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Yes Lando! Beat him on true pace.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 12:03 am
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That was fun! Dropping Max by 7 seconds was awesome


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 12:15 am
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Just seen the yt highlights, very dusty here.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 1:03 am
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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/why-donald-trump-at-f1-miami-gp-mclaren/

Lucky charm for Lando? 😄


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 3:53 am
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The smell of trump was so overpowering Lando had to drive that fast for the wind to clear it


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 8:37 am
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I think it was the allure of all that orange that drew him in to the McLaren garage.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 9:28 am
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Well done Lando!


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 11:07 am
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Nice race. Refreshing to see Max genuinely struggling in that car.

I’m going to make a wild prediction, too, based almost entirely on how relaxed Hamilton has looked for the past week or so: I’ll put a couple of quid on Ferrari making a Newey announcement at Imola. There, I’ve said it.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 11:57 am
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Great result! See, Newey quits and the team falls apart.

Anyone else struggle with red text on a black background for the Ferrari whinge radio? It's known to be one of the least accessible colour combinations for text, so I'm surprised they went with it.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 11:59 am
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[i]Anyone else struggle with red text on a black background for the Ferrari whinge radio?[/i] - Glad you mentioned this, I thought it was my eyes. I gnored it the first time but then they were having whole conversations I couldn't properly hear or read.


 
Posted : 06/05/2024 11:38 pm
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Yeah, it's a good idea to have conversations in team colours , less impressive in the actual real life though. I thought it was just my teeny telly that made it harder.


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 10:27 am
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Yeah, it’s a good idea to have conversations in team colours , less impressive in the actual real life though. I thought it was just my teeny telly that made it harder.

There are a few naff graphics at the moment.  My personal bugbear is the "BATTLE FOR 5th" that they sometimes show.  Fine, highlight the two drivers names, but why hide the timing & tyres at exactly the most critical time?


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 11:29 am
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the worse graphic is the little floaty box super-imposed above the cars as they are racing side-by-side

Painfully dreadful!


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 1:14 pm
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the worse graphic is the little floaty box super-imposed above the cars

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Posted : 07/05/2024 1:20 pm
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the worse graphic is the little floaty box super-imposed above the cars as they are racing side-by-side

My wife watches maybe 1 in 10 races, she really likes it. I reckon it must be pretty annoying if you're racing to have a wee floaty sign with your initials on it hovering over your car. Very distracting


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 1:29 pm
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While we are at it, my own personal bugbear is when they switch to the driver’s POV as an overtake is happening. You can’t see what is going on. Either the car in front disappears from view or you sit there looking at an empty track and suddenly the nose of the car behind appears. It gives you know idea of what is actually taking place.


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 3:23 pm
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The line they draw when in drivers-eye view, with a measure of the distance to the car ahead, is a smidgen more annoying than the driver name that floats above the car. But it doesn't appear often.

Maybe they'll bring in ghost car graphics, so they can show far ahead/behind they are. Then how many lives they've got left. 😀


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 6:46 pm
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I wish they’d show overall times behind the leader for everyone, would save me having to add several interval times together.


 
Posted : 07/05/2024 11:34 pm
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Let's be honest, it looks shite, but the current cars look pretty shite anyway so we may as well go all in.


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 11:37 am
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*Checks calendar *^

No, it's not April 1st


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 11:45 am
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It does look *, but if it's a choice between a wet race with cars that look * or no race, I'll take the cars that look ****.


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 11:53 am
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Hmm they appear to have picked to wrong day to test those.


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 12:06 pm
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It does look *, but if it’s a choice between a wet race with cars that look * or no race, I’ll take the cars that look ****

Exactly

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Hmm they appear to have picked to wrong day to test those.

I believe they're also re-evaluating Bernie's sprinker idea 😉


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 12:15 pm
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Not gonna claim to be an expert on such matters, but it doesn't look like they work brilliantly


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 12:21 pm
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There goes a 2 second pit stop when the track dries out!


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 2:03 pm
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That looks quite a lot less spray though

spray

I know its hard to compare, we don't know track conditions or speed, but I think the idea is just to reduce the amount of spray, not to try to eliminate it altogether


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 3:04 pm
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I would imagine just the car moving over the surface will create a certain amount of spray regardless of what comes off the wheels.

