]scotroutes[/b] :
[size=12]That’s true for me – I have buttons but those links do not work.[/size]
Cheers that's the info I was after - I'll have another look at it
OK last page seems to be fixed - for now 😉
Testing editing...
woo, I have an edit link which works!
Ah yes my last post wouldn't edit do yet
Paging is fixed - so does edit work?
No
Only for me, sorry - have fixed it in the Chrome extension
testing - yep this works
OK, clicking on the freshness link now takes me to the latest post (in this thread at least)
Bug: Copy and past puts in the formatting codes. I started a thread using text copied from a text editor and when displayed it was wrapped in HTML formatting codes. If the following paragraph also has these then it's still a bug.
Some random text out of a text editor (not a word processor)
Right, so this is a beta but it's got about as much testing as the STW forum. For anybody using the existing STW extension, or anybody using Chrome on Windows (or Mac?)
unzip the file, go to chrome://extensions/ select developer mode, click on "Load unpacked extension..." select the directory you unzipped it to.
You should now have an icon top right of the browser window, right click and select options, there you can enable stuff. I've fixed blocking users and quoting. I've also added a fix for the broken edit button, that should work by default without you having to select anything.
testing:
[b]aracer[/b] :
[size=12]Right, so this is a beta but it’s got about as much testing as the STW forum. For anybody using the existing STW extension, or anybody using Chrome on Windows (or Mac?)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BUUJWsaaF6DIma–fe1QcH1eagFwON2m
unzip the file, go to chrome://extensions/ select developer mode, click on “Load unpacked extension…” select the directory you unzipped it to.
You should now have an icon top right of the browser window, right click and select options, there you can enable stuff. I’ve fixed blocking users and quoting. I’ve also added a fix for the broken edit button, that should work by default without you having to select anything.[/size]
will have a go at the links to threads you've posted on later - proper (supposedly paid) work to do...
Still can't paste in android if there is no txt already in the reply box.
I can copy but the usual press and hold to get the paste menu fails.
I have also had some strange editing problems in android where I try to delete a word mid mid senstance and retype but it keeps filling in the original word. This is not consistent behaviour thought so unfortunately I can't give a proper detailed report.
Just getting a 404 when I try to download that, aracer. (Chrome on OSX)
Actually just in case anybody knows how to run client side scripts on other platforms (or for the devs!) here is the javascript (actually mostly jquery) to make the edit button work, it's really simple:
function fixEditLinks() {
$('.bbp-reply-edit-link').each(function() {
$(this).attr('href', 'http://singletrackworld.com/forum/reply/' +
$(this).parent().prev().attr('href').substr(6) + '/edit/');
});
}
I cannot access the forum using Chrome on Mac (latest version). Too many redirects, it says.
Hmm, try:
edit: gah it's the stupid STW forum mangling my links, fixed using goo.gl
Did you test this at all?
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[b]Drac[/b] :
[size=12]Did you test this at all?
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Well it worked until I let the STW forum near it - still have link mangling problems (yes I did test the link I pasted in incognito window!)
Fixed in the post above (and now in the original post 😉 )
OK, here goes...
[b]aracer[/b] :
[size=12]Drac :
Did you test this at all?Well it worked until I let the STW forum near it – still have link mangling problems (yes I did test the link I pasted in incognito window!)
Fixed in the post above (and now in the original post )[/size]
\o/
Excellent - that will make the EU thread almost readable once more
Hmm, that's interesting zokes - did you add extra quote tags?
[b]aracer[/b] :
[size=12]Drac :
Did you test this at all?
Well it worked until I let the STW forum near it – still have link mangling problems (yes I did test the link I pasted in incognito window!)
Fixed in the post above (and now in the original post )[/size]
wow - no idea what's happening there
[b]zokes[/b] :
[size=12]Excellent – that will make the EU thread almost readable once more[/size]
It's only a browser extension, it doesn't work miracles!
(and sadly it won't make any difference to quotes other people have posted - it occurs to me I probably could fix them client side though...)
Sorry, most of this is going over my head. I'm sure it's far from easy to get this all sorted.
But....... forums not not exactly a recents or niche thing there must be tens or even hundreds of thousands of them. Surely there was an off the shelf product that would have got them 95% there without all this faffing?
Secondly..... a forum with only 2 sub catagories and no ability to easily find threads you had previously contributed to is no use to anyone. Whilst I appreciate this is still a work in progress I can't believe this was not a feature that was live from the outset if the place was to remain live whilst the work was done.
Thirdly...would be intrguided as to what this is costing STW in terms of income stream. By what percentage has the traffic reduced?
I've resolved to stay away for a month to save myself from frustration. I am irrationally annoyed by it. Deleted from my bookmarks to revent idle habit browsing and I'll see you in March.