How the hell do they chance wheels?

[Ans: slowly]


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 3:08 pm
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 I think the idea is just to reduce the amount of spray, not to try to eliminate it altogether

It's not possible to eliminate it, some of it comes from the diffuser, but they don't know how much. They are testing different packages to try to understand the problem better. It may prove to be impossible to reduce it enough to race in really wet conditions.


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 3:10 pm
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There are shots online showing the mudguards do push the front wheel spray outboard quite nicely compared to running without. However the rear axle is still kicking up a massive rooster tail from the diffuser etc.

edit - pic, front car only has guards


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 3:16 pm
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The bolt that holds the wheel on (green) looks to go through the 'blue' plate which probably comes off when the wheel comes off then the wheel back on 'blue' plate then bolt again. 'Red' cover I assume stays on all the time....

Capture


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 3:18 pm
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In the previous pic, with the cars viewed from the front, the rooster tail of the front one does look like it may be thinner/less dense than the rear one without guards.

The front one definitely has lower/wider spray off the front tyres though, but track surface, wetness and braking force could all influence the spray patterns between ront and rear cars.


 
Posted : 09/05/2024 4:21 pm
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Albon sticking with Williams

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/albon-signs-new-multi-year-f1-contract-with-williams/10611069/


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 11:20 am
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Is anyone else thinking that the F1 press are over-hyping McLaren's B Spec car and its going to be business as usual this weekend?


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 11:23 am
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That's good news as a Williams fan, would have liked to see what he could do in the other Mercedes seat though.


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 11:26 am
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Is anyone else thinking that the F1 press are over-hyping McLaren’s B Spec car and its going to be business as usual this weekend?

Yeah I had the same feeling mate, but it's hard to say with the floor damage on Verstappen's car last race. Fingers crossed it's legit though!


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 11:31 am
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Usually the case though as the regs stabilise the field closes up as they all work out how to get the most out of them. This year is closer than last, next year should be closer than this and the year after that should be, oh bugger.


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 11:34 am
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I think McLaren and Ferrari are getting close enough to Red Bull that things like track conditions and  tyre warmup can make the difference. If Red Bull don't have a perfect weekend, the other teams can beat them on pace and Perez can't be guaranteed to be there to put pressure on them.


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 12:00 pm
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Merc will have the second half of their update this weekend too...

...so that will bring them 0.0000001 seconds closer to the pointy end! 🙂


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 12:01 pm
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I'm a big fan of Albon, I hope that him extending with Williams is a vote of confidence in the team's trajectory.  It's a shame that he's not in the second Mercedes though.

Is anyone else thinking that the F1 press are over-hyping McLaren’s B Spec car and its going to be business as usual this weekend?

Yeah, this.  IIRC Red Bull & Ferrari have significant updates due to debut at Imola.


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 12:50 pm
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Spy pictures of the new F1 wet-weather tyre revealed

new F1 tyre


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 1:13 pm
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Is anyone else thinking that the F1 press are over-hyping McLaren’s B Spec car and its going to be business as usual this weekend?

It's definitely what normally happens, but it would be nice to be surprised for a change. More than 2 teams in serious contention for the championships would be an incredibly exciting prospect for next year, and the first time it's happened for over ten years


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 1:54 pm
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It was either 2010 or 2012, I can't remember which, but we had something like 7 different winners over the first 7 races, it's hard to imagine that ever happened now!


 
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2012:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Formula_One_World_Championship


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 1:58 pm
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Albon sticking with Williams

WTF?!?

As a driver of his level, why would you rule yourself out of any opportunity of driving for a race winning team for the next 3 years?

If anyone can turn Williams around its Vowles, but its going to take several years to do so so it feels like hes writing his career off?

Unless hes been told that all the other opportunities have been closed off, but what happens the day that either Lewis/Alonso retire. Either hes stuck at Williams or that 'vote of confidence' is undermined by exit clauses.


 
Posted : 15/05/2024 2:41 pm
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As a driver of his level, why would you rule yourself out of any opportunity of driving for a race winning team for the next 3 years?

Because every other option is blocked off.

Merc - full

Ferrari - full

Red Bull - full

Aston - full

And after those it's just shuffling up and down the mid-pack teams.

And this is also a driver who not that long ago didn't look like he'd have an F1 career at all.


 
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